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Master Don Juan
Maxtro said:LOL! You've been a member since 2003 and you don't know who I am?
I'm the board's resident clueless chump.
Two things: 1) yes I've been a member here since '03, but as you can probably tell from my post count I go through phases when I post regularly and times where I won't visit the site for months or even a year.
2) Your mindset is a big reason why you fall into these confusing (to you) mazes in the first place, you have no self worth....fix that first!
How is that?
In response to my claim on it being your fault if your confused about a girl:
Its your fault BECAUSE you were either:
a) wishy washy with your intentions
b) and not confident enough
this combined leads to YOU giving off hot and cold vibes, so the girl will reciprocate what she feels. There's a big difference between a girl being "nice" and a girl being interested. But rather than explaining that all to you, I'll do it a different way:
"JUDGE WOMEN BY THEIR ACTIONS NOT THEIR WORDS!"
If you look at all these situations through THAT LENS, its clear that this particular woman is NOT interested in you romantically, but you don't seem to see those signs clearly. Instead you think a smile, a quick hug and a hello mean she's interested......she's not going to completely ignore you all the time if your in a class together. But think of it this way.....does she flake on you? YES Does she ever call you and ask you to hangout outside of class? NO
I'm not the kind of guy who seduces woman so I wouldn't know. I've also never had a GF to cheat on me.
Again you've labeled yourself as this....who's telling you that you are not capable of learning how to seduce women? No one but yourself! If this doesn't change, your results won't either.
It seems to happen pretty frequently to me. Unless the girl never was flirting and I just assumed she was.
ACTIONS.... NOT WORDS BRO. These girls are "nice" to you with their words and vanish when it comes to actions. That shows their true interest. What I think is most likely going on as I mentioned before is this: when they meet you they might be open to or interested in you. But since you have such poor self-esteem and have a lot to learn on how to game they lose interest. However they aren't going to COMPLETELY ignore you when you have a class or some other activity with them that you two see each other on a semi-regular basis. Learn what characteristics attract women and develop them. For instance......are you in decent shape? Do you even work out? Do you update your wardrobe semi-regularly? Do you have any trouble starting conversations with strangers? Etc etc.
Yeah, I think I've been in that situation. I just don't know if chicks have been interested.
Just reading your thoughts on yourself in this thread paints a clear picture of your biggest issue: self worth. The guy who scores ASSUMES interest and goes from there. The AFC over-analyzes and always looks at the glass half empty.
Eh, I don't think the girl is blameless.
Perhaps not blameless, but the majority of the blame falls on your shoulders for not being able to quickly identify women with high interest and women who are all talk. Judge actions and actions only and you won't fall into mental masturbation hell.
She shows up in dance class after missing a few sessions, I say, "Haven't seen you in a while." She looks at me smiles and hugs me. "Yeah I've been sleeping in.
After class is over.
Me: "Hey you have to come to class next week."
Her: "Yeah, I've been slacking off. Are you going to stay for the next class?"
Me: "Nope, I got to go."
She looks disappointed. Gives me a hug again. "Ok see you."
This doesn't mean jack ssssssshhhhtttt?! You think that shows interest? Better yet think about it this way.....if she had high interest in you, do you think she would constantly be sleeping in??? Exactly!
Next time I see her in class I invite her out to lunch and she says that she love to but she can only eat at the dorms since she doesn't have any money. Since I don't dorm, I'd have to pay cash to eat, and I didn't have any on me. We make plans to get lunch after the next class day.
This is called a bs excuse by her.......she's not interested dude.
Next class, she basically avoids me. Once class is over, I ask her if she still wants to go, and now she's too busy
Because prior to asking her out to lunch directly, she thought you were her class "buddy." And that's why I said it was YOUR FAULT in the beginning for not knowing the game. Not knowing how to create attraction, amplify it and get her interested. Its like making you sit through a terribly boring movie and asking you to watch it again minute by minute, scene by scene. You won't be too excited will you?? That's the same way this girl feels when you ask her out when all the groundwork before was not laid down.
In other words all the opportunities you had to create attraction were missed by you because of a fundamental lack of understanding how flirting 101 works.
Was she interested, leading me on, clueless? I have no idea.
She thought of you as a friend, thought you looked at her the same way. Then when you asked her out to lunch it freaked her out a bit because she realized you were interested romantically and she is now retreating.....where's the confusing behavior on her part???
I would love to take that course. Hell it should be taught in high school as well.
Well the good news is you CAN take that course, by going out in the field and messing up. Coming back here and getting answers to where your steering off course to LEARN from your mistakes. That's how every single legendary ladies man did it and your not different. To get better you have to go through the learning curve. Some pick it up right away, others take a bit longer. But by no means is it virgin misery for you......your still young. Be glad your not married with 2 kids and miserably dying a little each day.
I've managed to get this old without figuring out the basics and with the rate I'm going, I don't know if I ever will.
Your not trying hard enough to learn. Your very safe, when was the last time you cold approached a few random women? I'm guessing a long time ago or never. How can you "score" when you only have a random shot once every few months. This is a game where repeated activity breeds success. And the best thing about life is with age and experience comes wisdom which constantly helps you to improve how you present yourself to others and how efficient you become at it.
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