Girls and Fights

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Nighthawk
I can't believe that some of you know any women at all, especially attractive ones. If you do you'll know they get uninvited hassle off creepy men on a regular basis.

And why the f*ck do you want women to not dress sexily? Are you fricking gay?

You're wasting your time. This guy is either a troll or a complete idiot.

What the guy did to me was sexual assault and it was my right to get him off me in any way I could. If it was his mother in the bar getting a drink and some guy came up behind her and did to her what he did to me this moron wouldn't have a problem with her hitting him in the head with a beer mug and knocking him out.

He's looking for any reason he can to justify a strange man in a bar committing a sexual assault against a woman. He's insisting that I caused it somehow by flirting with him, talking to him or dressing provocatively. I didn't flirt, talk or even make eye contact with this guy. I was wearing jeans and a top that wasn't revealing at all. I have big boobs and am pretty. As a result I have had to deal with these kinds of advances eversince I was about 13 years old. I am allowed to protect and defend myself against sexual assault. That is my right. No man has the right to put their hands on me against my will. I did nothing wrong. The man who grabbed me and pinned me against the bar is the one who broke the law and violated my rights. He got what he deserved. Period.

 

[Iamnotacrook]

Yes, there are guys in bars who you don't even know or talk to DO think they can grab you when you walk past them.

Oh, I wasn't paying enough attention. Naturally, I don't hang out in bars. "Losers do that."

if a guy grabs me or acts like an idiot in that way not only will I hit him, I'll file sexual assault charges too.

I, myself, wouldn't blame you for that reaction, I'd blame you for putting yourself in that situation at this point. Hitting him with a beer mug is fair game. Don't laugh, though, or you're a man-beater. By the way, hitting him with a beer mug? DID NOT make him any better a man. If that was your goal, you failed. However, if you meant to set an example for others in attendance, you succeeded. Hope that puts things into perspective.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Iamnotacrook
Oh, I wasn't paying enough attention. Naturally, I don't hang out in bars. "Losers do that."

SOME people who go to bars would qualify as "losers"...however, not everyone who stops into a bar once in awhile is a "loser". If someone hangs out in bars every night getting drunk, then yeah, there's a good chance they're a loser. If someone meets a few friends for a drink or two on a Friday night to listen to a band or play pool...then NO, they are not "losers". They are just going out and socializing. Doing that does NOT give anyone the right to sexually assault you.

I, myself, wouldn't blame you for that reaction, I'd blame you for putting yourself in that situation at this point.

That kind of attitude is so out of line it's not even funny. "Putting myself" in WHAT situation? Going to a small local bar with some friends to listen to one of them play in a band? Wearing jeans and a non-revealing blouse? Having the audacity to walk up to the bar and order a beer? Hell, I almost never even drink and on the rare occassion that I do I only have one or two and only if I'm not driving. I almost never go to bars, either. It's not like I dressed like a street walker, threw myself at anyone or was drunk. I had JUST walked in and was getting ONE damn beer. I was there to listen to a friend's band play along with a group of friends. Jesus H. Christ...

Hitting him with a beer mug is fair game. Don't laugh, though, or you're a man-beater.

I didn't laugh. HE laughed at what he was doing to me. I smiled (more of a pissed off smirk) long enough to distract him and let him have it. I did NOT think it was funny at all. I was furious and felt violated.

By the way, hitting him with a beer mug? DID NOT make him any better a man. If that was your goal, you failed. However, if you meant to set an example for others in attendance, you succeeded. Hope that puts things into perspective.

It might not have made him a "better man"...but I'm sure it will make him think twice before groping anyone else...and you can bet he'll never try to do it to me again. Nor will anyone else who was there that night. I'd say it was a very effective deterrent. And my ultimate goal was to get the nasty b@stard OFF me. I succeeded.

It's unwise to assume that a woman is doing something to invite such lecherous behavior from anyone. I don't care if a woman is dressed provocatively or where she is. NO man has ANY right to do what that guy did to me. There is NO excuse and THAT is all there is to it. Period.

 

[john_x]

Originally posted by Wyldfire

It might not have made him a "better man"...but I'm sure it will make him think twice before groping anyone else...and you can bet he'll never try to do it to me again.

are you insane?
your right, it would take a ****ed up type of guy to just walk up to you in a bar and do that!!! but :
(and you can bet he'll never try to do it to me again.)

no he will not see you in a bar and walked up to you,, he may how ever wait until you leave and have you out side where there is no one to help,as he now most likely feels he has the right to get his own back
doutfull you will ever see him again,but if u do i dout he is gona think oh cant go near her,, he will most likely get very pissed off at the site of you

hope it works out for you anyway

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by john_x

Originally posted by Wyldfire

It might not have made him a "better man"...but I'm sure it will make him think twice before groping anyone else...and you can bet he'll never try to do it to me again.

are you insane?
your right, it would take a ****ed up type of guy to just walk up to you in a bar and do that!!! but :
(and you can bet he'll never try to do it to me again.)

no he will not see you in a bar and walked up to you,, he may how ever wait until you leave and have you out side where there is no one to help,as he now most likely feels he has the right to get his own back
doutfull you will ever see him again,but if u do i dout he is gona think oh cant go near her,, he will most likely get very pissed off at the site of you

hope it works out for you anyway

This happened about 8 years ago. I doubt he even remembers what I look like. My guess is that he was pretty drunk and wouldn't even remember what I looked like in the first place. And even if he did and tried to attack me...he wouldn't have an easy time of it. I used to work with mentally ill and violent patients. I am fully trained in defending myself against attacks...even much larger and stronger men.

 

[john_x]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
This happened about 8 years ago. I doubt he even remembers what I look like. My guess is that he was pretty drunk and wouldn't even remember what I looked like in the first place. And even if he did and tried to attack me...he wouldn't have an easy time of it. I used to work with mentally ill and violent patients. I am fully trained in defending myself against attacks...even much larger and stronger men.

so why did you say if you hit him with your hand it wouldt have had much effect,if your fully trained for that kind of thing, i belive you could have droped him with out use of the glass, or did you used to glass the mental patients

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Yes, I WAS justified in knocking his ass out. He was NOT justified in touching me and pinning me against the bar. I couldn't just "walk away" because I was pinned against the bar. Contrary to what you might think...when some strange guy touches you sexually it IS extremely upsetting and you DO feel threatened and frightened. Again...I was ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED in hitting him to get him off me.

pinned against the bar? to get pinned hed have to hold you with both his arms so that you could not move away, if you had room to grab a mug and swing it hard enough to knock him out cold, you were not "pinned"

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Actually, I DID tell him to leave me alone after he grabbed me. That's when he pressed up against me and pinned me to the bar...laughing. That's when I smiled at him and belted him with the beer mug. Even if I hadn't told him to leave me alone it was HIM who assumed that it was his right to touch me. It was him that pinned me against the bar. So...it was him that found himself picking himself up off the floor. There was nothing unjust about how I handled it.

least force neccesary, pushing him off or kneeing him in the nuts would be less force and more of a lesson,
and dont tell me you were afraid that he would never had children again
or that maybe youd push him into another person
you just reacted in a violent manner.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
If I were a guy then he would not have sexually assaulted me and pinned me up against the bar so that I couldn't get away from him. Telling him to leave me alone didn't make him leave me alone. I had three choices. I could have allowed him to violate me and just let him sexually assault me. I could have called out for help from some guy to step in on my behalf. I could have hit him. I hit him. If I had of hit him with just my hand it would not have been effective in getting him off me. In fact, it could have led to me being hurt by him. In a situation like that where you are at a severe physical disadvantage...if you are going to hit to defend yourself you need to make it count. That's what I did.

And again...I would not have gotten into any trouble for what I did. The guy had me PINNED against the bar and wouldn't let me move. His intent was to continue with what he was doing...committing a sexual assault against me. I did NOT intend to hurt him. I intended to get away from him. When an indictment is considered, the INTENT is looked at.

If I were a guy and reacted as I did to some dude grabbing me and pinning me against the bar none of you would see anything at all wrong with what I did. Sorry guys...but just because some men think they should be given a pass for doing something like this to a woman or think it's "no big deal"...I have news for you...it IS a big deal. I should be able to walk up to the bar and get a drink without some idiot putting his hands on my body and trying to force himself on me in a sexual way. I"m not going to apologize or be made to feel in any way guilty for protecting myself against a sexual assault.

ok, first of all from what you describe the guy was drunk off his ass, so the force it took to hit him in the head with a beer mug to knock him our cold could have easily been the same force used to push this guy off his feet (drunk guy, no balance) or kneed him in the balls, in either situation he would be too embarrased to hit you back since as you say, EVERYONE IS WATCHING. ( about a dozen witnesses ? )

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
One night around 10pm while I was sitting on my front steps a guy jumped out of the bushes bare bollocky ass naked and started cuffing his puppy in my direction. I was wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt and didn't have any makeup on and my hair was in a ponytail...hardly provocative dress..

and the other day your daughter threw a guy off your balconey for touching her boob, howd he get on the balconey?
LOL
any moer stories for us.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by john_x
so why did you say if you hit him with your hand it wouldt have had much effect,if your fully trained for that kind of thing, i belive you could have droped him with out use of the glass, or did you used to glass the mental patients

good point
wyldfire talks a lot of ****.

 

[thissucks003]

Not Me

This chick beats up a dude. I don't know if this is her boyfriend or husband.

Here it is:

http://bob.bangedup.com/archives/beatdownwhoopinass.wmv