great sex..says we should stop?

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so i had sex with this girl last night. sexy as ****..anyway we ****ed at a friends house, then went back to mine and ****ed some more. the sex was great, i had her screaming, i had to put my hand over her mouth to keep her from waking up my parents, she also seemed to be amazed at how long i lasted. she kept talking about how it was so crazy and that we didnt even know each other.(this was like the third or 4th time weve ever hung out) yet she was all over me all night and even this morning constantly kissing and hugging me.

she kept making little hints at being together but i just kind of ignored it everytime she would say something. she told me i was only the second guy shes had sex with and that it was so unlike her to do something like this.(which i believe..everyone always says what a nice sweet little girl she is) and she just kept talking about the first time she saw me and how she always thought i was cute and all that.

so like an hour ago we were talking on facebook and i brought up sex. she said "i dont think thats a good idea."
me "whaa.."
her "were friends..i just dont think we should"
me"ok then"
her" it was fun though :) i just cant have sex with a guy im not even with"
me"ya i understand"
then she went on asking me if i was mad about something or another.

so...what do you guys think of this. i really want to keep ****ing her, and shes the type of girl i could definetely see myself being with. i know this sounds afc but i do already miss being around her, but dont worry..i dont think ive shown it at all. what do i do?
 

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Don't worry dude. She's being stand-offish so you won't think she's a slvt.

Just play it real cool and don't give her too much attention or act too interested in her. Let her chase you. If she wants you as a bf then let her bring it up. Otherwise never talk about it.

If you fcuked her good she'll come around for more soon enough. :up:
 

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Slickster said:
Don't worry dude. She's being stand-offish so you won't think she's a slvt.

Just play it real cool and don't give her too much attention or act too interested in her. Let her chase you. If she wants you as a bf then let her bring it up. Otherwise never talk about it.

If you fcuked her good she'll come around for more soon enough. :up:
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Yea man shes just using sex as her weapon to pull you into a relationship. If you dont wanna get into a relationship with her, then dont. Dont give in to something you dont want just cuz you want the sex. Lay off her her a bit, let her come to you some, and when you two do hang out again (which you will), simply just get her really riled up and horny and then fvck her. Beware though: Shes gonna give you Last Minute Resistance cuz she doesnt wanna feel like a slvt cuz you two arent going out. Ignore this LMR, and continue trying to advance to sex with her.

Trust me man, if she really enjoyed the sex that much, shes DEFINITELY gonna come back for more. Dont ever convince yourself that she doesnt want the sex, cuz she always will.
 

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I had some all night wild sex with a girl that the time I didnt even know and went all the night. I also had to put my hand over her mouth so my parents wouldnt hear (not that they would have cared anyway) it reminded me of my story.

talking about your story, if she loved the sex she will be back. just dont contact her too much until she starts contacting you and you know you have her or dont act too interested and you will be fine. a good thing to do is let her be the one to make contact with you the next few times if you can.
 

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falconslax89 said:
so i had sex with this girl last night. sexy as ****..anyway we ****ed at a friends house, then went back to mine and ****ed some more. the sex was great, i had her screaming, i had to put my hand over her mouth to keep her from waking up my parents, she also seemed to be amazed at how long i lasted. she kept talking about how it was so crazy and that we didnt even know each other.(this was like the third or 4th time weve ever hung out) yet she was all over me all night and even this morning constantly kissing and hugging me.

she kept making little hints at being together but i just kind of ignored it everytime she would say something. she told me i was only the second guy shes had sex with and that it was so unlike her to do something like this.(which i believe..everyone always says what a nice sweet little girl she is) and she just kept talking about the first time she saw me and how she always thought i was cute and all that.

so like an hour ago we were talking on facebook and i brought up sex. she said "i dont think thats a good idea."
me "whaa.."
her "were friends..i just dont think we should"
me"ok then"
her" it was fun though :) i just cant have sex with a guy im not even with"
me"ya i understand"
then she went on asking me if i was mad about something or another.

so...what do you guys think of this. i really want to keep ****ing her, and shes the type of girl i could definetely see myself being with. i know this sounds afc but i do already miss being around her, but dont worry..i dont think ive shown it at all. what do i do?
Don't listen to the naive posters saying she will come back because the sex was great...

This is an ATTENTION WH0RE ALERT!

The only reason she had sex with you was because she wanted to see if she could and to prop up her extremely low self-esteem for a limited time.

Why do you think she acted so into the sex and was so impressed blah blah (not saying you are bad or anything but she was probably lying to stroke your ego) then just goes cold fish on you when you did absolutely nothing wrong?

You did well by acting unaffected when she denied talking about having sex again, which is why she asked if you were mad even though you acted unemotional.

I'm not sure what exactly your relationship with her is like but if you ever want to tap that again you have to ignore her most of the time. I'm guessing she will send you random facebook and text messages for attention, DON'T REPLY unless they are blatantly sexual - in which case you can reply with C&F but don't act too eager. You need to appear vaguely interested, like you kind of want her, you don't need her and you have other hotter girls on your mind. If you can make her jealous it will help your cause greatly, perhaps be seen flirting with another girl or have a picture of you with another girl on facebook. If you have high social status then that can help you a lot with these girls.

You have to appear like the ultimate challenge and make the b1tch work for your time and attention. When you give it to her, if she doesn't give you what you want in return (ie. sex) then you go back to ignoring her.

Disclaimer: attention wh0res are strictly for sex only. Do not get emotionally involved. You have been warned.
 

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^I disagree with you; just because she enjoyed the sex doesnt mean shes an attention wh*re. Your just jumping to conclusions on this one, and you dont even know why the two of them had sex in the first place. My guess is that they were simply just both into each other, and wanted to fvck. Simple as that. That doesnt mean she did it for attention, and it doesnt mean she had really low self esteem lmao.

From what it sounds like, I HIGHLY doubt this chick was lying and completely faking her awesome enjoyment of the sex. She didnt exactly go "cold fish", that wud be more like just completely ignoring this guy and not givin a sh*t, but she instead attempted to use the power of sex to pull him into a relationship, simply cuz she prolly enjoyed the sex that much and wants this guy all to herself.
 

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She's trying to sucker you into a relationship.
 

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EDIT (removed post): This ******* completely misrepresented the situation to the point it seems he even lies to himself. It really sucks that people try to help others and then some self-deluded person wanders along asking for help for the completely wrong thing. This is especially true considering the posting limit as well as the time people put in to help.

Good luck dude, this sort of thing is going to cause you nothing but trouble in life and you deserve every last bit of it.
 
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I agree with MysteriousGuy, but the only thing I personally wouldnt agree on would be avoiding the sex talk. Obviously, if you two had sex like a few hours earlier and you're already talking literally about the sex you had, that is not good. But, if its just some normal day and the topic of sex comes up, I really dont see any problem in joking around with her about it, using some c&f, or saying some things to get her horny. Just to clear up though, when I mean talk about "sex" I mean talk about "sexual stuff", not literally talk about the past experiences you two have had during sex. "Ohh I had so much fun that one time when we fvcked at your house". Not good. Sexual talk is fun to do, and it separates you from other guys cuz you dont seem as boring, but rather you seem more masculine and sexual. Girs like that.

My two cents.
 

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katatonia said:
Don't listen to the naive posters saying she will come back because the sex was great...

This is an ATTENTION WH0RE ALERT!

The only reason she had sex with you was because she wanted to see if she could and to prop up her extremely low self-esteem for a limited time.

Why do you think she acted so into the sex and was so impressed blah blah (not saying you are bad or anything but she was probably lying to stroke your ego) then just goes cold fish on you when you did absolutely nothing wrong?

You did well by acting unaffected when she denied talking about having sex again, which is why she asked if you were mad even though you acted unemotional.

I'm not sure what exactly your relationship with her is like but if you ever want to tap that again you have to ignore her most of the time. I'm guessing she will send you random facebook and text messages for attention, DON'T REPLY unless they are blatantly sexual - in which case you can reply with C&F but don't act too eager. You need to appear vaguely interested, like you kind of want her, you don't need her and you have other hotter girls on your mind. If you can make her jealous it will help your cause greatly, perhaps be seen flirting with another girl or have a picture of you with another girl on facebook. If you have high social status then that can help you a lot with these girls.

You have to appear like the ultimate challenge and make the b1tch work for your time and attention. When you give it to her, if she doesn't give you what you want in return (ie. sex) then you go back to ignoring her.

Disclaimer: attention wh0res are strictly for sex only. Do not get emotionally involved. You have been warned.
lol this is the reason i love sosuave, you have posters who like making assumptions about everything and love going against the grain just for the hell of it.
 

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continue to do what you are doing because you did have sex with her so you are doing something right. just dont ber her *****, call her or text her too much and be busy doing stuff even if you are not. let her contact you the next few times you talk dont be like a kid in a candy store with her. dont give her any information you dont have to. tell her jokingly its none of her business or give her that keep her guessing. no direct answers.
 

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teacha said:
lol this is the reason i love sosuave, you have posters who like making assumptions about everything and love going against the grain just for the hell of it.
This is why I hate sosuave, you have idiots like yourself talking when you have no idea what you're talking about.

This is classic HPD/BPD attention wh0re behaviour. I would say there is a 99% chance I am right, so I am hardly making an assumption.

Of course the OP will disregard my advice for what everyone else in this thread and get nowhere with this girl. Oh well it's up to him.
 

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OP...chill out man...why should you have any questions now? You already had her! In keeping with what MysteriousGuy said, don't turn into jello after fvcking. This is where *some* guys hear LJBF after the sexing and think "What the hell, they're all wh0res!" But once you've had sex, what the hell do you have to worry about anyway? You just sit back and be Joe Cool (emotionally speaking) and the sex train keeps a rollin':cool:
 

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falconslax89 said:
her" it was fun though :) i just cant have sex with a guy im not even with"
She has a case of "buyer's remorse" or " morning after remorse".

Many women realize early in their young adult life that sex is not only a lot of fun, but can be traded for benefits and rewards from men..
This little lady was struck by the reality that she indulged her lust instead of withholding sex and trading access to her vagina for the promise of a relationship.
She says so, postfactum, in the quote above.
 

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ok, so this story gets more interesting in a ****ed up turn of events.

so, this girl had only been broken up with her boyfriend for like a month maybe..she broke up with him. she said he treated her badly and she was sick of it and knew even if she went back it would only be good for awhile, then things would go back to the way they were.

now usually you can tell when a girl genuinly misses her ex boyfriend but tries to act like she doesnt. she will talk about him a lot and diss him and just talk about what a piece of **** he was..but of course she really still wants him. well, that didnt seem like the case with this girl. she would say how weird it was that she didnt miss him at all and how good it felt to finally break up for good and be done with his ****.

so anyway, i left this tidbit out originally, but the night we ****ed her ex bf had called her like 10 times through out the night. she didnt answer bc i was busy screwing her brains out.:cool: lol. she has a bunch of missed calls from him, one from his mom, and some from his bro. the bro says that her ex is freaking out and talking about killing himself and all kinds of crazy ****. but that morning around 7 he calls again and she finally answers. i can hear the conversation and he sounds really messed up. he was in tears and was probably under the influence of something. hes crying, telling her how much he misses and loves her, and how he made the biggest mistake of his life and hes so sorry and all of that. she talks to him for awhile but basically shoots down everything he says. he asks her to meet him and she says she cant. he says he will come get her and she tells him no. she says that he just needs to get his life straightened out and how he just needs to spend time with his family and friends because he is pushing them away and becoming a different person with drug use and just being an overall piece of **** to sum it up...but she did it all in a very very kind, caring way..never getting angry or yelling at him or anything.

so...they keep talking for awhile and he asks her where shes at. she tells him my house. he interrogates her further and ends up asking her if we had sex and she just straight up tells him that we did, with me laying there next to her. i dont say anything but im thinking the whole time ya know..why the **** is she telling him all this. i actually felt bad for the guy he sounded like he just wanted to ****ing die when he heard this. they talk for a good 15 minutes, him just pleading and begging her to see him and her keep denying him and telling him he needs to focus on his family and friends and how she cant be with him and shes sorry and that he just hurt her too many times and she has to go.

so they hang up and shes right back all over me..snuggling with me and kissing my cheeks and were kissing and all that. but not hardcore or anything its the early morning and im still half asleep.

so then this dudes mom calls and she talks to her for awhile. she tells his mom pretty much what she told him. the mom gives the whole encouraging speech about how he really is a good guy but she understands why she doesnt want to be with him anymore and that they will always love each other but it might be best just to move on. she tells his mom how the guy is just like his dad, and she has seen the mom be hurt and she doesnt want to be in that situation in the long run. she then brings me up and tells his mom how she really likes me and its not fair to get me involved.

ok so after this is over she doesnt seem at all distraught, and shes just as into me as ever. she hangs out at my place until about 1030 and is still kissin and huggin on me. i take her to pick up her friend(who just met me the night before but seems to really like me) and she tells her how many times we had sex and about the whole ex bf calling and how she told him that we had sex and how much he was freaking out and all and they seem to laugh about it. she kisses me goodbye and even after shes gone keeps flirting with me by texting me that her hair smells like me and all kinds of **** like that. she ask me to go to kansas city with her and her friend and tells me we have a place to stay together.(she was talking about this all last night, but i told her i didnt know if i could)

so i didnt talk to her the rest of the day then last night around 8...what do ya know. her relationship on facebook is back together with her ex. his status is'time to be the man she deserves'..

they say you always want what you cant have, and its definitely true because the second i saw that i about **** myself i was so mad. i did nothing but i thought about her all night and most of today and its driving me ****ing crazy. i went to a buddies, got stoned, worked out and did my best not to think of her.i want her so bad now, but i havent let that get the best of me. she text me today saying"we are friends right" but i didnt reply to her. we've had no contact.

what do i do? just forget about it and find some new girls? school starts back up monday so im thinking that should help keep me preoccupied. no matter how afc it sounds, this girl is truely different from anyone ive ever had a thing with. she genuinly sweet, the type you could bring home to your parents, but she is so damn sexy...everything about her. though i have kept these feelings to myself and put me on the pedestol, not her. she has so many interests with me..i feel as though im not going to find another girl like this...and please dont tell me i will..sometimes you just know things and this is one of those things i just know, and unless your in my situation and actually know this girl you cant tell me i will find another one like her. the question now is what to make of everything.. i just dont know.

any help would be appreciated..just forget about her? feel free to rip into me about being a chump i probably need it. ****.
 

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Continue having sex with her in secret, this guy is clearly extremely AFC and the relationship will be terrible.

However, dont think like this:

this girl is truely different from anyone ive ever had a thing with. she genuinly sweet, the type you could bring home to your parents, but she is so damn sexy...everything about her. though i have kept these feelings to myself and put me on the pedestol, not her. she has so many interests with me..i feel as though im not going to find another girl like this...
Think of her like the silly cheating slut she is.
 

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no matter how afc it sounds, this girl is truely different from anyone ive ever had a thing with. she genuinly sweet, the type you could bring home to your parents, but she is so damn sexy...everything about her. though i have kept these feelings to myself and put me on the pedestol, not her. she has so many interests with me..i feel as though im not going to find another girl like this...and please dont tell me i will..sometimes you just know things and this is one of those things i just know, and unless your in my situation and actually know this girl you cant tell me i will find another one like her. the question now is what to make of everything.. i just dont know.

The short answer: That's classical High Dopamine / Low Serotonin combination, that evolved over thousands of years in Nature. There's really no easy way out, besides time...

Psychologically, by having sex with you and telling her boyfriend, she dragged herself down to his level, solving at least temporarily the Cognitive Dissonance that made her feel 'too good for him'.

Of course, the same thing is likely to happen again, probably over and over. Each time it happens she is likely to go back to you or want to hang out, and you'd be her personal rebound guy, which is probably the worst position in the world.


The worst part is that you actually 'saw it coming':

ow usually you can tell when a girl genuinly misses her ex boyfriend but tries to act like she doesnt. she will talk about him a lot and diss him and just talk about what a piece of **** he was..but of course she really still wants him. well, that didnt seem like the case with this girl. she would say how weird it was that she didnt miss him at all and how good it felt to finally break up for good and be done with his ****.
The whole post is also classical denial (I mean on her part). She was talking about her ex and dissing him, which was a big warning sign (and you knew it).

Anyway, the bottom line is that you want to know what to do. Just about everyone will tell you to next her. I don't particular like nexting a person, because this intense feeling lasts from 6 months up to 2 years... but I'm in no mood to start another discussion on the pitfalls of NC and NEXTing...

By the way, I don't think you're a chump for falling for a girl, you will only be a chump if you stop living your life because of this girl...

Best of luck...
 

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"she said he treated her badly and she was sick of it and knew even if she went back it would only be good for awhile, then things would go back to the way they were."

Yeah...

She SAID that but you have no way to verify that this was in any way true.

Chicks lie about this sh!t all the time and dumbass guys believe them totally since they're the current guy hitting it.

Heed 2pac's words of wisdom here... "just because I fvcked her don't mean I trust her."

"now usually you can tell when a girl genuinly misses her ex boyfriend but tries to act like she doesnt. she will talk about him a lot and diss him and just talk about what a piece of **** he was..but of course she really still wants him. well, that didnt seem like the case with this girl. she would say how weird it was that she didnt miss him at all and how good it felt to finally break up for good and be done with his ****."

Uh huh...

This is just more buttering you up as the new top dawg in her life to make you trust her...don't trust any woman in regards to what they say about past relationships.

That sh!t is just a smokescreen to make you feel invincible so you don't question her true feelings or lackthereof for her ex.

"so anyway, i left this tidbit out originally, but the night we ****ed her ex bf had called her like 10 times through out the night. she didnt answer bc i was busy screwing her brains out. lol. she has a bunch of missed calls from him, one from his mom, and some from his bro. the bro says that her ex is freaking out and talking about killing himself and all kinds of crazy ****. but that morning around 7 he calls again and she finally answers. i can hear the conversation and he sounds really messed up. he was in tears and was probably under the influence of something. hes crying, telling her how much he misses and loves her, and how he made the biggest mistake of his life and hes so sorry and all of that. she talks to him for awhile but basically shoots down everything he says. he asks her to meet him and she says she cant. he says he will come get her and she tells him no. she says that he just needs to get his life straightened out and how he just needs to spend time with his family and friends because he is pushing them away and becoming a different person with drug use and just being an overall piece of **** to sum it up...but she did it all in a very very kind, caring way..never getting angry or yelling at him or anything."

That doesn't mean anything if Katatonia is right about her being a Cluster B...if she's one of them she got off on his pain even if she seemed to do so in a loving and caring way.

"so...they keep talking for awhile and he asks her where shes at. she tells him my house. he interrogates her further and ends up asking her if we had sex and she just straight up tells him that we did, with me laying there next to her. i dont say anything but im thinking the whole time ya know..why the **** is she telling him all this."

Because she's a sick b!tch who gets off on hurting others and getting the attention of being worthwhile in some way maybe? Worthwhile in that her rolling around with you effected another guy emotionally which means that she's worth something. True AW's have no sense of self worth so they need to get it by lowlife behavior like this.

"i actually felt bad for the guy he sounded like he just wanted to ****ing die when he heard this. they talk for a good 15 minutes, him just pleading and begging her to see him and her keep denying him and telling him he needs to focus on his family and friends and how she cant be with him and shes sorry and that he just hurt her too many times and she has to go."

Translation: You fell in love with me and lost my little game. Too bad for you.

"so they hang up and shes right back all over me..snuggling with me and kissing my cheeks and were kissing and all that. but not hardcore or anything its the early morning and im still half asleep."

You are in the white knight phase of her illness...for now you can do no wrong.

"so then this dudes mom calls and she talks to her for awhile. she tells his mom pretty much what she told him. the mom gives the whole encouraging speech about how he really is a good guy but she understands why she doesnt want to be with him anymore and that they will always love each other but it might be best just to move on. she tells his mom how the guy is just like his dad, and she has seen the mom be hurt and she doesnt want to be in that situation in the long run. she then brings me up and tells his mom how she really likes me and its not fair to get me involved."

Well that was assh0lish on her part but its all too common of AW's to get highly personal with people and reach for the jugular with their button pressing.
What she said to mommy she judged would work on her in particular to get her on the AW's side.

"ok so after this is over she doesnt seem at all distraught"

Of course not. They have zero empathy for the plight of others. Everyone else is a 2d cartoon character to them there to suit their momentary desires. They'll say and do what they have to in order to get what they want. The words have no depth or real meaning behind them. They are all that matters in their world.

"and shes just as into me as ever. she hangs out at my place until about 1030 and is still kissin and huggin on me. i take her to pick up her friend(who just met me the night before but seems to really like me) and she tells her how many times we had sex and about the whole ex bf calling and how she told him that we had sex and how much he was freaking out and all and they seem to laugh about it."

I find it funny that the fvcking idiots on this board who criticized katatonia for bringing up the Cluster B condition didn't think anything of this portion of your post...the laughing at someone's intense emotional pain is telling of sociopathic scum.

"she kisses me goodbye and even after shes gone keeps flirting with me by texting me that her hair smells like me and all kinds of **** like that. she ask me to go to kansas city with her and her friend and tells me we have a place to stay together.(she was talking about this all last night, but i told her i didnt know if i could)

so i didnt talk to her the rest of the day then last night around 8...what do ya know. her relationship on facebook is back together with her ex. his status is'time to be the man she deserves'.."


You got played son...don't worry...aw will be back. They'll break up again eventually...read some of Bible Belt's posts for a play by play of what you can expect in your future if you continue down this dark road that leads to nowhere.

"they say you always want what you cant have, and its definitely true because the second i saw that i about **** myself i was so mad. i did nothing but i thought about her all night and most of today and its driving me ****ing crazy. i went to a buddies, got stoned, worked out and did my best not to think of her.i want her so bad now, but i havent let that get the best of me. she text me today saying"we are friends right" but i didnt reply to her. we've had no contact.

what do i do? just forget about it and find some new girls? school starts back up monday so im thinking that should help keep me preoccupied. no matter how afc it sounds, this girl is truely different from anyone ive ever had a thing with. she genuinly sweet, the type you could bring home to your parents, but she is so damn sexy...everything about her."


Listen to yourself!

No she's NOT sweet.

A girl that does this sort of bullsh!t is a piece of human garbage.

She used you and she's using him and you are saying every last thing a BPD/HPD victim does about their ex or current sicko love interest right after getting involved or out of a relationship with one...oh she's so different, so angelic so irresistably sexy...check check check and check we've heard it all before. You met one of these creatures too. Its not unusual on a forum of fvcked up guys to have those fvcked up guys run into fvcked up women like this. Like attracts like.

"though i have kept these feelings to myself and put me on the pedestol, not her. she has so many interests with me..i feel as though im not going to find another girl like this...and please dont tell me i will..sometimes you just know things and this is one of those things i just know, and unless your in my situation and actually know this girl you cant tell me i will find another one like her. the question now is what to make of everything.. i just dont know.

any help would be appreciated..just forget about her? feel free to rip into me about being a chump i probably need it. ****."


Actually there are other girls like this since there are millions more affected with BPD and HPD.

Just find one and you'll go from obsessing over this nutter to obsessing over the next nutter.

"she has so many interests with me."

No she really doesn't.

HPD/BPD engages in a process called mirroring which is where they take the best aspects of your personality and pretend they agree with the same things and have the same feelings and thoughts and are just generally very supportive of everything that you do at first and build you up like a god that can do no wrong.

Then when they take it all away by suddenly leaving you to go fvck an ex or someone else you are suddenly left without your soulmate which is really no soulmate at all but a human drug high.

If you don't understand what I mean by mirroring use the forum search feature and look it up or do a google search for BPD or HPD mirroring.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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