gf says guy wants to shoot nude pics of her

[backbreaker]

b

Your point that context matters is important.

But your key point is that you "knew he didn't have a chance in hell" because you knew him. We don't know that in the OP's situation.

Context is also important based on who the artist is and how women percieve him.

you're not incorrect however you are changing the goalposts of the argument. i never said that the artists intentions were pure i simply stated that a woman who wants to pose nude is not uncommon and not necessairly NEXt/slutty behavior as every other post before mine tried to point out


again, you are right i'm not saying she is defiantly not looking to dos something, but the behavior on it's own merits, is not necessarily bad behavior. to me the fact that she is honest about it shows her intentions are pure. if she didn't have honest intentions shew ould have just did it and never told you about it. but if she were otherwise a good GF i would not look too hard into this and just ask to see pics when she's done

 

[Three]

If I was serious with a girl, I would be pissed. This sounds like a stupid immature thing for a girl to get involved in that will end up with some sleazy shitbag giving her a couple glasses of wine to loosen up and then banging the fuck out of her...

As others have said, be the man and lay down the law, firmly and honestly and without a lot of emotion. Ask why she friended this guy in the first place. It might be a good idea to remind her that this is an ages old trick to lure pretty, but gullible young women into compromising situations.

 

[betheman]

A girl in an ltr of a year, a good GF at that, will get offers like this, most good looking women will, what a good GF/ltr would do, is not even let you know, you should never hear it. there is a reason she is doing this, allowing you to know that another man is making a pretty direct approach on her.
what could the reasons be? any one of or a range a group of reasons, you are losing your atraction to her, she genuinley wants to bed this other guy and wants to rattle you into action so maybe you fight and 'drive her into the arms of the other guy' , you say you never had a fight? maybe she wants to feel that emotion and have the makeup sex? creating jealousy so you can kick off? .

your response? maybe a fake rage, end up spanking her and getting flthy, with the end dictat that any slutty pictures of her will be taken by you and you alone and you conveniently whip out a camera and take all maner of kinky shots.

if she does want the other guy your pretty much stuffed and you might want to plan an exit strategy before you get dumped

 

[incognito42]

maybe it's just me but this just wasn't a big deal to me. this thread shows me just how little world experience most guys have with women. every hot girl on the planent who knows she is hot, goes through a nude/stripper/modeling phase. it's just as mandatory as chickenpox damn near. it's gonna happen. doesn't mean she's a ***** either. every woman who has a smoking body (amber's face, not the best i've ever seen but that woman had an elite body as you can see for yourself) toys with the idea of making money off of it

Chicks who want their pics taken have low self esteem, or had bad parenting or were raised with loose morals or no integrity. Unless its the type of a situation where they wanna take sexy pics one time because they're in their prime physically and want something to remember it by, or maybe they wanna send nudes to play oy to see if they're hot enough to make it, etc

Most hOt chicks may want thei pic taken in the nude, but most hot chicks aren't well adjusted and are messed up in the head too from not learning how to deal with being hot in a worl where beauty = power.

Doesn't mean guys here have no experience with women because they disagree with you.

 

[incognito42]

b you're not incorrect however you are changing the goalposts of the argument. i never said that the artists intentions were pure i simply stated that a woman who wants to pose nude is not uncommon and not necessairly NEXt/slutty behavior as every other post before mine tried to point out


again, you are right i'm not saying she is defiantly not looking to dos something, but the behavior on it's own merits, is not necessarily bad behavior. to me the fact that she is honest about it shows her intentions are pure. if she didn't have honest intentions shew ould have just did it and never told you about it. but if she were otherwise a good GF i would not look too hard into this and just ask to see pics when she's done

So you have no issue with your gf of over a year who's never modeled or aspired to be one, being propositioned by a complete stranger on myspace to take nude pics and having her add the guy as a friend and discussing this with him to who knows what extent and THEN coming to you asking what she should do? The fact that the convo with him went past his first initial contact with her would say everything I need to know. It wouldn't be an automatic dealbreaker but would throw uP serious red flags

 

[backbreaker]

So you have no issue with your gf of over a year who's never modeled or aspired to be one, being propositioned by a complete stranger on myspace to take nude pics and having her add the guy as a friend and discussing this with him to who knows what extent and THEN coming to you asking what she should do?

..not really no i don't.

I mean, if yoyu don't agree with me i really don't give a **** that's just my stance. i see this happen all the time. the girl that borught m here is a very high quality woman and wanted to dot he same siht. has never cheated on a man a day in her life. i don't have to defend my stance on the issue. as you can see i have proof to back up my stance, i don't give a ****.

amber, the girl int he pics, wasn't the shaprest tool in the shed but was not low quality at all. we just wanted different **** so we split.

and undestand what i'm saying; she very well could be trying to cheat. i'm not saying tht everyone is stupid who thinks she is not going to cheat. i am saying that guys that consider the behavior on it's own merit, as a sign of a *****/slut are very inexperienced with dating young adult women. you can say a lot of **** about me, but you can't say i pull **** out of my ass; evrything i post on this site comes from real life field expeirence, not DJ theory 101 class

 

[incognito42]

..not really no i don't.

I mean, if yoyu don't agree with me i really don't give a **** that's just my stance. i see this happen all the time. the girl that borught m here is a very high quality woman and wanted to dot he same siht. has never cheated on a man a day in her life. i don't have to defend my stance on the issue. as you can see i have proof to back up my stance, i don't give a ****.

amber, the girl int he pics, wasn't the shaprest tool in the shed but was not low quality at all. we just wanted different **** so we split.

and undestand what i'm saying; she very well could be trying to cheat. i'm not saying tht everyone is stupid who thinks she is not going to cheat. i am saying that guys that consider the behavior on it's own merit, as a sign of a *****/slut are very inexperienced with dating young adult women. you can say a lot of **** about me, but you can't say i pull **** out of my ass; evrything i post on this site comes from real life field expeirence, not DJ theory 101 class

Fair enough dude, id never be with a chick like that but my disagreeing with you isn't going to cause me to say you have no experience with women.

 

[incognito42]

Lol and since you disagree with everyone else no one else is basing their opinions here off of real life experience I suppose lol

A chick that is committed to someone and wants other guys to take nude pics of her is flawed psychologically

 

[backbreaker]

That is exactly my point though. I see this all of the time too, and more often than not it ends badly. That is my experience because very many times, I am that guy she ends up fvking or trying to fvk.

Now, I'm not saying the girl is a slut. She may just be naive, so I totally agree with you there. This is not an automatic nexting case in my eyes.

The part where you say she has never cheated on a man though.....I honestly do not think there is any way you could ever know that aside from basically being a tatoo on her @ss. Any claim to the otherwise is just plain false.

i've know kat for over 15 years, i literally know every guy she has ever ****ed. one night stands, boy friends, teachers lol, cops. but when she gets in a relationship she's in it to win it.

but for the most part we agree. all i am trying to say it's not an auto toss. this is one of those things you ahve to feel out and you need to be there to do it. all i am saying is that the beahvior on it's own merit is not toss behavior. just about all hot girls go through this phase at some point

I mean, to be wanted to be taken pictures of nude or painted of that is very flattering and self esteem bosting. a girl isn't a slut for wanting that

 

[Maeisgood]

This guy sounds like a creep.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Not only is he a creep, but the modeling angle is a common ploy used by serial killers to get gullible women alone.

 

[powpow]

A guy tried this with my girlfriend one time.
He wanted her to walk around this party in underwear and let guys put money in her bra for drinks to sell drinks.

I told her no.
She told the guy no.
The guy tried to play games and make it seem like I was the jealous type.

So I went to the party and slammed his face into his ****in stupid dj equipment.

Thats one way to handle it

Hate sleezeballs

 

[zekko]

I am not saying she is or is not going to do something. But allowing your woman to enter a one-on-one sexual environment with another man is generally not a good idea.

I agree with this. I don't doubt that most attractive women go through a phase where they are vulnerable to being tempted into something like this.
I mean they're only super hot for a certain number of years, I think they'd like to have a record of it that they can look back on.

But if the girl is my significant other, there's no way I'm going to give her the okay on this. It's common knowledge that many photographers of nude women end up sleeping with their models, which indicates they probably try to sleep with even more of them. If you think about it, there's actually a seduction of a sort being done by the guy here, he's seducing her into taking her clothes off in the studio at least, and very possibly more.

The fact that the guy is friending the girl on social media makes it seem more like he has designs on her than a strictly professional situation.

I've never bought into the "I'm so alpha, I let my girl sleep over at guy's houses, she knows I'm the best and she'll come home to me" attitude. This seems like an inappropriate situation, and I don't like the idea of a girl of mine putting herself into inappropriate situations.

Like you say, you don't condone a girl putting herself into a sexually charged situation with another man.

 

[backbreaker]

I agree with this. I don't doubt that most attractive women go through a phase where they are vulnerable to being tempted into something like this.
I mean they're only super hot for a certain number of years, I think they'd like to have a record of it that they can look back on.

But if the girl is my significant other, there's no way I'm going to give her the okay on this. It's common knowledge that many photographers of nude women end up sleeping with their models, which indicates they probably try to sleep with even more of them. If you think about it, there's actually a seduction of a sort being done by the guy here, he's seducing her into taking her clothes off in the studio at least, and very possibly more.

The fact that the guy is friending the girl on social media makes it seem more like he has designs on her than a strictly professional situation.

I've never bought into the "I'm so alpha, I let my girl sleep over at guy's houses, she knows I'm the best and she'll come home to me" attitude. This seems like an inappropriate situation, and I don't like the idea of a girl of mine putting herself into inappropriate situations.

Like you say, you don't condone a girl putting herself into a sexually charged situation with another man.

that's a pretty extreme example. if my wife spent the night over some dudes house her **** would be packed once she got home.

As stated, this is one of those things that you really have to play by ear.. and depending on how your relationship is with your girl it could go both ways. if we were having issues or she was really distant and this popped we would have an issue. if she was head over heels for me and a perfect GF and she wanted to do this, knock yourself out. that was teh situation with amber and i that girl adored me. when this came up i knew her well enough to know that her intentions were pure; she wanted to have pictures to add to her portfolio that showed off her body. I also, beucase some previous business experiences with the guy in question and knew him quite well, that he wanted to **** her. But just about every guy I know wnated to **** my GF so i mean that wasn't some earth shattering revelation or anything.

and ****, then if you take that black and white stance, where does it stop? do you have to put a monitor on her when you go out clubbing lol? do you get hot under the collar if her and her girlfriends want to have a girls night out? what if she starts going to a new hair place and has a good looking hair stylist?

I can't be in a relationship like that. That and i like freedom.. the only way i can be in a relationship is if i don't have a girl busting my balls for **** i do... there is some **** i do that would rub low self esteem girls the wron gway.. kat the girl i talk about who brought me here, is still a good platonic friend of mine, when i'm in Arkansas we see each other from time to time, often times by ourselves going out to lunch or what not.w e don't do anything but one insecure girl willt ake one look at her and then the wheels in her head woudl start turning, you want to **** her. my wife has no problem with this at all, she knows the girl and knows me well enough to know why i still talk to her from time to time. there are times i still randomly pop u at AA meetings, some of them are at 10-10:30 at night on the weekends, is a girl going to get up in a bunch bgeucse i leave at 10:15 on a Saturday night and say i am going to a meeting lol?

honestly if my wife came to me and told me today that some dude wanted to take nude pcitures of her beucse he thought she had a perfect body and she wants to do it.. i honestly would not have an issue with it.


you know, this just gave me a relaly good idea for a post. give me about 1 hour i got somewhere i have to run

 

[XMinister]

It's people like him who ruin online dating for everyone. Creep after fukin creep. Women are like children. It's so easy to string their emotions in a way that over power their logic. I hate women............I love them too though..........ugh

 

[backbreaker]

Okay. Now understand what i am about to say is not a rule of law, nor am I telling anyone this is how they should go about their business. I am just making this post so that you can better understand the context in which i mean I don't have a problem with my woman doing something like this.

This is generally how my wife and I operate and it works both ways.

Alot of guys here tka a 10 commandments type stance wheni t comes to rules and bounderies. Meaning, these are my commandments, if you break any of these you have to go. I'm not saying that's even wrong, that's just not how i operate.

This is what we do. I look at our relationship like a ever lasting game of Tug-O-War. I start off at a certain place and this is my line where if i get pulled past this line the relationship is over.

the longer we go, the more good **** she does, the more drama she does not cause, the more of my idea wife/GF she is, the further back I go from the line. sex is good, no drama this month, doesn't bust my balls when I'm locked in a room all day working and not spending time with her, randomly bought me a new pair of shoes she thought i would like (and she was right), she even spent a few hours a few weeks ago taking out every peace of live rock in my 300 gallon fish tank in the living room and scrubbing the algae off of it beucase i didn't have time to do it. didn't' even have to ask her to she just knew i didn't have time. i don't know what i have been doign wrong but the last 2m onths i ahve had algie growing out hte ass in my tank.. that's off the subject, anyway, my point to use a RPG game analogy she earned some ExP points lol.

so now with that in context... she had a few months like this i have taking 5-6 steps back from the line.. if she comes to me and says something like hey some guy thinks i have a great body and thinks i am model material and wants to take pictures of me naked.. do i LIKE it? honestly, not really.. I'm not going to say I'm pissed but I mean, you get what i mean. But she has earned some steps to do things that other women would not get away with, so instead of 5-6 steps back now i'm 2-3 steps back, but i'm still back. if this is how she wants to spend her steps by all means go ahead.

now obviously, using this an logy, there is a line that once you get back to that line we need to figure some **** out. lol she can't be a habitual line stepper; she can't make a habit of doing **** like this. but if i am 5-6 steps back and she wants to do something that might raise an eyebrow, to me she's earned my benefit of the doubt.

she's got some friends in del mar and her and a few of her GF's want to go down there for the weekend next week to visit.. she's earned that without me questioning her whatsoever.

and as stated it works both ways. I do **** sometimes, like talk to the girl that bought me here,, we keep in touch, that most women would not like, but i've earned that in her eyes. Im' a (I think lol) good husband. i respect her, i treat her as my equal, i don't spoil her but the few times she wants something i don't have a problem making her happy, i don't ***** at her everyday for not being as cleanly as i am, i show her attention without showering it to her, it ake her out and still make her feel like i love her and i do. so when i say hey, kat is in town for a day or two we are going to go out for lunch, all i get in return is have fun, bring me back something to eat lol. does she LIKE the fact that i stillt alk to her often? not really lol. but she's not threatened by her and i've earned the right to do **** that i want to do.

this works for me. I have an Alaskan Malamute that i have had since i was 21. he runs this house lol. goes wherever he wants when he wants. we have a doggie door interance in the back door to the patio so he goes out side and just sits there half the day, just sitting in the yard looking at people. he's free to do whatever he wnts to do. i don't keep him on a chain and i don't keep him locked up in the house.

and you know what, it's beucase i don't keep him locked up and i don't keep him in the house, that i am not worried in the east bit about him running off. lol why? why would he go anywhere? he's got it made. versus people who keep their dogs locked up all the time in the house and somehow they get outside and they act like an escaped slave running for freedom lol.

the freeer someone is the happier they are gonna be. the happier they re going to be the better chance ou have of having a good long lasting relationship. the second a person has to start giving up true wishes, just to be in a relationship, that relationship is on a timer from that second on.

that's how i see it. if you dont agree that's cool. but that's my philosophy and it works for me

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Okay. Now understand what i am about to say is not a rule of law, nor am I telling anyone this is how they should go about their business. I am just making this post so that you can better understand the context in which i mean I don't have a problem with my woman doing something like this.

This is generally how my wife and I operate and it works both ways.

Alot of guys here tka a 10 commandments type stance wheni t comes to rules and bounderies. Meaning, these are my commandments, if you break any of these you have to go. I'm not saying that's even wrong, that's just not how i operate.

This is what we do. I look at our relationship like a ever lasting game of Tug-O-War. I start off at a certain place and this is my line where if i get pulled past this line the relationship is over.

the longer we go, the more good **** she does, the more drama she does not cause, the more of my idea wife/GF she is, the further back I go from the line. sex is good, no drama this month, doesn't bust my balls when I'm locked in a room all day working and not spending time with her, randomly bought me a new pair of shoes she thought i would like (and she was right), she even spent a few hours a few weeks ago taking out every peace of live rock in my 300 gallon fish tank in the living room and scrubbing the algae off of it beucase i didn't have time to do it. didn't' even have to ask her to she just knew i didn't have time. i don't know what i have been doign wrong but the last 2m onths i ahve had algie growing out hte ass in my tank.. that's off the subject, anyway, my point to use a RPG game analogy she earned some ExP points lol.

so now with that in context... she had a few months like this i have taking 5-6 steps back from the line.. if she comes to me and says something like hey some guy thinks i have a great body and thinks i am model material and wants to take pictures of me naked.. do i LIKE it? honestly, not really.. I'm not going to say I'm pissed but I mean, you get what i mean. But she has earned some steps to do things that other women would not get away with, so instead of 5-6 steps back now i'm 2-3 steps back, but i'm still back. if this is how she wants to spend her steps by all means go ahead.

now obviously, using this an logy, there is a line that once you get back to that line we need to figure some **** out. lol she can't be a habitual line stepper; she can't make a habit of doing **** like this. but if i am 5-6 steps back and she wants to do something that might raise an eyebrow, to me she's earned my benefit of the doubt.

she's got some friends in del mar and her and a few of her GF's want to go down there for the weekend next week to visit.. she's earned that without me questioning her whatsoever.

and as stated it works both ways. I do **** sometimes, like talk to the girl that bought me here,, we keep in touch, that most women would not like, but i've earned that in her eyes. Im' a (I think lol) good husband. i respect her, i treat her as my equal, i don't spoil her but the few times she wants something i don't have a problem making her happy, i don't ***** at her everyday for not being as cleanly as i am, i show her attention without showering it to her, it ake her out and still make her feel like i love her and i do. so when i say hey, kat is in town for a day or two we are going to go out for lunch, all i get in return is have fun, bring me back something to eat lol. does she LIKE the fact that i stillt alk to her often? not really lol. but she's not threatened by her and i've earned the right to do **** that i want to do.

this works for me. I have an Alaskan Malamute that i have had since i was 21. he runs this house lol. goes wherever he wants when he wants. we have a doggie door interance in the back door to the patio so he goes out side and just sits there half the day, just sitting in the yard looking at people. he's free to do whatever he wnts to do. i don't keep him on a chain and i don't keep him locked up in the house.

and you know what, it's beucase i don't keep him locked up and i don't keep him in the house, that i am not worried in the east bit about him running off. lol why? why would he go anywhere? he's got it made. versus people who keep their dogs locked up all the time in the house and somehow they get outside and they act like an escaped slave running for freedom lol.

the freeer someone is the happier they are gonna be. the happier they re going to be the better chance ou have of having a good long lasting relationship. the second a person has to start giving up true wishes, just to be in a relationship, that relationship is on a timer from that second on.

that's how i see it. if you dont agree that's cool. but that's my philosophy and it works for me

Off topic BB. What kind of fish do you keep? I used to have a few tanks. All large Cichlids etc. Ever check out Monster Fish Keepers on youtube? There are some SICK tanks on there. One dude made his ENTIRE bassment a 50,000 gallon freshwater monster tank. Sick shizz..

 

[backbreaker]

Slvts all say that. Its not a matter of it but when.

with all due respect i trust my judgement when it comes to women. this is a girl i've known since i was 13 and she's a college educated news caster for a local TV station, she's on TV everyday i assure you that she's not ****ing half the city or else she wouldn't have a job becuase she's a local public figure. this is what she has wanted to do her entire life and she's always been image concision about how people view her as, not saying she's perfect becuase she isn't whatsoever but she would never do anything that would taint her public image

Off topic BB. What kind of fish do you keep? I used to have a few tanks. All large Cichlids etc. Ever check out Monster Fish Keepers on youtube? There are some SICK tanks on there. One dude made his ENTIRE bassment a 50,000 gallon freshwater monster tank. Sick shizz..

i actually have 3. One is my big tank i keep in the living room, one is the quarantine tank for that tank which is just 20gallons, only time something is in that is when i buy something new or i think one of my fish is sick with ich or something like that. then i have a smaller tank in my room which is 100 gallons.

the big tank i have 4 Pajama Cardinal Fish, 2 clownish, 1 Green Mandarin Fish, 2 Harlequin Tuskfish, 2 purple firefish and 4 Longfin Bannerfish. I wouldn't mind adding more but the fish are happier when they have room to do their own thing.

the smaller tank I have 1 Purple Tang and one clarion angelfish.

the bigger tank is for all the regular fish. this is a pretty normal setup.

The tank in my room is really a coral reef tank,a t least that is what was supposed to be, but my wife got me the clarion angelfish for Christmas last year and it's too expensive of a fish to lose or my son trying to feed the tank (i let him feed the one in the living room) and screwing up the entire setup i have by over feeding and killing the fish. The Purple tang was in the othe tank but he killed 2 of my smaller fishes and I put him in the tank in my room so he wouldn't eat anymore fish. The clarion is too big for him to mess with so they just leave each other alone as long as both of them have food. the tang is IMHO the best looking fish I have but he is extremely extremely agressive and very difficult to keep happy

the smaller tank in my room has a full blown coral reef setup, and the big tank has a LOT of live rock but it's beautiful. i also have a few peppermint shrimp in both just to keep the thing clean, and usually they would do the job for the algae but the algae is getting out of hand.

salt water fish tanks is an entirely different animal than freesh water. you basically have to learn chemistry all over again with the exact ph levels and toxicities that certain fish have to have or like, some fish are hardier than others, what fish will eat other fish, what fish will eat their own kind lol,who can play nice together and who can't, but it's very fun and I like it. then on top of that, just about all of them prefer different **** to eat. There is a mini frige in my garage that is for nothing but fish food. millie usually goes to the seafood store once a month and takes 50 bucks or so and just buys a bunch of ****, we put it all in the blender and cut it up into little snack size pieces, some wille at that, some like brine I take my fish tanks seriously. some will eat brine shrim, some have to have pelletts. the **** is very complex. I generally spend 20 or so mintues a day doing some type of care with the tanks and once a week i will spend an hour or so doing a water change.

i woudl like a bigger tank but anything bigger than 500 gallons and it starts getting impractical to manage. i would like to have a tank one day for small sharks and i want a morey eel.. the girl kat i was talking about to Proyalflush she had a tank as a teenager with 2 moray eels in it, so beautiful. but i don't have the setup for that now and frankly i don't have enough room in my house to put one thre. if we don't move in the next few years which i am sure we are actually to a bigger house, maybe i will put it in my son's room but he's just 4 and a half now i can't do that yet. plus they have a habit of jumping out the tank from time to time if not secured tighly enough and they bite and my son isn't old enough to know not to touch it yet.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

with all due respect i trust my judgement when it comes to women. this is a girl i've known since i was 13 and she's a college educated news caster for a local TV station, she's on TV everyday i assure you that she's not ****ing half the city or else she wouldn't have a job becuase she's a local public figure. this is what she has wanted to do her entire life and she's always been image concision about how people view her as, not saying she's perfect becuase she isn't whatsoever but she would never do anything that would taint her public image


i actually have 3. One is my big tank i keep in the living room, one is the quarantine tank for that tank which is just 20gallons, only time something is in that is when i buy something new or i think one of my fish is sick with ich or something like that. then i have a smaller tank in my room which is 100 gallons.

the big tank i have 4 Pajama Cardinal Fish, 2 clownish, 1 Green Mandarin Fish, 2 Harlequin Tuskfish, 2 purple firefish and 4 Longfin Bannerfish. I wouldn't mind adding more but the fish are happier when they have room to do their own thing.

the smaller tank I have 1 Purple Tang and one clarion angelfish.

the bigger tank is for all the regular fish. this is a pretty normal setup.

The tank in my room is really a coral reef tank,a t least that is what was supposed to be, but my wife got me the clarion angelfish for Christmas last year and it's too expensive of a fish to lose or my son trying to feed the tank (i let him feed the one in the living room) and screwing up the entire setup i have by over feeding and killing the fish. The Purple tang was in the othe tank but he killed 2 of my smaller fishes and I put him in the tank in my room so he wouldn't eat anymore fish. The clarion is too big for him to mess with so they just leave each other alone as long as both of them have food. the tang is IMHO the best looking fish I have but he is extremely extremely agressive and very difficult to keep happy

the smaller tank in my room has a full blown coral reef setup, and the big tank has a LOT of live rock but it's beautiful. i also have a few peppermint shrimp in both just to keep the thing clean, and usually they would do the job for the algae but the algae is getting out of hand.

salt water fish tanks is an entirely different animal than freesh water. you basically have to learn chemistry all over again with the exact ph levels and toxicities that certain fish have to have or like, some fish are hardier than others, what fish will eat other fish, what fish will eat their own kind lol,who can play nice together and who can't, but it's very fun and I like it. then on top of that, just about all of them prefer different **** to eat. There is a mini frige in my garage that is for nothing but fish food. millie usually goes to the seafood store once a month and takes 50 bucks or so and just buys a bunch of ****, we put it all in the blender and cut it up into little snack size pieces, some wille at that, some like brine I take my fish tanks seriously. some will eat brine shrim, some have to have pelletts. the **** is very complex. I generally spend 20 or so mintues a day doing some type of care with the tanks and once a week i will spend an hour or so doing a water change.

i woudl like a bigger tank but anything bigger than 500 gallons and it starts getting impractical to manage. i would like to have a tank one day for small sharks and i want a morey eel.. the girl kat i was talking about to Proyalflush she had a tank as a teenager with 2 moray eels in it, so beautiful. but i don't have the setup for that now and frankly i don't have enough room in my house to put one thre. if we don't move in the next few years which i am sure we are actually to a bigger house, maybe i will put it in my son's room but he's just 4 and a half now i can't do that yet. plus they have a habit of jumping out the tank from time to time if not secured tighly enough and they bite and my son isn't old enough to know not to touch it yet.

Cool. My cousin has a 90 gallon bow salt water tank. Looks great and is a good conversation piece.

 

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Thanks for your input on all of this. Although if i wanted to keep her I would have put her in her place about it but I said I was thinking about dumping her and using this as a way to d it.

whoever said that I'm a troll or a vagina is an idiot.

people do use myspace for the music and they are making a brand new site that is coming out in a few weeks.

First off it surprised me that she was even be interested in this at all or even talk to a guy that would be offering this to her.

my main point was that I was thinking about using this against her to break up. I'm at the point that I want to go out and hang out with other girls. The fact that she would think about that throws up a red flag. I had no reason to use to break up but this gives me a chance.

So am I wrong to think I could use this to my advantage?