Girls acts interested buy dosn't get physical or kiss on the first date

[PianoGuy33]

What do you guys think about a girl who acts interested but totally refuses to get physical, like any kino, or kiss on the first date. She says that we should hang out again, and it seemed like we had a lot of chemistry too, but she has like 1000 walls of china up around her psychology lol. She's a HB 9 for sure.

 

[Demonpenz]

next

 

[ARrocket]

What exactly do you mean by 'no kino'?

Some girls just don't move that fast physically. No matter what some super duper pick up alpha god might preach, she can like you AND not kiss you on the first date.

The question is: Do YOU like HER enough to move slowly? If not, you know what to do.

Oh, but don't let it get too carried away. If you're not making progress physically on each date, you're wasting your time. It's not about reaching a goal (make-out, f-close, etc) within a certain time frame, it's about constantly moving towards that goal, no matter what the pace is. If the pace is too slow for your liking, you'll just have to find a different girl.

 

[Fatal Jay]

What do you guys think about a girl who acts interested but totally refuses to get physical, like any kino, or kiss on the first date. She says that we should hang out again, and it seemed like we had a lot of chemistry too, but she has like 1000 walls of china up around her psychology lol. She's a HB 9 for sure.

you messed up, she is not interested bro especially if she "refuses"

put it like this.......would she refuse with denzel Washington or Justin timberlake, no because she is actually have high interest in that person....sounds like you have a lot to learn, good luck, and oh yeah next this girl.

 

[BeDJ]

Update this thread with a report on the first date.

 

[PianoGuy33]

Actually guys, she just texted me and told me that she had a great time last night, with a little smiley face. I think it's like arocket said, sometimes you just gotta be patient if you think it's worth it. I do like her enough to move slowly. We basically went out to dinner and then went back to my place and just talked the whole time, until late into the night, then I took her home, and that was that. I made a couple advances but she acted up-tight and nervous so I stopped.

 

[Fatal Jay]

Actually guys, she just texted me and told me that she had a great time last night, with a little smiley face. I think it's like arocket said, sometimes you just gotta be patient if you think it's worth it. I do like her enough to move slowly. We basically went out to dinner and then went back to my place and just talked the whole time, until late into the night, then I took her home, and that was that. I made a couple advances but she acted up-tight and nervous so I stopped.

if that's the case, then stop waiting on her, and just take it, take the kiss and take the touching

girls actually like that to be honest

 

[BeDJ]

Never take out a woman to dinner on the first date, even if she insists. If she said she hasn't eaten anything, tell her this place has amazing appetizers. Drinks on the first date should be a default. Most women have an uneasy feeling on first dates (ie: does he like me? What is he looking for? etc.) Have her loosen up for you.

Moving slowly will work against you 90% of the time. What were the contexts of your advances? It wouldn't make sense for her to go back to your place if she was uncomfortable. If anything, I would say you didn't escalate enough or time the advances right. Did you go in for a kiss at any point?

You are heading towards the friendzone.

 

[zekko]

The question is: Do YOU like HER enough to move slowly? If not, you know what to do.

Yeah, it just depends on what you're looking for. Honestly, I'm amazed how impatient many guys in the community are. They think you are a big failure if you don't have her begging you to shoot sperm on her face within a few hours of meeting her. They don't want to invest any time or effort into a woman. Some girls need a little more time to get comfortable with you, I don't see what's so tragic about that.

 

[JohnChops]

Yeah, it just depends on what you're looking for. Honestly, I'm amazed how impatient many guys in the community are. They think you are a big failure if you don't have her begging you to shoot sperm on her face within a few hours of meeting her. They don't want to invest any time or effort into a woman. Some girls need a little more time to get comfortable with you, I don't see what's so tragic about that.

gold.

 

[nismo-4]

Judge by actions, not words. Judge nismo says.

If she wants to go slow, that's a problem. Would a woman go slow with a man she REALLY likes? Nope. Would she tell Brad Pitt that she wants to take it slow? F**k no.

In reality, she's comparing you to her other options. If she refuses to get physical yet she acts interested, she's an attention wh0re. Go ghost on this girl.

Case closed. Exit stage left.

 

[BeDJ]

Zekko,


I agree with you to an extent. It is not black and white as trying to go for the first date fυck. Most men would be head over heels if given the opportunity and are praised. However, society discourages women from that sort of behavior. Being viewed as a slυt would probably be congruent to a man being deadbeat. That's why the "3 date rule" exists. Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm sure as hell a man did not create it. Women enjoy sex as much as a man, but have to follow societal "rules."

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It’s sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to ƒuck you will find a way to ƒuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck the shît out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work – women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck. The girl who tells you she needs to be comfortable and wants a relationship first is the same girl who ƒucked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break just half an hour after meeting him.

If a girl is that into you she’ll have sex with you regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sluts, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek at the end of the night, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.

With that being said, you must gauge her interests level. Women will not tell you directly so cues in her body language will have to do. Sadly, most guys aren't experienced to pick up on the subtle clues. Escalation allows you to see how receptive she is and plants in her mind that you want her sexually. Not that you are trying to get the first date fυck, but you clearly convey this is not a date as friends. If she does not respond to your escalation, she has low interested in you. She could have been wanting to get out of the house or a free meal. Young women control the dating market. Younger and inexperienced men are more likely to be duped in the dating scene, whether they realize it or not.

 

[zekko]

Being viewed as a slυt would probably be congruent to a man being deadbeat. That's why the "3 date rule" exists. Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm sure as hell a man did not create it. Women enjoy sex as much as a man, but have to follow societal "rules."

I actually do think that men have had a hand in the creation of the "3 date rule". I know most guys around here are simply looking for a quick and easy lay. But the fact is easy, slutty women are not valued by men, or at least have not been valued traditionally. What is that they say about "a lock that can be opened by many keys is worthless"? A woman who gives it out to anyone who wants it is not going to be valued by men, or society. I would even argue it is not in their own best interest, although I agree women like sex as much as men do, more or less.

Having said that, I agree that a woman with high interest will give it up quickly. The only thing is, if you've only known a girl for five minutes, why should she have high interest in you to that extent? I'd almost say that's a red flag in itself. There's a difference between a completely cold pickup and a girl who has kind of known you, has been an acquaintance, or even part of your social circle.

 

[GotED?]

I actually do think that men have had a hand in the creation of the "3 date rule". .

I agree with Zekko mostly - I have had girlfriends who later down the road in the relationship revisit with me why she behaved the way she did in the beginning (such as the OP said, no physical contact, kisses, etc).

The '3 date rule' saying that by the third date a woman has to put out is feared by a lot of women, and the women/girls you men on here complain 'where did the good ones go' are actually the ones who REFUSED to swallow your albino tadpoles on the first date. If you are looking for LTR, would you actually WANT to get serious with a woman who DOES romp it out with you on the first, second, or third date??

My past girlfriends had revealed that they just were not interest in a quick lay or ONS. So there you are: Women who refuses to go fast initially are probably more than likely women who wants something meaninful and long lasting with you. If you don't like that type, then NEXT. However, if you have whined about and posted about where are the good ones?? And you complain also why they don't drop your pants automatically on the first date; you then have some serious psychological impairement.

Good luck.

With Respect,

Exodus

 

[azrael]

There is slow and there is slow.

i think OP should go on a second date, and escalate
if he goes slow out of fear of losing the girl, he will.

in the second date he should at least kiss her/ make out.

 

[pinkfl]

Some of the men on here have made great points.

"Women who refuses to go fast initially are probably more than likely women who wants something meaninful and long lasting with you. If you don't like that type, then NEXT. However, if you have whined about and posted about where are the good ones?? And you complain also why they don't drop your pants automatically on the first date has a serious psychological impairement."

This is exactly the case.

You aren't "off your game" or anything like that either. You need to take it slow, think with your brain, and decide if she's what you are looking for. If, however, you are interested in notches in your belt, then she's just not your type of girl.

 

[BeDJ]

If the first date ends up in a fυck, whatever happens - happens. I am not advocating to next women that don't put out the first date. If the man is intentionally withholding sex, that's a different story. However, if you have been out on a few dates and she tells you to wait while you're both naked in bed, something is amiss. Maybe she won't have sex until a relationship, until marriage, until meeting her parents, until Christmas, until whatever reason. Then, sex no longer happens naturally, instead, it's a negotiation - on her terms. Sex is now a reward and she will be using that to control the relationship.

I can see the premises that good quality women don't rush into sex. In contrast, damaged women who don't put out early due to past experiences would also have a valid argument.

 

[GotED?]

I can see the premises that good quality women don't rush into sex. In contrast, damaged women who don't put out early due to past experiences would also have a valid argument.

Great point made here - there INDEED is a fine line between the underlying motive of a woman going slow due to being QUALITY or CRAZY (control-freak).

You will need to use your experiences and best judgement to decide for yourself if it is worth finding out which type of woman it is... :woo: :woo: :woo:

With respect,

Exodus

 

[PianoGuy33]

Thanks guys, I appreciate all of the feedback. I'm gonna ask her out again for this weekend. At the moment, she seems like she's worth the wait, but we'll see what happens. I'll keep you all posted.

 

[PianoGuy33]

Okay guys, so here where the story stands. Please share the advice. After she text me that she had a great time last night . I then responded "Ya me too, lets do it again next time we're both free." She didn't respond to that though. 3 days later I called her (last night) and she didn't answer. I left a message asking her how the beginning of her week was, and I also made a joke about the formality of her answer machine. I said "wow you're answering machine is very formal, it's kinda funny." She never called me back that night though, and I'm wondering if she will. My question is, if a girl texts you the next day after your first date saying that she had a great time, that means she's interested. She also told me she wanted to hang out again during the date. So then why wouldn't she call back after I called last night? and what should I do, because I wanted to take her out this weekend? Thanks guys, hope all is well.