GF going to South Beach Miami...

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She tells me her best friend won a vacation for 2 from her job to south beach florida and she is going with her for 4 dayss

Now her best friend is a nice girl.... she is about 23 years old.... a very greek kind of girl,,, and shes a virgin

my girl of course has a BF (ME) and she wants to go

Now I know the kind of stuff that goes down their..... I dont like her going there..... she tells meee dont worry,,,, I will have fun but I wont do anything stupid,,,

What do you guys think?

BTW SHE DOES LOVE ME.... BUT IM GUESSING IF SHES AWAY she might do something knowing I wouldnt find outttt

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Slick101 said:
She tells me her best friend won a vacation for 2 from her job to south beach florida and she is going with her for 4 dayss

Now her best friend is a nice girl.... she is about 23 years old.... a very greek kind of girl,,, and shes a virgin

my girl of course has a BF (ME) and she wants to go

Now I know the kind of stuff that goes down their..... I dont like her going there..... she tells meee dont worry,,,, I will have fun but I wont do anything stupid,,,

What do you guys think?

BTW SHE DOES LOVE ME.... BUT IM GUESSING IF SHES AWAY she might do something knowing I wouldnt find outttt

I want good experienced guys with this to comment

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Let her go.

Work on your insecurities with distractions. Take the time to hang out with buddies, spend time on YOU.

The only way to fully have her commited to you and faithful... is to let her wander free like a bird and just like a bird... it faithfully comes back to it's nest.

The more you pressure her with your insecurities and keep her from the world, the more she will resent and cheat on you. What you are doing now, will in effect make her cheat on you...

Learn to trust her. If you really love her, you will give her the freedom to prove that she is as commited to this relationship as you are to her.
 

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Adma said:
Let her go.

Work on your insecurities with distractions. Take the time to hang out with buddies, spend time on YOU.

The only way to fully have her commited to you and faithful... is to let her wander free like a bird and just like a bird... it faithfully comes back to it's nest.

The more you pressure her with your insecurities and keep her from the world, the more she will resent and cheat on you. What you are doing now, will in effect make her cheat on you...

Learn to trust her. If you really love her, you will give her the freedom to prove that she is as commited to this relationship as you are to her.
Thank You soo much I will let her goo....

But then again... you can never stop a girl from cheating right.... like if shes there and she gets wasted and sum random dude tries to fvck her..... i would never know....
 

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Thank You soo much I will let her goo....

But then again... you can never stop a girl from cheating right.... like if shes there and she gets wasted and sum random dude tries to fvck her..... i would never know....
98% of guys don't even have this knowledge... So for one, you are better then 98% of guys. Plus drunk guys usually turn women off.

Here's the thing, by allowing her to go and giving her space... she will be thinking of you the whole time, you re-ignite passion inside her... because it's only in those moments where she is as free as a bird that she begins to feel home sick about her nest.

You are a catch dude, she needs space to realize how lucky she really is.
 

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Adma said:
98% of guys don't even have this knowledge... So for one, you are better then 98% of guys. Plus drunk guys usually turn women off.

Here's the thing, by allowing her to go and giving her space... she will be thinking of you the whole time, you re-ignite passion inside her... because it's only in those moments where she is as free as a bird that she begins to feel home sick about her nest.

You are a catch dude, she needs space to realize how lucky she really is.
Can you rephrase that .... for some reason Im not getting it all the way LOL

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BTW she wants me to be excited that shes going....

Shes like.... why arent you excited that Im going?
 

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If you want I can recommend you some bad places for her to go so that she doesn't have a good time. Like, overrated places that take forever to get into then it's just a bunch of weirdos inside. heheheh I lived there for 8 years.
 

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should I be worried??? LOL

And what places

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You should be excited for her, you want her to have fun. What, you want her to be bored all week and not go on some awesome vacation? The reason you're not excited for her is because you're JEALOUS, and not just jealous beacuse she's having fun and you're not, but because you're AFRAID she'll find some other dude. But Dude, if you play it cool, and don't be AFRAID, and tell her you hope she has a GREAT time and are actually happy for her, then she will be LESS likely to cheat. If you act jealous, she probably will because girls hate jealousy. It's a sign that you're insecure about her and your relationship. Be a man and assume control. You are the MAN- and no woman cheats on her MAN or she gets the BOOT. You are CONFIDENT enough to tell her "AWESOME!!! I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME!!! CAn't wait till you get back and tell me all about it!!" Then she'll have so much more respect for you and won't even think about betraying you.

you're lucky. If that were my ex-gf she prolly wouldn't even tell me where she was going because she wouldn't want to have to deal with me getting jealous.

Don't listen to mikeraw, you WANT her to have fun. Only an insecure and desperate chump would try to be so controlling as to try to make sure she doesn't have a fun vacation.
Thanks man I appreciate it...

I already acted like a chump by telling her I dont like the fact that shes going...

how can I reverse this?
 

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BrianKozmo said:
Not everyone has all the answers. My guess is that if you just change your attitude about it maybe she'll forget about what you said, or maybe you'll have to explain it to her, I honestly don't know. Maybe someone else can help you out here.

But I do know that if you change your attitude about it and actually get excited for her then she won't feel like you are obsessive and clingy. Put yourself in her shoes.. how would you feel if she told you all the places to go so that you couldn't have fun cuz she was afraid you'd cheat? lol.

Maybe comments here and there such as, "Damn!! I wish I could go! :)" and "wow i'm so happy for you, it sounds really exciting!!" could help.

But Adma had it right. By giving her space like this and not getting upset over it, she'll prolly end up missing you and wishing you were there. And especially don't CALL her. Last thing she wants is someone calling checking up on her to make sure she's not being naughty. She wants you to trust her, right?

If you see yourself still getting upset and wondering if she's 'cheating' and all that, then just go out with some friends, do something constructive while she's gone. Put on some uplifting awesome killer music, do some working out, have some fun.
Thanks man I really appreciate it
 

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Slick101 said:
I dont like her going there..... she tells meee dont worry,,,, I will have fun but I wont do anything stupid,,,
What exectly did you tell her? did you verbalized your concerns and fears over the trip that she had to come out with "don't worry" line?
 

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Slick101 said:
She tells me her best friend won a vacation for 2 from her job to south beach florida and she is going with her for 4 dayss

Now her best friend is a nice girl.... she is about 23 years old.... a very greek kind of girl,,, and shes a virgin

my girl of course has a BF (ME) and she wants to go

Now I know the kind of stuff that goes down their..... I dont like her going there..... she tells meee dont worry,,,, I will have fun but I wont do anything stupid,,,

What do you guys think?

BTW SHE DOES LOVE ME.... BUT IM GUESSING IF SHES AWAY she might do something knowing I wouldnt find outttt

I want good experienced guys with this to comment

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Ive Learned that when sh!t like this happenes, you lose either way. because

1) If you get pissed or "worried" that she might cheat, your viewed as insecure and controlling.

2)If you feel fine about it and you give her space to do whatever she wants, You never know if she messed with a guy while she was away (Your right about never knowing because women will lie to the DEATH! before they admit they F'ed up)

Im in a relationship now but i will never ever put my guard down on a women. You bring your shield down and you will get F****d!

My advice from experience, let her go, dont worry about it BUT dont be the AFC that believe EVERY little word she tells you about what happened. (i.e. "We went to eat and then we just hung out by the beach all night before we went to bed") <<~~That right there would be a little hard to believe. They are in Miami, On Vacation with no "Boyfriends" around and plenty of guys out there just waiting to throw some game.

One more thing i want to point out is if her friend is single and a virgin then she might want to get out and meet some guys and your GF WILL join her in "Helping" her meet guys at the bars/Lounges/clubs.
 

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Dude, tell where she'll be going. I want to be that guy who will be having a threesome with a virgin and some young girly who has left her boyfriend home worrying.

Just kidding dude. Said it to make a point that most guys spend all their time worrying about the worse case scenario, which very rarely happens. 4 days is barely enought to go see the town and have some fun relaxing time.
 

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shes gonna get d1cked down by a bunch of dudes. you should try to go out and get some new puss while shes away.
 

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She's going down there and she is going to get fvcked by a group of studs with 9 inch c0cks bro.

People who are serious about their relationship and madly in love with their partner do not go to hook up spots like south beach Miami without their partner accompanying them.

So stay with her if you want but just know that she is going to be stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey while down there and you will be kissing the lips of a woman whose just had 12 c0cks on that mouth.

And the next time you go into a relationship to avoid this type of sh!t you have to frame the relationship in your favor AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF IT by having a talk with the girl about the do's and don't's of your relationship while you are in it together.

No you aren't being controlling with this you are simply saying you both are going to do this, that and the other thing, and act and behave a certain way towards eachother and if she doesn't like that or agree to the terms there is the door. She can stay with you or leave you of her own free will and choice but if she stays its on your terms, your frame, not her's. You lead and she follows basically.

Of course you can use better phrased language than that but the key to getting what you want is presenting your frame to a woman and allowing her to either reject or accept it.

If she doesn't accept it then you next her saving yourself from wasting time on a woman that is not right for you.

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Man #1 : Freaked out about me doing a road trip alone. He did not trust me.
I stopped seeing him when this happened.

Man #2 trusts me completely - even teases me about things I do alone/when I go out. I adore him and can't get enough of him.
 

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The bottom line is IF she is trustworthy.
The truth is South Beach IS a sausage fest.

She WILL get approached. A lot.
Theres nothing else to do there but drink and hook up.
You can go to the beach too.
But...



It will be up to her if she has the self discipline to not invite and definitely not accept any offers.
Right now, you cant do anything about it. (well, you cant tell her not to go, you can ASK her not to go, you can just walk out right now...so you CAN do SOME things...the question is, are they at the end of the day the BEST things to do?)

If you are sure of her character, then dont worry or obsess about it.

And if you're not, then you STILL shouldnt worry..because it's out of your control anyway.

You can TELL a woman until you pass out to 'never hang around with guys' or 'never go to some place like that without me'.
But she may still go anyway.
And she will still feel like you're too controlling. (some women actually like to be dominated like that. It's up to you to determine if that is the kind of man you want to be, and if she's the kind of woman that wants that from you.)

It's up to her to decide if she's cool with that kind of behavior from her BF.

If you satisfy her in every possible way, perhaps many women will accept certain restrictions.
Perhaps not.
I think it would be a good idea to really ask yourself what kinds of 'rules' you want to set down. And how do you want to approach it.
You dont have to be a 'hard sell'. And intimidate her, but you can do the 'soft sell'. Again, it's up to you to decide what you will or wont tolerate.
It is also for you to decide if being that controlling is a GOOD thing period.
If you realize that thinking you CONTROL people is an illusion. And that FEAR is not the same thing as RESPECT, you may want to think about how far you want to go.

Honestly, this issue is kind of hard.

Because on the one hand, I would want my GF to have freedom. And enjoy doing things without me, on her own,have her own life, with friends. etc..

Im not going to dictate to her where she can go, what kind of friends , etc..
and use 'threats' ie, "If you EVER cheat on me, I'll....yada yada".
Honestly, Im at a stage where if a GF were to cheat on me, I would be upset for a short while, and the last remnants of my ego may surface, but I would pretty quickly not give a sh*t, and keep walking, never to see her again...
...and feel fine about that. At no time can I muster enough hatred or resentment to try ot get back at her. I think I set up my boundaries pretty well, and pretty early on. And if she doesnt realize them, thats ok, she'll realize them at the moment of her indiscretion.
Im not possessive, or insecure, or worried about any woman leaving me, of cheating on me, or any of that.

BUT...

South Beach to have 'fun'?

WHAT kind of 'fun'?

You know what I mean?

What else is that place good for, man?

But she wants to honor and accompany her best friend.
As her BF, if you respect her, you try to accomodate for her friends too.
Its the classy and decent thing to do.
She also needs to have time by her self.

One of the quickest ways to KILL a relationship is to get all clingy with her, and force her to spend every waking minute with you.
Not good.

So a good balance is key.

And Im not saying to be blind.
But does it help you and help her for you to NOT automatically ASSUME that she WILL 'cheat' on you.
"All women are cheaters at heart, and CANNOT be trusted under ANY circumstances!!!"
Do you agree with this?

Then perhaps you also agree that "all men are dogs" , 'no man can be trusted', 'all men are stupid', 'men only after one thing', and all those limiting, concluding, and defining categories that women often place men in.

Do you think it is good, healthy, and helpful thing to automatically assume evryone will stab you in the back the minute you turn around?

It's really important to not be blind. And it is important to be alert, and aware, not only with her, but yourself as well.

But worrying about things you CANNOT "CONTROL" doesnt do anyone good.

This is why associating only with women with high character is important if you dont want to be worrying all the time, and live in anxiety , fear, and restlessness about 'what is she doing?' when she's away.


Ultimately a person is only as strong as their weakest link.

And you have to be prepared for people to reveal their 'true colors'.

And handle it well, with class, self respect, and dignity.

Remember that most perceived 'offenses' are really nothing more than one's Ego being 'attacked'.

Jealousy and possesivenes, and clingy,controlling behavior all really come from insecurity, and a feeling of a loss of control.

Who likes being 'controlled'??

(You may say "yeah, but she LIKES being conrolled!" and you may be right, but does it do her justice? Is it truly the RIGHT thing to do? DO you REALLY want that kind of woman around? Knowing that to be controlled in a domineering, intimidating manner is not healthy? Some people like to self mutilate themselves, does it make it 'right'?? Just a question to ask oneself. )

It may be a good idea to think about why a healthy ,sexual, attractive , and masculine man would need to be 'controlling' in order to keep some female 'interested' in him.


You're not really hurt if you dont operate from Ego validation.



And if you have true self esteem, and KNOW that you're a good man, and a good catch anyway, and have no problem attracting other women, you are not really going to be to phased by it.

Try to discern if it's your Ego thats being hurt, or are you really in Danger?

Good luck. I know it can be tough.

But theres not much you can do about HER...it's all about how YOU Respond to these things.
 

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Interceptor said:
The bottom line is IF she is trustworthy.
The truth is South Beach IS a sausage fest.

She WILL get approached. A lot.
Theres nothing else to do there but drink and hook up.
You can go to the beach too.
But...



It will be up to her if she has the self discipline to not invite and definitely not accept any offers.
Right now, you cant do anything about it. (well, you cant tell her not to go, you can ASK her not to go, you can just walk out right now...so you CAN do SOME things...the question is, are they at the end of the day the BEST things to do?)

If you are sure of her character, then dont worry or obsess about it.

And if you're not, then you STILL shouldnt worry..because it's out of your control anyway.

You can TELL a woman until you pass out to 'never hang around with guys' or 'never go to some place like that without me'.
But she may still go anyway.
And she will still feel like you're too controlling. (some women actually like to be dominated like that. It's up to you to determine if that is the kind of man you want to be, and if she's the kind of woman that wants that from you.)

It's up to her to decide if she's cool with that kind of behavior from her BF.

If you satisfy her in every possible way, perhaps many women will accept certain restrictions.
Perhaps not.
I think it would be a good idea to really ask yourself what kinds of 'rules' you want to set down. And how do you want to approach it.
You dont have to be a 'hard sell'. And intimidate her, but you can do the 'soft sell'. Again, it's up to you to decide what you will or wont tolerate.
It is also for you to decide if being that controlling is a GOOD thing period.
If you realize that thinking you CONTROL people is an illusion. And that FEAR is not the same thing as RESPECT, you may want to think about how far you want to go.

Honestly, this issue is kind of hard.

Because on the one hand, I would want my GF to have freedom. And enjoy doing things without me, on her own,have her own life, with friends. etc..

Im not going to dictate to her where she can go, what kind of friends , etc..
and use 'threats' ie, "If you EVER cheat on me, I'll....yada yada".
Honestly, Im at a stage where if a GF were to cheat on me, I would be upset for a short while, and the last remnants of my ego may surface, but I would pretty quickly not give a sh*t, and keep walking, never to see her again...
...and feel fine about that. At no time can I muster enough hatred or resentment to try ot get back at her. I think I set up my boundaries pretty well, and pretty early on. And if she doesnt realize them, thats ok, she'll realize them at the moment of her indiscretion.
Im not possessive, or insecure, or worried about any woman leaving me, of cheating on me, or any of that.

BUT...

South Beach to have 'fun'?

WHAT kind of 'fun'?

You know what I mean?

What else is that place good for, man?

But she wants to honor and accompany her best friend.
As her BF, if you respect her, you try to accomodate for her friends too.
Its the classy and decent thing to do.
She also needs to have time by her self.

One of the quickest ways to KILL a relationship is to get all clingy with her, and force her to spend every waking minute with you.
Not good.

So a good balance is key.

And Im not saying to be blind.
But does it help you and help her for you to NOT automatically ASSUME that she WILL 'cheat' on you.
"All women are cheaters at heart, and CANNOT be trusted under ANY circumstances!!!"
Do you agree with this?

Then perhaps you also agree that "all men are dogs" , 'no man can be trusted', 'all men are stupid', 'men only after one thing', and all those limiting, concluding, and defining categories that women often place men in.

Do you think it is good, healthy, and helpful thing to automatically assume evryone will stab you in the back the minute you turn around?

It's really important to not be blind. And it is important to be alert, and aware, not only with her, but yourself as well.

But worrying about things you CANNOT "CONTROL" doesnt do anyone good.

This is why associating only with women with high character is important if you dont want to be worrying all the time, and live in anxiety , fear, and restlessness about 'what is she doing?' when she's away.


Ultimately a person is only as strong as their weakest link.

And you have to be prepared for people to reveal their 'true colors'.

And handle it well, with class, self respect, and dignity.

Remember that most perceived 'offenses' are really nothing more than one's Ego being 'attacked'.

Jealousy and possesivenes, and clingy,controlling behavior all really come from insecurity, and a feeling of a loss of control.

Who likes being 'controlled'??

(You may say "yeah, but she LIKES being conrolled!" and you may be right, but does it do her justice? Is it truly the RIGHT thing to do? DO you REALLY want that kind of woman around? Knowing that to be controlled in a domineering, intimidating manner is not healthy? Some people like to self mutilate themselves, does it make it 'right'?? Just a question to ask oneself. )

It may be a good idea to think about why a healthy ,sexual, attractive , and masculine man would need to be 'controlling' in order to keep some female 'interested' in him.


You're not really hurt if you dont operate from Ego validation.



And if you have true self esteem, and KNOW that you're a good man, and a good catch anyway, and have no problem attracting other women, you are not really going to be to phased by it.

Try to discern if it's your Ego thats being hurt, or are you really in Danger?

Good luck. I know it can be tough.

But theres not much you can do about HER...it's all about how YOU Respond to these things.
Sorry for the late come-back. I just came back from vacation myself your post really opened up my eyes and made me realize some things and made me feel better. I believe its bothering me because in the past there was something she did that killed me. On her B-day I couldnt come down and I told her this the last minute and it was my fault. She was driving down to this club to see this guy friend that she met while we were together, sum big shot good looking muscular guy a promoter that apparantly has a GF (HER WORDS TO CALM ME DOWN)

she said she is breaking up with me because I couldnt come down, i knew it was bull**** she was just mad. Then in the middle of the night she calls me at 3 AM DRUNK of her mind,,. telling me how this promoter is an amazing guy and how he told her shes not being Fvcked right.... and other **** (I dont really want to talk about it it pisses me of) I almost broke up with her..... then wen she sobered up she was sorry and told me she was just mad and that nothing happ between them..... I mean cmon man how would I know if something happ or not... she tells me know..... but you never can be sure....

This past 4 months ago.... thats why now... I believe that if she goes there she can get drunk and do something stupid.....for 4 days.... I would never know if she did anything or didnt....

When I first met her... I was a man I didnt care about her.... and wasnt sweet And all I could hang up on her if she told me soemthing stupid.... Now since I care about her Im like softer and not all hardcore.... I mean shes not taking advantage of me I still control ground..... but I just dont know why I can be soo weak on the inside.... I want to learn to break myself be a man... and if she deosnt follow up just break up with her and move on...

What do you think?
 

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LovelyLady said:
Man #1 : Freaked out about me doing a road trip alone. He did not trust me.
I stopped seeing him when this happened.

Man #2 trusts me completely - even teases me about things I do alone/when I go out. I adore him and can't get enough of him.
Whatever, you're a woman. You wouldn't know what you like or don't like anyway.

Kontroller made a great point. If this girl had any respect for him, she wouldn't INSIST on going to a place like South Beach alone. We all know what type of thing happens down there, and it's total bvllshyt that she'd even consider going there without him.

It's the same old crap. If you throw a fit, she'll go anyway and cheat on you. If you act totally fine with it, she'll go anyway and cheat on you. She's a hor, dump her.
 

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