Have confidence. so much bull**** advice lol

[BeDJ]

From Plate Theory II



A good example of applied confidence is Amused Mastery Even ****y & funny find a root in confidence derived from past experiences and the capacity to generate options. A guy with a lot of money has confidence because he knows what options that money can generate. Same with having a good physique; a good body consistently generates sexual options for a man which provides him with confidence.

However, even having an intellectual advantage, a status advantage, a social proof advantage can generate confidence in a contextually applicable way. If you know something (i.e. Game) your target woman is unaware of, you have the advantage of creating options with her.

It's a positive feedback loop – options create confidence, confidence creates more options. Getting into that loop is the trick.

I absolutely agree that the ability to generate options leads to the confidence to generate more options. Though, this is analogous to the chicken or the egg. It takes money to make money and sex does attract more sex. It's essential for young men to realize their potential SMV, the variation of looks, status, assets and game. As someone in his mid 20's who isn't aesthetically blessed and establishing footing towards his peak SMV, game and potentially status comprises my current attributes. Understanding game also translates to understanding the social dynamics between genders. Game provides most of the social status for seduction, though I should say the manipulation thereof. For young men who don't have the SMV combo yet, it's most important to be socially confident in order to generate options.

You're going to get your ass beat many times before being comfortable in the ring.

 

[SteR]

There are some people who make you feel so comfortable, they make you feel like you have known them and been friends with them for years, almost immediately after just meeting them. Then they turn around and do the same with the next person.

When I was a young man trying to improve my social skills, these were the people that I looked up to and tried to emulate, tried to figure out what their secret was. I can't say I ever really got there, but I improved. Now days, I realize I don't want to be friends with that many people anyway, I have my own life to live, and I value my solitude. But at the time I was heavily into socializing, which of course leads to more women.

It's interesting you mention this as my mother is one of these people. I grew up as a very shy/insecure kid and I always marveled at how my other was able to warm anyone and everyone up to her. People were constantly praising her and it's certainly been something I've paid attention to ever since I was a child - it's quite amazing to watch.

 

[Boilermaker]

However, even having an intellectual advantage, a status advantage, a social proof advantage can generate confidence in a contextually applicable way. If you know something (i.e. Game) your target woman is unaware of, you have the advantage of creating options with her.

It's a positive feedback loop – options create confidence, confidence creates more options. Getting into that loop is the trick.

Not denying the first part ( that options create confidence) but implying that confidence can "mainly" be generated through options doesn't sound right.

Probably for a teenager, but not for the average resident of the MM who has his life set about. Even at my age, I don't feel that I need the affection of

women to feel confident. I remember, for instance, simply biting the red pill in the beginning gave me an enormous confidence boost. Couldn't care less if

I have options or not , at this very point. Because I know I can always generate them.


As for BB's criticism of his wife, it's unwarranted. She gave what she thought would be most helpful to Matt without offending him, for offending Matt would have undermined her cause (which was to help him) in the first place.

I have left MM for a couple of months and here is a 4-page discussion on "confidence" ..

Perhaps the forum is over-populated by people who don't need the forum !

 

[Zunder]

“The better you get, the less you run around showing off as a muscle guy. You know, you wear regular shirts-not always trying to show off what you have. You talk less about it. It's like you have a little BMW - you want to race the hell out of this car, because you know it's just going 110. But if you see guys driving a ferrari or a lamborghini, they slide around at 60 on the freeway because they know if they press on that accelerator they are going to go 170. These things are the same in every field.”


― Arnold Schwarzenegger

 

[zekko]

Couldn't care less if I have options or not , at this very point. Because I know I can always generate them.

Knowing you can generate options is just as good as having them, as far as confidence goes, or damn near.

 

[backbreaker]

As for BB's criticism of his wife, it's unwarranted. She gave what she thought would be most helpful to Matt without offending him, for offending Matt would have undermined her cause (which was to help him) in the first place.

That's the thing. I'm not criticizing my wife. I'm pointing out that she literally, does not know what she is talking about. She means well. She cares and wants matt to succeed. She wants the guy to be happy. She's not sabotaging him or anything to get a one up.


My point is not even so much about confidence as much as it is in general that women, don't know how to game women even when they mean well.


AGain, I never stated that confidence is not imoprtant. I've been quite clear I believe in saying that it's quite important. I'ms aying that 1. women dont' really care about how confident you are on it's own merits and 2. even if i were confident, women would not be able to notice it.. if i weren't hot lol. I've been quite confident in my life and overweight / out of style because I was working on my business and didn't get a whiff from women. I"ve been shy and good looking and had women tell me that theyt hink i'm "confident"


TL;DR

1. to a woman confidence= be hot
2. women dont' know what the hell they are talking about in general

If I have a friend that is shooting heroin and I actively encourage him to stop and make an effort to help him ‘clean up’, society calls me a hero or a savior. When I encourage my friend to quit smoking before she gets cancer, I’m a concerned good-friend helping my friend with a health risk behavior. But when I tell a friend he needs to change his approach to women and this is a reason for his unhappiness and he needs to change his outlook on, and approach with women, look better and feel better, then I’m a ‘shallow’ prick and insensitive to his ‘problem’. Worse still is even attempting to offer constructive criticism, in as positive a light possible, that a person can improve themselves by changing their outlook and modifying their behavior.

I never saw this before. This is really good.

 

[Boilermaker]

That's the thing. I'm not criticizing my wife. I'm pointing out that she literally, does not know what she is talking about. She means well. She cares and wants matt to succeed. She wants the guy to be happy. She's not sabotaging him or anything to get a one up.


My point is not even so much about confidence as much as it is in general that women, don't know how to game women even when they mean well.


AGain, I never stated that confidence is not imoprtant. I've been quite clear I believe in saying that it's quite important. I'ms aying that 1. women dont' really care about how confident you are on it's own merits and 2. even if i were confident, women would not be able to notice it.. if i weren't hot lol. I've been quite confident in my life and overweight / out of style because I was working on my business and didn't get a whiff from women. I"ve been shy and good looking and had women tell me that theyt hink i'm "confident"


TL;DR

1. to a woman confidence= be hot
2. women dont' know what the hell they are talking about in general

Now this makes sense, but originally it didn't come across like this. I agree with this, even WELL-MEANING women don't know what they are talking about ...

I never saw this before. This is really good.

This is true but easier said than done. Being completely "honest" about everything will quickly turn one into an ******* in real life ... Plus, people have a right to wallow in their misery, we can't control everything around us.

My philosophy is to shut the fvck up UNLESS I am specifically consulted for advice.

All the best ,

 

[Jitterbug]

The only relevant confidence here is the confidence in getting pvssy (and that comes from regular practice). Other types of confidence matter very little.