Girls ends our casual relationship, now I want to talk and keep it going.

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Girls ends our casual relationship...one more talk to keep it going?

First a little bit of context...(sorry for the length)

When I first moved back to NYC in late June, I met a pretty girl from Africa almost right away (late June)

To make a long story short, we saw each other and banged once or twice a week for about three months. She clearly wanted something more serious, and made this clear to me one month in, but said she was willing to keep things casual since I told her I was not into a relationship. Meanwhile, I was seeing other girls, and got a couple of other bangs in there. The truth is this African girl was great GF material on paper, she was a bit older than me (25) had a masters degree and was on her way to a good career; speaks several languages, very well read, pretty, etc. But I don't know, something was just not doing it for me. I think I am honestly into more modest girls, and that she really was not. In fact she was sort of obsessed with herself.
Anyway, after having gone on dates with over 5 or 6 girls throughout the summer, I finally started seeing this girl in early August that I really liked. I was upstate visiting our college town for the weekend. (we went to the same school but didn’t know each) we went on a date on a Thursday, and by Saturday, we had sex.
Meanwhile, the contact between me and this African girls was slipping away. I am trying to hang out with her (cause I think that's what she wants) and she keep canceling. Finally she tells me its over, in part cause I was too absent and cause she started sort of seeing someone else.

At this point, i'm not really bumped out because I am really into this other girl, but I do realize this leaves me with only one secure P*ssy option.

Skip ahead to early October… me and this girl have been seeing each other for two months. Things seem really nice. I have been making most of the initiations to hang out, but she makes some as well. I do get a sense maybe that I am feeling it more than her, but she still is hitting me up and seems pretty interested. She also stays at my house a couple times (more banging)

We see each other three weeks ago, then I was away that weekend. She can't hang out during the week cause of her new job and her long commute. She's also sick. Then the following weekend she doesn't hit me up, I don't hit her up either because I don't want to initiate the hang out again.

The next week, I ask to hang on Tuesday, she's says no, how about Friday, I say fine (though the truth is I missed seeing her and wanted to see her sooner)

Then Thursday she texts me saying she's sorry but she cannot continue with me, she's met someone else. I'm really angry and upset. We talk the next day on the phone, she tells me that was a lie, she has not met anyone else, she just doesn't want to get into a relationship and feels that is where this is going. Because I was initially so relieved to hear she hasn't started seeing someone else, I kind of lay down and take it and say, "I understand" though I also articulate my confusion over what has changed which she says she understands.

Now, I have her shoes which she left at my house a while back, and she has my pants (which she kindly offered to patch up weeks ago when things were going well). We have a plan to meet briefly this week, primarily to exchange these items. I am reluctant in some ways to meet with her because I might come across as very vulnerable. But I want to offer her up another possibility, something along the lines of, “I know you're not looking for a relationship, I agree things escalated too fast between us” (which they did, things got romantic fast, I mean), and essentially offer that we still hangout once in a while, as more then friends but without the pressure of starting a relationship, which she felt existed before. Basically, its another way of saying let’s continue to bang and hang out. I know this could seem like a bad idea since I clearly like her, but I also have my own doubts about starting a relationship, and if I realize she won’t be into that, I think I can prevent myself from becoming really attached.

What do you think I should do?
 
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No! No! NO!!

Dude. What you did wrong? I'll tell you. YOU STOPPED BEING A CHALLENGE!

You let her sleep over? for the fcuk of what? more poossy? it's simple. You can extend a poossy over a good amount of time or take all of it in one night. Guess which one you went for? If you treat her like a plate you could possibly pull off having her spend the night but why would you want to? Let her crave for you.

Not to be hard on you bro, we all make our mistakes.

With African girl, both of you went NC for too long without fcuk sessions inbetween cant blame her she jumped on another available deek.

With school girl, you became too available, remember you're supposed to do 2/3 of what she does REGARDLESS of how head over heels you are.

You being boyfriendy made their IL go too low. Don't act like a boyfriend when she's not your girlfriend.

As to meeting up, fcuk that sheet, you dont have time for that, you're too busy fcuking beaches. You can buy another pant and she can buy another pair of shoes.

Go out meet more potentials and NEVER EVER offer to see her once a week, WTF dude. You's too busy for that.

You grew oneitis baaad bro!

If there's a small chance of you fcuking her again then dump her. Forget about her. Move on.

Go NC immediately.

Let her know you're NOT looking for a relationship just enjoying yourself.

Be ready to walk the fcuk away. These will maybe spike her IL and maybe you might get a chance to fcuk her one day
 
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Ok, all good, I agree, that is what happened.

But…if we are meeting up, which already is the plan (I do want my pants and she does want her shoes) shouldn't I maybe make an effort to express exactly what you wrote at the end of your post.

stevo said:
Let her know you're NOT looking for a relationship just enjoying yourself.
That way, maybe can still see her (def. less than once a week) and get some bangs in there.

…Or, I could call off the meeting and suggest we just mail each other the stuff.
 

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stevo said:
You let her sleep over? for the fcuk of what? more poossy? it's simple. You can extend a poossy over a good amount of time or take all of it in one night.

Also...
I am new to this site and this forum, could you elaborate? I mean the first time we slept together, she asked if I would stay at her place. The second time she asked if she could stay at my place (in part because she lives 1 hr 1/2 commute away by public transport). Would you have suggested staving off the poosy for longer (telling her she couldn't sleep over) in order to have more later. I do understand what you're saying in that when I let her sleep over, I got too close to her and treated almost like a gf. But how long should one hold off on the sleepover when the vaggy is clearly on the table?
 

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Should have stayed with the African girl. New girl sounds terrible.
 

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Johnnymahoe said:
That way, maybe can still see her (def. less than once a week) and get some bangs in there.
This is what you need to lose. The expectation of something with her. You wanting more. Literally let her go!

It's an action thing not words. Don't say nothing to her. Forget about her. Spike her curiosity.

I'd say just forget the pants/shoe bro but if you really wanna exchange stuff then mail is better

Just not exchanging is pretty bad ass and something she won't expect. If you mail it to her it's like you're burtt hurt and can't control yourself if you see her (works against you). If you do see her, you're being available. Works against you.
 

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Johnnymahoe said:
I understand what you're saying in that when I let her sleep over, I got too close to her and treated almost like a gf. But how long should one hold off on the sleepover when the vaggy is clearly on the table?
If she had to ride over an hour to fcuk that there increases your value. If you are so considerate letting her spend the night when she's not your girlfriend, that's being the nice guy, kills interest level. It lets her know she's your only/main option.

Keep in mind though spending the night wasn't the deal breaker, it's a series of actions you did, this just took it over the top.

In simple English. She's gone. Move on.
 

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She's gone. Don't lower yourself by suggesting hooking up again. She's trying to let you down easy and doesn't want to break your heart.
Cheerfully grab your pants, give her her shoes, say thanks, smile broadly and walk away.
 
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