have a look at this if you DARE oh & feel free to comment too

[Alle_Gory]

Other than that, what is illogical about my recent posts? I think it's just plain *common sense* not to give freely to people you don't know very well. Otherwise the regret is yours to own.

Why can't I meet a nice girl like you? Goddamn it. I hate society.

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

Why can't I meet a nice girl like you? Goddamn it. I hate society.

Wow... I don't know what to say. I thought I was gonna get flamed some more! :box: Thanks!

edit, wait are you being sarcastic? LOL :nervous:

 

[Alle_Gory]

Wow... I don't know what to say. I thought I was gonna get flamed some more! :box: Thanks!

edit, wait are you being sarcastic? LOL :nervous:

Nope. Not at all. < That's not sarcastic.


I like your attitude. Its very BS free, and you actually think about things... far more than most people consider. < That's also not sarcastic.

 

[user43770]

I never use men for anything. I guess I can see what the OP is trying to bring up, and from a woman's point of view, it's not something I easily relate to, because I do get hit on all the time, I get lots of unwanted attention, (so I downplay my looks whenever I'm in public). I could easily use all of these men for what they can offer me, but at the end of the day I wouldn't feel very good about myself if I took advantage of them. It took awhile for me to realize that not every woman thinks like that.

I think you're full of sh1t.

 

[YAboi]

The same can be said for men. They start out attentive, loving, caring and over time that attention drops and fades into the abyss, as does the sex drive it helped fuel.

sometimes that attention is spent on trying to create a better life for the man and his spouse. E.g in this singer/songwriters' (The Dream) case, his ex wife nivea who cheated on him with Lil Wayne is now pregnant with the rappers' baby .

Oh and I should mention that Lil Wayne is also expecting a baby from black model Lauren london . Oh and he has a new kid with an unknown asian women as well.

The situation in his (The Dream) own words;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dMTsqMJUq4&feature=PlayList&p=4E334A17A51FE4ED&index=5&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL"]


sometimes money isn't enough , but then again other times love ain't enough either.



On an unrelated note , The Simpsons is probably the best animated TV series ever . As for The Wire, thats just glorious to watch , Im on season 3 of that (following it on national TV)

 

[omkara]

I have never seen plaything say anything remotely insightful. I guess if you're a woman the bar is set so much lower. If you can express your thoughts in words, then it's considered amazing.

Sincerely,
Jaded AFC

 

[YAboi]

Addressing plaything's last comment for the 3rd time; women should really be emotionally independent and not rely on a guy to give them good feelings.I think the kind of women that we dudes find valuable are the ones that can think for themselves and don't share their brains with about six of their friends.


I've gone clubbing alot and have seen some pretty messed up shlt that makes you wanna call 911 and report a breakout of female convicts from the 'prison of logic-defaulters'.

Point in case , girl comes to dance with boy she thinks is cool but brings her friend with her. Boy also has a wingman with him and starts dancing with girl but girl's friend is unwilling to dance with wingman so she and her friend leave. Like , errr hello how dumb is that, like think for yourself and stay and dance with the person your interested in.

Point 2 : hot girl is dressed like slut with miniskirt dress that shows cleavage. Girl is walking around scowling at men and crossing arms to cover chest. Err hello you shouldn't have dressed this way if you didn't wanna get hit on,funny thing is no one was leering at her or hitting on her.


Oh and another funny thing i've learnt about clubs is that girls in jeans are more likely to want to get laid. The ones dressed sexily in miniskirts usually just do that for whatever reason. Certainly not so that they can get shagged that night........

 

[Alle_Gory]

I have never seen plaything say anything remotely insightful. I guess if you're a woman the bar is set so much lower. If you can express your thoughts in words, then it's considered amazing.

Sincerely,
Jaded AFC

Clearly you've got something to say that disagrees with plaything. Can't even speak your thoughts. No wonder you sign off with 'AFC'. Its more than an inability to deal with women.

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

women should really be emotionally independent and not rely on a guy to give them good feelings.

Could not agree with you more. To rely on a man for this will surely only bring about disappointment... through no fault of his own. Your happiness must come from within and shouldn't be contingent on others' opinions or material things.

That being said, what I meant by a man's lack of attention/affection will cause a lack of a sex drive in his partner is not about validation, it's about the woman feeling she is cared for and invested in. Women who feel invested in are more likely to keep investing themselves within a relationship. That's my personal experience, anyways.

I have never seen plaything say anything remotely insightful. I guess if you're a woman the bar is set so much lower. If you can express your thoughts in words, then it's considered amazing.

Sincerely,
Jaded AFC

It's a good thing I don't need others for validation.

For all those who don't like what I have to say, I see no one stepping up and telling me why what I say isn't insightful or full of sh!t. To me, that's full of sh!t.

 

[user43770]

For all those who don't like what I have to say, I see no one stepping up and telling me why what I say isn't insightful or full of sh!t. To me, that's full of sh!t.

First of all, God, I hate magenta. Second, I think you're full of sh1t because you're on an all male forum begging for attention. The author of this article goes over the subject extensively: women lie, not only to men, but to themselves. I've learned to judge a woman by her actions, not her words. So how am I to judge you, strange female?

 

[46and2aheadofme]

And here comes my 2 cents (or maybe 10):

While I agree that men are the enablers of the whor phenomenon, I think a major theme of the book that a lot of us have overlooked is that within this thousand year old transaction, a man is looking to satisfy a baser need that he can't really control whereas a woman is looking to satisfy fantasy, greed, and other things that fall under wants.

A woman taking part in this transaction is looking to satisfy a less baser need. In fact they are looking to satisfy a luxury dreamed up in their days of playing with little dolls sitting inside of giant toy mansions.

Now, one could make the argument that the women's gain in the transaction is a natural need also (that of food, shelter, and protection). This argument would have held water if we were still living in 500-2,000 B.C. However, now feminism as well as a long list of laws favoring women over men in society has enabled them to take care of things like food, shelter, and protection for themselves. Their list of excuses for leeching off of men are running thin as time goes on.

The average modernized western woman is looking to satisfy greed, and justify this by boiling down sexual advances by man as "shallow", and other words that signify a compromise of conscience.

And if you think sex is not a human need, you are most likely brainwashed by your own beliefs and prejudices or simply ignorant.

Edit: I change my mind. Sex is not a need in the general sense (i.e. things required for survival). It is a need for the survival of our species, rather than that of individuals. Also, there are many who lead healthy lives without sex: people who are celibate or A-sexual. However it is needed to sustain a healthy relationship and psychological health. I don't think that anyone would agree that the same is true for money.

Society tries to tell us that we are different from other species. But we are just animals helplessly looking to carry on the legacy of nature and ensure our gene pool lives on. We just achieve it in an over-complicated way.

Maybe women use sex as a tool because they get the lesser part of the deal (i.e. possible pregnancy which in older times frequently led to death). I won't judge them for that, because I will never know what that's like. Men don't suffer nearly as much risk by engaging in sexual activity.

But just as I will never know what it's like to be pregnant, I don't think a woman will ever know what it's like to go through a day with a massive boner after seeing a mannequin in lingerie or a billboard advertising a strip club.

When it comes down to it, no matter what justifications the modern day woman will use for selling their bodies, they are still agents of greed. Men are simply trying to get their d1cks wet, because their hormones and psychic processes originating from instinct serve as a constant reminder of our most simplified reason for existence.

 

[jonwon]

Serioulsy that is some real serious bitter **** right there.

Yeh though it maybe true but the % of woman like that are pritty low, its not 80% or some of that crap, dam most girls are dating guys who sit at home playing X-Box and scratching their nuts all day.

The best thing about that link is this

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11171877/ebook-seduction-wayne-ross-the-complete-guide-to-handling-women (just skip the last section on friendship crap and romantic dribble, jesus it was going so well till I got to that point).

Skip over that jaded s**t and read that instead.

The writer has gone behond looking at woman and peeling away the layers to complete and utter bitterness - Yes some woman fit that mould, but the fact is woman do resonante with guys who have their **** together, **** I was dating good looking woman with great jobs when I was living at my mums house with no car or a job -

Serioulsy take this shi* with a pinch of salt, its good to know what woman to avoid but dont tar them all with the same brush, your doing yourself a dis-service.

 

[user43770]

The best thing about that link is this

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11171877/ebook-seduction-wayne-ross-the-complete-guide-to-handling-women (just skip the last section on friendship crap and romantic dribble, jesus it was going so well till I got to that point).

Geez, that article is terrible. He suggests waiting until the 8th date before making a move lol. His advice to succeeding with women is to be a nice guy. He says that you should listen to him because he's asked hundreds of women what they want in a man...

 

[user43770]

Maybe women use sex as a tool because they get the lesser part of the deal (i.e. possible pregnancy which in older times frequently led to death). I won't judge them for that, because I will never know what that's like. Men don't suffer nearly as much risk by engaging in sexual activity.

Birth control has been around for a long time.

 

[Kal0051]

His advice to succeeding with women is to be a nice guy. He says that you should listen to him because he's asked hundreds of women what they want in a man...

lol, because women know what they want most of the time

 

[Alle_Gory]

Birth control has been around for a long time.

Reeeeely.

How long is long?

 

[YAboi]

But as long as men are desperate due to the short supply of women, women will have alot of power over most men who will bow down and do as they are told so they can get some sex.

I dunno , Im starting to think that it may be a shortage of chicks that put out to non-alpha males as opposed to shortage of chicks in numbers. Its such a debatable issue, that has my mind running in circles :crazy: sometimes.


Its sorta weird cos the average man complains of not getting action but then the alpha he's talking to is like ''what are you talking about , I don't notice any shortage''

 

[jonwon]

Geez, that article is terrible. He suggests waiting until the 8th date before making a move lol. His advice to succeeding with women is to be a nice guy. He says that you should listen to him because he's asked hundreds of women what they want in a man...

Much better then the junk posted by the OP.

Which one will get you laid or get you woman in your life?

Oh, hard fuc*ing choice to make that one.

Also that book is more for a more mature man rather then a little kid who would rather play with a girls barbie doll then anything else.

It is clear the book is for a more mature guy, you'd think the posts about parent meetings and online personals would give it away?!

The advice he gives is pritty good, not all of it, but its better then reading some lamenting hate rubbish from a guy who see's woman in a very jaded light.

I mean starting the thing off with 'all woman sell their *****s' is just jaded to the ninth degree, then he just goes on to re-instate that bull-**** and using the Manipulated Man for reference. Manipulated Man is leagues above that nonesense, its just the ramblings of beta AFC wimp who has probably not been laid since birth who is simply trying to rational why every woman thinks he is a bitter freak -

Hence skip over that crap, even reading how to become a friend to a woman is better then filling your head that all woman are prostitutes out to fuc* you over and they are only with you because of: Money, looks or some-other AFC bull**** excuse we hear 24/7 from bitter nice guys.

Anyway it was the first link I saw from the link posted, hence I read about one paragraph of the original ****, clicked onto the other link and it was infinatly better to read, even the laminting puss*fied cra* at the bottom.

Also the 8 day rule could work, if your not a simpering beta wimp to start off with.

 

[YAboi]

Anyway it was the first link I saw from the link posted, hence I read about one paragraph of the original ****, clicked onto the other link and it was infinatly better to read, even the laminting puss*fied cra* at the bottom.

Yup thats certainly the same as reading the whole ebook (note sarcasm).......



Look 'mr' , when I originally read the book did it lead me to think in my mind, ''all women are evil , I hate them'' ; NO. All I thought was wow so these are some tricks of the trade that some women use, man I gotta be careful.

Your a mature man anyway so in your generation things must have been really rosy . Times are changing man , get with the times.

Besides, I have so many disclaimers in this thread its not even funny so do your reasearch properly next time buddy. At the end of the day in my original thread starting post at the bottom is my question , I brought this up to get some perspective on the whole issue.

Any mature person would just see the article (if they read it fully of course) as an extra tool in their arsenal for picking the right female to be with.


over and out, its YAboi gyueah!

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

First of all, God, I hate magenta. Second, I think you're full of sh1t because you're on an all male forum begging for attention. The author of this article goes over the subject extensively: women lie, not only to men, but to themselves. I've learned to judge a woman by her actions, not her words. So how am I to judge you, strange female?

If you must judge me, do so by my actions, see not someone who is "begging for attention" but rather as someone who actively participating in discussions where the most benefit may come, if men truly are the superior species.

The best way to learn about men is though men, not women. I believe my actions show that I am someone who cares about understanding the opposite sex, not using or manipulating them.