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OP, this is NOT acceptable, man. Chat, yeah, ok, you can let that slide, but going with him on a date-type meeting is not right. That is not only a dis to you but a slap in the face to the relationship. It's amazing how these girls, especially the "sweet" ones justify things they wanna do.

"All I did was give him a quick blowie because the poor guy was so, so depressed, it was all so innocent!"

I would just tell her that if she goes to lunch with her ex it would truly bother me and I would think less of her because of it, with an outcome of the relationship ending.

Fück that shıt, there is no need for her to hang with her ex. Since when are you an instant third wheel to your own relationship? Did you sign up for a love triangle drama situation? Most likely no.

The choice is yours ultimately, let us know how it turned out.

Good luck.
 

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In10se said:
Yeah so I overreacted and blew things totally up, which I shouldn't have...I guess? I don't really know one part of me says that she feels for the dude, which is total bull**** in my mind, but the sex is quality and I have some feelings so I guess I'll work through it and let it be.
In10se how old are you any ways?

what was her reaction like ?


this might set the tone for the rest of your relationship with her


you need to control your self stay clam and cool



(Yeah so I overreacted and blew things totally up)
You can't focus on prior accomplishments or failures, you must only focus on the present and doing the best on the next discussion.

let her get up set then ask her why is she so worked up
 

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Thats usually what I do, I haven't started a single fight with her for the 6 months we've known each other...its always been her getting upset about things and me asking what the problem is.

Apparently they never went out to eat, but she says its completely fine for them to do that if I trust her. My response was that its not OK because its disrespectful to me and our relationship and there is absolutely no reason for that to be happening. Basically she realizes that she can't be friends with this guy anymore and she has told me countless times I'm the only one she cares about, but it sure as **** doesn't come across that way.

Actions speak louder than words.
 

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Hey SoSuave, its been a long while since I posted here, because I found a pretty amazing girlfriend. We have been seeing each other for 6 months now and officially dating for 2 months, so I am pretty happy. However there is one issue that has been bothering me and I'd like your input.

See my GF has only had 1 boyfriend before me in highschool and they dated for 2 years (she is 19). He went to the marines, I don't know the exact circumstances of their breakup, but I found out he came home recently and they "talk as friends". My hunch tells me that he still has feelings for her which is why he tries to reach out and talk to her, but she claims it is strictly as friends and he has had another girlfriend since (that looked like her :/).

I have expressed that I trust her, and that it irritates me that they talk, but at the same time I can't be the overbearing boyfriend that dictates who she can talk to.

How do I handle this? A big part of me, thinks the best way, although underhanded is to keylog her facebook password and snoop around a bit to see if I am getting duped. As a sidenote she also snapchats him. Its a tough situation, because this girl expresses genuine love for me and buys me nice things and always wants to talk to me,so I don't know. What do you guys think?

just be prepared for anything and try to meet other women on the side...and never listen to what comes out of a woman's mouth...only listen to her actions...so far her actions seem a little mixed to me
 
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Well apparently they have been broken up for about a year now and he tried to get back with her and she said no, because he was too controlling and they stopped getting along. She claims she loves me and only me, and is fully devoted to me. So whatever, its a good thing shes a great girlfriend, the sex is phenomenal and she's horny always, why ruin it? Im going to at least ride out the winter and then when summer rolls around see where we are.
 

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Either find your self a girl friend to hang out with (with her knowledge) to give her a taste of her own medicine, or tell her you are downgrading her.

When her jaw drops and she asks why, tell her that since she has decided to date other men, you cannot possibly hold her in the same regard, just as she wouldn't be able to.

This is why I always say that women are amoral and selfish to the core. Why would she not know that if the situation were reversed she would freak out? Because all her life she was taught that she is a special princess and that rules don't apply to her.
Great post especially the last paragraph.

Anytime a girl reaches out to an ex is because she isn't over him

You shouldn't put up with this

Start talking with other girls
 

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Update on this situation, so this is how she explained it...she flat out said "she will always talk to him, sometimes more sometimes less". It was a tough break up and she has come a long way in the healing process. I'm just trying to learn as much from this experience as I can so I know what to look for in the future.

Do you guys think you should never bother with girls who still talk to their exes? I mean they text probably every other day, from what I see mostly bull**** like "hey hows class, how much did you make at work". But there has to be an angle here. Maybe the guy isn't over her and clings to it?

Basically how do you handle the girl that isn't over the ex when emotions have already gotten intense. She sometimes gets pretty worked up when I go to certain clubs without her, I'm not a cheater, and I don't have any girl from my past who is significant enough to talk to, to show her a firsthand comparison.
 

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One final thing that she said that I just remembered...she talks to him sometimes because "he understands her and sees eye to eye with her" and she "yearns for me to understand her". Sounds like emotional cheating to me but how the F do I respond to that? The kid knew her for years I've known her for like 8 months.
 

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Sounds like the beginning of the end for you, actually....
 

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Yeah but at the same time she says she has never loved/felt this intensely for anyone before about me.

Its a very hard situation, because I am in the same boat as all the guys on this website, who have seen the bullsh!t women pull and have limited trust. I have never been cheated on, but I know their emotions override logic, and its hard to trust women bc of that.

On a side note I have taken a step back and realize this relationship will take its course, and I will learn from it as much as I can, but what does "understand her" really mean? Fulfill her emotionally? I think I am pretty good at maintaining a rollercoaster between happy/love to jealousy, to dominance, to some frustration/sadness. Overall we do love being around each other though.
 

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"understand her" means let her do what she wants, without questioning it.

This kinda seems like a lose/lose because if you don't let her go see him, she'll be pissed, and if she does go see him you know she's gonna get feelings again.

I understand why girls talk to their exes, especially their firsts, but it's not ok for them to do it.

Still, at least she told you. Most girls do it without even "considering" it something to mention.
 

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In10se said:
See my GF has only had 1 boyfriend before me in highschool and they dated for 2 years (she is 19).

How do I handle this? A big part of me, thinks the best way, although underhanded is to keylog her facebook password and snoop around a bit to see if I am getting duped. What do you guys think?
This is the precise situation I was in when I first started dating the 21 year old in 2011. She was 19 and had only had one boyfriend for many years prior. You'd much prefer this than to think she was flitting from guy to guy every month. It's one or the other generally.

I wasn't in a committed relationship so some of this might not apply, but here are some lessons I learned:

1) If you see a photo of him, tell her he's a good looking guy. This compliments her taste. She'll love you for it.
2) Encourage her to talk about what she loved most about him - she will associate those feelings with you.
3) Drop subtle hints that erode her image of him. "He might be too young for you..." and don't be surprised if you hit a nerve and she freaks out. It's ok because later on she will come back to you and parrot exactly what you said. "He was too young for me...". Don't say "Why didn't I think of that?" - let her think it was HER idea.
4) Never try to insult him or she will dump you on the spot.
5) Know that she will always have a place in her heart for him. This is a good thing. Sweet girls are like that. You want her to speak highly of you someday also.
6) Be patient. The day will come when he finally shatters her image of him. In my case it was because he asked her to borrow money! And that was after she had dumped him months earlier but was still fond of him. She never mentioned him again and that was months ago.
7) She might need a rebound relationship (other than you) when she dumps him - it's ok because the rebound never lasts. Just give her the time she needs but stay close to her. If you manage to stay in her life (romantically) despite the major transition, she will naturally have some attachment to you. Especially don't pressure her to commit to you. She needs to be single and free first.
8) Once she's over him, if she has a rebound guy, remind her that she doesn't like the new guy as much as she liked the old guy (she might say you are the only one she ever admitted that to).
9) The milestone will come when you find her blowing off the other guy to be with you and not the other way around. True for all babes as they always have a guy who has the upper hand over you when you first meet. It has to be her idea.
10) Be the guy who never pesters her - let the other guy(s) be texting her off the hook while you are nowhere to be found. Every time her phone buzzes she'll wish it was you and they'll start to annoy her.
11) Be sure to factor out any anger and jealousy, instead going distant during times when she seems less responsive. By letting her text you, and going 5-10-20 days in between without sweating it, you can maintain the upper hand.
12) You must have something clearly better than the other guy(s) going for you to be considered.
13) Plan your events well, but never make the date look rehearsed - things like setting the table before she comes over can be a turn-off to some girls, sadly.
14) Know that when she ends it with him she will end it with a whole crowd of their common friends and she could go through a major transition. This might make her less stable and she might turn into her own opposite. That is, except you will be that constant force in her life. If you can survive such a major metamorphosis (something she'll only go through once or twice in her life), you'll be close for a long time if not for life. Her truly letting go of her first love will be such a metamorphosis, trust me.
15) Know that there are 10 other guys in line behind him besides you. Just focus on constantly improving yourself and it time you will emerge as her best option overall.
 
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My heart goes out to you I feel your pain

there's no easy way to tell you this whatever you choose to do is gonna hurt like hell but you can't sit around and wait for the other shoe to drop
what she is doing to you is not fair she is selfish and inconsiderate
she wants it all but love is about sacrifice

"It was a tough break up and she has come a long way in the healing process'
'. tell her to grow the **** up people break up everyday
ask her why she's still living in the pass when she will have a great future with you she gonna have to pick one hopefully its the one with you

"he understands her and sees eye to eye with her"
that quote is very disrespectful to what your trying to build with her

ask her what's point of having you around since you don't understands
maybe your just her fu(k toy
 

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bigneil said:
This is the precise situation I was in when I first started dating the 21 year old in 2011. She was 19 and had only had one boyfriend outside the club for many years prior. You'd much prefer this than to think she was flitting from guy to guy every month. It's one or the other generally.

Some tips:

1) If you see a photo of him, tell her he's a good looking guy. This compliments her taste. She'll love you for it.
2) Encourage her to talk about what she loved most about him - she will associate those feelings with you.
3) Drop subtle hints that erode her image of him. "He might be too young for you..." and don't be surprised if you hit a nerve and she freaks out. It's ok because later on she will come back to you and parrot exactly what you said. "He was too young for me...". Don't say "Why didn't I think of that?" - let her think it was HER idea.
4) Never try to insult him or she will dump you on the spot.
5) Know that she will always have a place in her heart for him. This is a good thing. Sweet girls are like that. You want her to speak highly of you someday also.
6) Be patient. The day will come when he finally shatters her image of him. In my case it was because he asked her to borrow money! And that was after she had dumped him months earlier but was still fond of him. She never mentioned him again and that was months ago.
7) She might need a rebound relationship (other than you) when she dumps him - it's ok because the rebound never lasts. Just give her the time she needs but stay close to her. If you manage to stay in her life (romantically) despite the major transition, she will naturally have some attachment to you.
8) Once she's over him, if she has a rebound guy, remind her that she doesn't like the new guy as much as she liked the old guy (she might say you are the only one she ever admitted that to).
9) The milestone will come when you find her blowing off the other guy to be with you and not the other way around. True for all babes as they always have a guy who has the upper hand over you when you first meet. It has to be her idea.
10) Be the guy who never pesters her - let the other guy(s) be texting her off the hook while you are nowhere to be found. Every time her phone buzzes she'll wish it was you and they'll start to annoy her.
11) Be sure to factor out any anger and jealousy, instead going distant during times when she seems less responsive. By letting her text you, and going 5-10-20 days in between without sweating it, you can maintain the upper hand.
12) You must have something clearly better than the other guy(s) going for you to be considered.
13) Plan your events well, but never make the date look rehearsed - things like setting the table when she comes over can be a turn-off to some girls, sadly.
14) Know that when she ends it with him she will end it with a whole crowd of their common friends and she could go through a major transition. This might make her less stable and she might turn into her own opposite. That is, except you will be that constant force in her life. If you can survive such a major metamorphosis (something she'll only go through once or twice in her life), you'll be close for a long time if not for life.
15) Know that there are 10 other guys in line behind him besides you. Just focus on constantly improving yourself and it time you will emerge as her best option overall.

:trouble: YOU MUST OF LOST YOUR HEAD :trouble:

WHY ARE YOU TELLING DUDE TO BE AN AFC

IT AIN'T HARD TO TELL THAT SHE PLAYING GAME IN HER FAVOR

HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER FELL IN LOVE WITH KNOW HER WITH OUT KNOWING HER TRUE character

NOW THAT HER TRUE character HAS SHOWN UP HE HAS TO DEAL WITH IT OR MOVE ON
 

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Sounds like the beginning of the end for you, actually....
Yep.
 

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I don't know if there can really be any rule written about this. Do I believe its possible for them to be good friends, without any romantic desires, yes. Do I like it hell no. But now it is what it is, she still comes to me with everything first and I give her advice from my experience. But she's young and a little stubborn, I can't end the relationship when everything else is so good. She is fully open with me and admits this is an issue that she is working through for us and is gradually lowering the amount of conversation they have for us. Plus let me reiterate the kid is in the marines, he isn't here. I can honestly say I never felt this way before either, being alpha and spinning plates is fun, but when you find a girl who is right in so many ways, your priorities shift and you want to make it last. Guys logical brains strive to make everything cut and dry, but you can't just cut things off when everything doesn't go your way either. I have no real reason not to trust her, she's fully expressed her views on it, so I gotta respect it. If she breaks my heart somewhere down the line, so be it, I will still have learned far more from going through it than running way from it. Thanks for all your input guys.
 

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Ok, but she developed a close relationship with the kid's family and checks in with them occasionally as well. Overall she has strong morals, and doesn't even lie to her parents. There are a lot of signs that she should be trusted in all respects.

She also said she flat out told him "she loves me". He asked if I treat her well and she said "Yes". At some point he wants to meet me. She has been open about the entire situation and has not hid anything, so I have to respect that to some degree too.

I know the ex being a friend is not good and I learned from this relationship that I couldn't marry a woman who does that. But yeah we are both young, I am new to relationships. It makes me happy, if she cheats that REALLY sucks and would crush me for awhile, but I trust her until she gives me a reason not to. I can't "live in fear" of her falling back for the kid, she referred to their relationship as "broken" and said she "has no interest in anything romantic" " that bridge is burned". Words are words, but I'm going to enjoy it for as long as it stays this good.

Better I experience it now, and get a feel for what I want out of a relationship, than really fall deep when I am older for someone who does the same thing. Exes need to be excommunicated, that is the moral of the story.
 
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