Has SS helped or hurt your overall game?

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Mr.Positive said:
Well, given the chance, I'd buy the beers for a lot of you folks...

SS has helped me a lot actually, to see reality for what it is....and find my place, as a unique man, in that reality. My goal was never to bang a lot of gals, but more of tapping into my own masculinity.

The men of the mature forum have helped me avoid disaster with some gals, the health forum opened the door to gaining 20 pounds of muscle, and SS has shown that we can all learn from each other's experiences.

Men helping men kick ass in life. It really is a great thing.

You are always so Mr. Positive. I like that!!! Banging tons of women never my intended goal either and never has been. I have had my share of them, nowhere a Gene Simmons or Wilt Chamberlain, but MY FAIR share.

Being the best I can be is what is ultimately important to me and that is attraction in itself. Despite my few years of down times because of injuries and setbacks, I strive to be the best.

I am really more old fashioned in how I date. That is why me spinning plates seems so foreign to me, but I am trying. The other saying goes, "If ya aint cheatin, you aint tryin." That was the incorrect on purpose version because it sounds better.
 

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While I am new here I am not new to life. I am a 33 year old guy who still has a lot to learn. SS in the short time I have read the threads, has taught me that there are traits to relationships. I don't plan to act any certian way other than myself. I do like the 3 strike rule, I learned how to look for flakiness in girls and I know that BPD is going to be something I will run into a lot.

I come here for mental acuity and to understand that when I do wrong with a girl (because I am going to) that I know how to resolve it and not to go all out like a page from the AFC book. I also come here to learn about myself. At 33 you think I would know this but I don't. I recently ran into my first case of Oneitis with a woman whom I probably should not have been involved with. I never experienced what caused me to hit that wall. I was confused at how this could be and questioned if I really knew myself.

Prior to my Oneitis Ex, I was in the parking lot of a Fox&Hound getting it on in the back seat of a 25 year olds car (almost got busted by the cops). At that time, I had no care in the world for her like I did my ex. Having learned what I have by reading what others have posted I understand why I did. SS and it's members help me ground myself because it's not always about the poon. When you reach 70 or 80, (luckily we all do) then we won't be on these boards talking about how to snag the one girl. We'll be wondering if what we did now was just enough or could we have done more. I've been fatherless since I was 11 so I have a lot of mentors. I don't come here to learn about girls. I come here to learn how the life of men live.
 

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I think the forum can be bitters towards women and make men into women haters. unless you are a complete idiot without any understanding or you dont pratice what you read or preach your are not going to learn much but you can help a lot of men out. once you learn not to bug women, look for their approval, dont buy them things and learn how to play it cool your are just helping out others guys.
 

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i would not be where i am today if not for this forum. i can hoejnstly say this forum helped me turn my life around, not just with women, just my outlook in general. I took the **** I read here to heart and really sat out to change my life

Not too long ago, a few days ago I got pissed about somethign personal and the first thing that popped in my head was pook's endure post. i know the DJ bible like the back of my hand and still read it damn near daily.
 

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backbreaker said:
i know the DJ bible like the back of my hand and still read it damn near daily.

That is straight dedication right there. I cannot say that I peruse the bible that often, but at different times I return to it for inspiration and guidance. I really should look at the thing more often and after reading your reply, I did just that. The old schoolers on here really laid out the foundation.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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The forum helped me out tremendously, I think my first three months here, my dating went from no plates, to having plates/options to eventually having my first girlfriend in over a year at the time. I was sky high, reading/writing fr's, however it wasn't until about a year or so in, that I truly started grasping concepts. It's like Squirrels would say "He knows how to run the play, but he doesn't know why the play works" now I understand why the play works, even if I don't always come up with the play at the moment. Even now with 2 years I'm now starting to embody the "prize" mentality a bit, I recently had a women take note of and say "I feel like you want me to chase you, I'm not use too it since I'm the one being chased". I still am not the prize fully yet, but mentally I'm getting there

There's lot of stuff that has hurt me, mainly the whole HB rating crap, which I think is b.s. cause everyone has a different rating and it sub-consciously pedastlazes women, and also being over-analytical. I think that has taking the joy the most, My friends have noticed that when I talk to a women I get so focused on her, that if a bomb drops next to me I wouldn't noticed. It's true, its a habit I'm trying to break cause I'm so in the moment trying to "run game" that its killing my authenticity at time (hence the much needed break I'm on) however the biggest thing is summed well by these two quotes

thedude4242 said:
I think the forum can be bitters towards women and make men into women haters. unless you are a complete idiot without any understanding or you dont pratice what you read or preach your are not going to learn much but you can help a lot of men out. once you learn not to bug women, look for their approval, dont buy them things and learn how to play it cool your are just helping out others guys.
When my game was sky-high and abundant I rarely bothered with "women are slvts" thread, but when I got in a "slump" boy, all of a sudden I was like "yeah women only care about looks" but I realized I was just joining in the b.s. of guys who were trying to justify their lack of success with women on stuff that was b.s.


Overall though it has made me more aware, my game is far from were I want it to be, sadly I think I've been backsliding a bit

meh
 

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SS has definitely helped me to better understand the nuances of social/sexual interactions between guys and girls in our society. Overall I think this forum generally overcomplicates things and confuses newbies. To me getting pu$$y is fundamentally simple: Make yourself a high value guy and you'll pull snatch with minimum effort. To me "game" is marketing... if you have a good product you won't need to market it as much, because the quality of the product will do that for you.

I joined SS at the start of my stripping career. If you're not used to it the attention you get when you're a new male entertainer is quite frankly... overwhelming. I went from simply getting checked out in the street to women stuffing money down my underwear for no apparent reason, getting random BJs in my car after shows, etc. This place helped me to better understand WHY women act the way they do. Unfortunately, there were darker sides to being a male entertainer, and in a way this site helped to keep me in line. haha, I still don't get why people thought I was trolling with this old post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=121467

I'm not sure if SS really helped my game or not. Honestly, I've never really had strong game. I've always been a pretty confident guy, and during the peak of my dancing career, my confidence w/ the opposite sex reached a zenith. All I had to do was walk down the street in a tank top and girls AND guys would be blatantly staring... it was quite hilarious! It felt like I could get any girl I wanted... I've never done "cold approaches" or sarged or whatever, because they seem like a lot of work, and because I'm generally a pretty chill/low key guy. I'd rather just sit back and let them come to me. The most important thing that SS reinforced in me was the drive for constant self improvement, and how getting women is a side effect of this drive. I'm happily engaged today and SS helped out at the start of my relationship when I didn't know what to expect, etc.

Overall I have learned a lot from this forum, and am in a better place because of it. It does pain me to see so many distraught posters on the main forum posting about trivial problems that they have with women. Hopefully most of them will figure things out in the end...
 

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backbreaker said:
i would not be where i am today if not for this forum.
Really?!? Seriously?!? I'm completely shocked. I mean I know you're just in your 20s, but you're a successful guy with a lot of drive and ambition. I can't believe this forum would be THAT much of an enlightening effect unless you are heading in the completely wrong direction when you come here.

I mean the advice is good (mostly), but there is no magic bullet. And so much of it is common sense. I guess the age difference of coming here in your 20s and coming here in your 40s has a big effect. I learned most of this stuff gradually over the years. I guess getting it all in one shot early on could be a big boost.

There's lot of stuff that has hurt me, mainly the whole HB rating crap, which I think is b.s. cause everyone has a different rating and it sub-consciously pedastlazes women, and also being over-analytical.
I don't think people's ratings differ all that much. There is always going to be some variation, but I think generally speaking over a large sample the rating system is probably going to be pretty similar for most. A good looking girl is a good looking girl.

That said, I agree it can aid pedastalizing. When you meet a girl and you see "Woah, she's an HB9, this is the real deal" that probably does put her on on a pedestal. You're saying she's high value to begin with. It makes you think you have to have your best game, which will probably incline you to mess up. But she'd probably have a similar effect whether there was a rating system or not.
 

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zekko said:
Really?!? Seriously?!?

I mean the advice is good (mostly), but there is no magic bullet. And so much of it is common sense. I guess the age difference of coming here in your 20s and coming here in your 40s has a big effect. I learned most of this stuff gradually over the years. I guess getting it all in one shot early on could be a big boost.

Gradually over the years is how I feel about myself as well. I am hardly perfect and my game is not bad. It has worked well enough over the years. This site has brought many things to light for me and explains much of the behavior you see out in the real world.

With that said, I just have to stop with my over analytical side. Problem with that is I have always been that way with everything in life. Old habits are hard to break.
 

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zekko said:
I don't think people's ratings differ all that much. There is always going to be some variation, but I think generally speaking over a large sample the rating system is probably going to be pretty similar for most. A good looking girl is a good looking girl.

That said, I agree it can aid pedastalizing. When you meet a girl and you see "Woah, she's an HB9, this is the real deal" that probably does put her on on a pedestal. You're saying she's high value to begin with. It makes you think you have to have your best game, which will probably incline you to mess up. But she'd probably have a similar effect whether there was a rating system or not.
Meh maybe your right, I was honestly shocked that this thread, had a lot of guys who liked these women, considering most guys/bloggers prefer the Taylor Swift type so you may be on to something
 

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Solomon said:
I was honestly shocked that this thread, had a lot of guys who liked these women
Really, I think guys will respond differently to pictures than to girls in real life. I could see a guy making snarky negative remarks about a picture of a girl posted on the internet. But put that same woman at a party with him in real life, coyly flirting with him....He might come up with a different opinion!

Also, it's hard to tell how attractive a girl is from one picture of her. It could be a very good picture of her, or it could be a very bad picture of her. I've seen pictures of one girl and in some she looks terrible and in some she looks incredibly hot. A lot has to do with the angle, lighting, expression, etc.

Ever seem a picture of a girl, then seen her in real life? She usually looks different, doesn't she?
 

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zekko said:
Really?!? Seriously?!? I'm completely shocked. I mean I know you're just in your 20s, but you're a successful guy with a lot of drive and ambition. I can't believe this forum would be THAT much of an enlightening effect unless you are heading in the completely wrong direction when you come here.

I mean the advice is good (mostly), but there is no magic bullet. And so much of it is common sense. I guess the age difference of coming here in your 20s and coming here in your 40s has a big effect. I learned most of this stuff gradually over the years. I guess getting it all in one shot early on could be a big boost.


I don't think people's ratings differ all that much. There is always going to be some variation, but I think generally speaking over a large sample the rating system is probably going to be pretty similar for most. A good looking girl is a good looking girl.

That said, I agree it can aid pedastalizing. When you meet a girl and you see "Woah, she's an HB9, this is the real deal" that probably does put her on on a pedestal. You're saying she's high value to begin with. It makes you think you have to have your best game, which will probably incline you to mess up. But she'd probably have a similar effect whether there was a rating system or not.
it wasn't so much this information on this site per say. you are correct in that sense. but this site "flip the switch" so to speak. When I found this site, I was sitting at home, recording video gamees for a living and selling them. wasn't doing all that bad but still, no dirve to do antyhing differently.


As far as reading the site daily i generally just find a post and read it. After so many years it's just a part of my day now, like an AA member reads the Big book.

I didn't start my business until August 30th, 2002 which was the day we filed the paperwork with the state, 4 months after I found this site.
 

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it wasn't so much this information on this site per say. you are correct in that sense. but this site "flip the switch" so to speak. When I found this site, I was sitting at home, recording video gamees for a living and selling them. wasn't doing all that bad but still, no dirve to do antyhing differently.
I do agree that this site can be a good motivating force.
It reminds you to stay in touch with your masculinity and get out there and be the best man you can be.
 

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zekko said:
Really, I think guys will respond differently to pictures than to girls in real life. I could see a guy making snarky negative remarks about a picture of a girl posted on the internet. But put that same woman at a party with him in real life, coyly flirting with him....He might come up with a different opinion!

Also, it's hard to tell how attractive a girl is from one picture of her. It could be a very good picture of her, or it could be a very bad picture of her. I've seen pictures of one girl and in some she looks terrible and in some she looks incredibly hot. A lot has to do with the angle, lighting, expression, etc.

Ever seem a picture of a girl, then seen her in real life? She usually looks different, doesn't she?

Agreed, I think a lot of guys put on face, to make themselves look better, it's like if a chick isn't skinny, blond, with 36dd's then she isn't hot!

I see women all the time on camera who are meh, but in person their

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Well, initially I got here to find out how the hell I could get a GF. At the time, I already believed that I was a decent guy, but still raw and rather naive. After reading the advices here, success followed swiftly and was plentiful.

Eventually and inevitably, I started running into messed up women, or women who are just a bad fit for me. Naturally I came back here to find help and ended up learning way too much about those women, and how to avoid them, that it started to hurt my success with women. Like my Uncle Jophil mentioned earlier in the thread, I became pretty good at observing & analysing bad female behaviours that it felt like there's hardly any semi-decent sane one left! I'm not 100% sure whether it's for the better or worse, but whenever I see some guy having his life wrecked by a destructive woman, I'm glad I'm not him and know how to avoid women like her.
 

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If you really want to evaluate your progress here on SS , go over to Loveshack or one of the eHarmony advice forums and read the comments from the male corespondents.
 

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Helped to change perspective and clarify understanding. However, it was critical, after a certain point, to leave this collective circle-jerk behind and learn from MY own real life experiences...
 

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jophil28 said:
If you really want to evaluate your progress here on SS , go over to Loveshack or one of the eHarmony advice forums and read the comments from the male corespondents.

Is not this the damn truth!!!! You will find all kinds of garbage advice there. All geared to making women smile and the men miserable.
 

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If you really want to evaluate your progress here on SS , go over to Loveshack or one of the eHarmony advice forums and read the comments from the male corespondents.
it's funny you said this.

I caught myself trying to give a guy advice a few weeks ago, it was like talking to a betamax.
 

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backbreaker said:
it's funny you said this.

I caught myself trying to give a guy advice a few weeks ago, it was like talking to a betamax.
We all know what happened to the Betamax!!!

1) It was initially a good idea-it worked, but was not great and I recall it was expensive.
2) VCR was better and cheaper (from what I recall)
3) DVD was pretty damn good, and Blu Ray absolutely stellar.

I like the analogy of the Betamax: It was an idea that was thought to have been great, just as the beta thinks being an afc is what women want. Then you graduate to the VCR and do a little better. After that, DVD baby!!! Once you get to Blu Ray DVD, you have perfected your game.

Times and the way we will deal with women must change. That is right Mr. Betamax male!! Thanks going to BB for the idea.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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