Going to meet that cute 49 yr old teacher tonight. How to keep frame?

[biggoal]

Why did you keep on pestering her to change her mind? You should had just said, ok, take care.

Because it's hard to meet women around this region and she's cute so you can't just give up and I'm not a quitter! Guys at my part time job b*tch about the like of OLD options around here and only a very few select landwhales. Got one guy who's driving up to Tampa to meet a girl he's been talking to on Tinder. Said the same thing how literally no girls on OLD around here. Literally are none!

 

[biggoal]

Here are my first couple messages back and forth from OLD before we started chatting in text messages. THe cut and paste doesn't work well though so the paragraphs are not spaced out.

I was just browsing on here and saw your wonderful smile and simply adorkable glasses which I'm a huge sucker for! Anyway, I read over your entire profile (yea, I actually read them unlike many guys lol) and must say I'm really impressed! One of the best summaries I've read on here. Very thoughtful! I was really touched on the funny, and outgoing part. I mean, just from your photos I could tell exactly your personality type! Photos say a lot and that smile on your face! I see you're an introvert as well. I guess I can say I'm one too until I know someone. Otherwise, I'm pretty shy at first too. Hey, maybe that's why we're using online dating Once I get to know you I'm a chatty chat! Love the active lifestyle part. I just hate being inside in general! So, how often do you run? I run almost daily, sometimes 6 miles! Good stress reliever! I noticed you touched on communication and chemistry in a relationship as well. I gotta say that section piqued my interest the most! Being able to communicate well with each other and have intense conversations I feel makes for an intense and more intimate relationship. While looks are important, intelligence is very attractive as well to me in a person! There has to be substance to a person, not just a pretty face. Personality and intelligence, education are very important to me. So, what level education do you teach? Oh, and I just adore that you list your political beliefs! I myself am very conservative! However, since a lot of women on here list their dislike for Trump supporters and conservatives on their profile I refrain from openly listing it. We probably agree on a lot of issues! Big points you just scored right there Well anyway, I would just love to chat and find out more about you. Based on what I read about you I think we have a ton in common with each other. I do know you're probably wondering why I'm writing to you because of our age difference! Well, honestly I prefer women older than me due to maturity reasons. Women younger than me or around my age seem to be less mature and knowing what they want in life. What you wrote about on your profile is a classic example of why I prefer someone more mature! Well, anyway, I know my message was long, BUT you put a ton of effort in your profile, and I always feel if someone is serious and took the time to explain themselves that it's common respect to give the same attention and effort in return! Have a wonderful evening and look forward to chatting

Her
Nov 26, 11:03 PM
You're sweet and I loved reading your message and profile. I think we have a lot in common....I suspect you might share my personality type. Have you ever taken Myers brig type personality test? http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp Check it out and let me know what it comes out. You're supposed to answer based on you're most real self and not what you want to be or how you wish you were

Me
Well thank you How was your day? I'm just sitting here finishing up my ordering and then doing a quick workout before bed! I know I've taken that test online before, looks familiar but don't remember what I scored. I'll try taking it right before bed or tomorrow and you can bet I'll get back with you ASAP

Me
Nov 27, 9:24 AM
Good morning So I took the test and below are my results, I scored ENFJ. So what do you think of it? I did score a bit on Extravert which is a bit of surprise, but like you once I really get to know someone I'm pretty talkative So what are your plans for Thanksgiving? ENFJ Extravert(6%) iNtuitive(69%) Feeling(19%) Judging(34%) • You have slight preference of Extraversion over Introversion (6%) • You have distinct preference of Intuition over Sensing (69%) • You have slight preference of Feeling over Thinking (19%) • You have moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (34%)

Her
Nov 27, 1:30 PM
What I suggest is that you read the in-depth profile for ENFJ and then also read it for infj. My gut is that you are probably more of an infj, which is what I am. Generally, when someone responds to my profile and feels the kind of connection that you did it's because you are the same .
I'm curious how you ended up down here? Do you have any family here? I'm a local... grew up down here. I'll be going to my mom and dad's tomorrow for a very tame Thanksgiving dinner compared to years past.

 

[RickTheToad]

Because it's hard to meet women around this region and she's cute so you can't just give up and I'm not a quitter! Guys at my part time job b*tch about the like of OLD options around here and only a very few select landwhales. Got one guy who's driving up to Tampa to meet a girl he's been talking to on Tinder. Said the same thing how literally no girls on OLD around here. Literally are none!

You need to make a decision on moving to another locale for more options. Running after a lady after she said no will not change her mind.

 

[biggoal]

You need to make a decision on moving to another locale for more options. Running after a lady after she said no will not change her mind.

Why would she keep sending me selfies though?

 

[Black Widow Void]

You are giving up on Biggoal too? That means you are a quitter. Are you a quitter?

Nah... I've put him on temporary ignore until the first of February. I found myself wanting to type some rather cutting and hurtful responses to him and figured it's best if I take a break.

I want him to succeed. I'll take him off of the temp-ignore and try to help him out in Feb.

 

[corrector]

Why would she keep sending me selfies though?

Because she's an attention hor.

 

[corrector]

Because it's hard to meet women around this region and she's cute so you can't just give up and I'm not a quitter! Guys at my part time job b*tch about the like of OLD options around here and only a very few select landwhales. Got one guy who's driving up to Tampa to meet a girl he's been talking to on Tinder. Said the same thing how literally no girls on OLD around here. Literally are none!

This song describes your approach to women.

 

[corrector]

4000 views and 360 replies. The problem is not with Biggoal here.

 

[Spaz]

Here are my first couple messages back and forth from OLD before we started chatting in text messages. THe cut and paste doesn't work well though so the paragraphs are not spaced out.

I was just browsing on here and saw your wonderful smile and simply adorkable glasses which I'm a huge sucker for! Anyway, I read over your entire profile (yea, I actually read them unlike many guys lol) and must say I'm really impressed! One of the best summaries I've read on here. Very thoughtful! I was really touched on the funny, and outgoing part. I mean, just from your photos I could tell exactly your personality type! Photos say a lot and that smile on your face! I see you're an introvert as well. I guess I can say I'm one too until I know someone. Otherwise, I'm pretty shy at first too. Hey, maybe that's why we're using online dating Once I get to know you I'm a chatty chat! Love the active lifestyle part. I just hate being inside in general! So, how often do you run? I run almost daily, sometimes 6 miles! Good stress reliever! I noticed you touched on communication and chemistry in a relationship as well. I gotta say that section piqued my interest the most! Being able to communicate well with each other and have intense conversations I feel makes for an intense and more intimate relationship. While looks are important, intelligence is very attractive as well to me in a person! There has to be substance to a person, not just a pretty face. Personality and intelligence, education are very important to me. So, what level education do you teach? Oh, and I just adore that you list your political beliefs! I myself am very conservative! However, since a lot of women on here list their dislike for Trump supporters and conservatives on their profile I refrain from openly listing it. We probably agree on a lot of issues! Big points you just scored right there Well anyway, I would just love to chat and find out more about you. Based on what I read about you I think we have a ton in common with each other. I do know you're probably wondering why I'm writing to you because of our age difference! Well, honestly I prefer women older than me due to maturity reasons. Women younger than me or around my age seem to be less mature and knowing what they want in life. What you wrote about on your profile is a classic example of why I prefer someone more mature! Well, anyway, I know my message was long, BUT you put a ton of effort in your profile, and I always feel if someone is serious and took the time to explain themselves that it's common respect to give the same attention and effort in return! Have a wonderful evening and look forward to chatting

At ur opening line to her:

1st mistake = too eager.

2nd mistake = virginal sounding.

3rd mistake = bordering on pleading for a date.

4th and most important mistake = taken in its entirety, you sound like a dangerous man who might just end up killing her if she repulse ur advance after agreeing towards a few dates.

Now, BG, how should you change the above perception and make women feel comfortable enough to date you?

 

[biggoal]

At ur opening line to her:

1st mistake = too eager.

2nd mistake = virginal sounding.

3rd mistake = bordering on pleading for a date.

4th and most important mistake = taken in its entirety, you sound like a dangerous man who might just end up killing her if she repulse ur advance after agreeing towards a few dates.

Now, BG, how should you change the above perception and make women feel comfortable enough to date you?

How does that message sound dangerous?

 

[synecdoche]

How does that message sound dangerous?

Stop writing novels to women. At one point when I was reading I thought she already was responding, but no, it was still your first message. Stop validating her so hard or pointing out common traits, you try to act too nice which gives that serial killer vibe.

Start qualifying her, make a joke about something she wrote on her profile.

I think we could keep giving tips but reading your messages it seems like nothing we told you has ever sticked so I see no point.

 

[17 shots]

Why would she keep sending me selfies though?

Spaz says you're not a troll, so I'm going to treat you like a human being now

I think that girl likes you, but she doesn't want a serious relationship with you. She'd be down to be friends and have sex sometimes, but she doesn't think you'd be able to handle that kind of relationship with her. She thinks if she gave you some kitty without commitment, you'd be crushed and heartbroken, so she wants to spare you from this future

Why is she thinking this way? Because you're coming on too strong. I know the long initial messages and drawn out conversations are getting you responses, but what you have to realize, is that when you take that approach you're sending off a signal that you're looking for love, and a serious commitment

You're not going to get into a Fwb situation with that approach, because the women who are down for that will think, well geez I don't want to break this guys heart, let me just let him down easy so he doesn't get hurt

Instead of trying to convince her of how compatible the two of you are, you need to start convincing her that you're not looking for anything serious, and that you just want to be cool with her and hang out sometimes. If you can do that, you will have a chance at banging her. Right now she's thinking, this guy wants me to be his girlfriend

Change how you're coming off to women, and you will see better results

 

[biggoal]

Spaz says you're not a troll, so I'm going to treat you like a human being now

I think that girl likes you, but she doesn't want a serious relationship with you. She'd be down to be friends and have sex sometimes, but she doesn't think you'd be able to handle that kind of relationship with her. She thinks if she gave you some kitty without commitment, you'd be crushed and heartbroken, so she wants to spare you from this future

Why is she thinking this way? Because you're coming on too strong. I know the long initial messages and drawn out conversations are getting you responses, but what you have to realize, is that when you take that approach you're sending off a signal that you're looking for love, and a serious commitment

You're not going to get into a Fwb situation with that approach, because the women who are down for that will think, well geez I don't want to break this guys heart, let me just let him down easy so he doesn't get hurt

Instead of trying to convince her of how compatible the two of you are, you need to start convincing her that you're not looking for anything serious, and that you just want to be cool with her and hang out sometimes. If you can do that, you will have a chance at banging her. Right now she's thinking, this guy wants me to be his girlfriend

Change how you're coming off to women, and you will see better results

If you saw previous text she said we could hangout and it would be fun to maybe. So how should I ask her to hangout again without sounding like I want a relationship?

 

[zinc4]

Hahaha am I only one who finds this whole threat hillarious for some reason

 

[zinc4]

For God's sakes....... stop wasting your time and energy on this woman man...she is clearly looking for an older well off financially man.

 

[MrWood]

i made a long comment to this and then decided... no.

one positive to note:
@biggoal doesnt take no for an answer because he has only what he thinks to say without regard for what other person said or stated or questioned. This will actually attract some women, but most will notice and slowly melt away into the friendzone.

help for @biggoal in text, dates etc and women in general:
Dont tell women anything about yourself unless they ask. Your replies are trying to sell and qualify yourself to them, this is not a position of confidence or masculine. You are begging for HER aproval (she should be begging for yours)

the more quiet you become, the more you hear

 

[Spaz]

How does that message sound dangerous?

Because you sound like a kid who is eager to have his candy.

When the candy is pulled away, you'd be just like a kid throwing a tantrum.

But you ain't a kid, you're a fully grown man whom in a fit of tantrum, is considered dangerous by women.

Anyway, let's forget abt this.

Let's focus on how you can mitigate all those negative perception women will have when you 1st send messages to them.

What do you think you should do towards that aim ?

 

[biggoal]

For God's sakes....... stop wasting your time and energy on this woman man...she is clearly looking for an older well off financially man.

Wouldn't they rather have a younger guy who has more stamina and testosterone and energy rather than some 55 year old guy?

 

[MrWood]

they rather have a younger guy who has more stamina and testosterone and energy rather than some 55 year old guy?

no.
They prefer a MAN who makes them laugh, leads them and is confident.

Stamina and testosterone mean very little to a woman over 30. I have more stamina sexually now than I did when I was 35 and I have even more experience.

since I was 18 I have maintained a partner count equal to or higher than my yearly age.

I said it before and will again... @biggoal I will out charm, out fvck and out game you any day of the week with a woman of any age.
They will pick me, a MAN of 54 over you... every single time.

 

[RickTheToad]

Why would she keep sending me selfies though?

Not sure. Maybe she has a screw or two loose or she likes the attention.