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Getting flaked on by escorts

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Phyzzle said:
What goal do you have in mind? Are you going for one night stands? What I'm wondering, is your problem pulling, or keeping the ones you've pulled around? What happened to the girl from August?

Even the bigshot pick up artists have months-long flings. They don't actually go to the clubs for a new girl every time they're horny.
Well, I particularly go for the f*ck buddy situation. That to me is an ideal situation to be in as far as I'm concerned. The relationship thing is nice too, but I'd be fine in life banging multiples of HOT women in a given month.

I always aim for the one-nighters. Any women I meet through one-nighters, I like to keep it going for as long as it can(in the form of f*ck buddy situations).

The dilema here, is simply walking into a bar/club and getting vibes from hot women, as well as them loosing interest(if they're interested to begin with, which is rare). The hot typical "trendy" chick from August who invited me back to her place to sleep over that same night I met her, I never ended up calling. It's a shame she looked like one of my friends and turned me off, because everyone thought she was hot, including me at first, until I realized she looked like my f*ckin' friend, lol.
 

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Edger, are you saying that given a certain level of woman that you can attract and have sex for free, you feel the need to pay for sex with a higher level of woman? It sounds like you saying that you can only pickup less attractive women that are below a sufficient level of attractiveness that you must have to have a fulfilling sexual encounter.

It makes perfect sense to me, although (in areas out side the USA) I can pull decent enough women for free, but I can buy a top notch woman, and to me the extra expense is just worth it.

Of course, there is always the Charlie Sheen reason to use escorts - a valid reason IMHO as well.
 

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edger said:
How is it confusing? I've been saying, yes, I "pull", but only from time to time. And when I say "pull", I mean getting laid. Last time I actually got laid the natural way was last April of '07. I've had 2 other opportunities that I can remember off the top of my head, one was last summer and the other was in Novermber of '07, but during my interaction with them, I realized I wasn't physically attracted to them. One looked like my friend a little, lol, and the other I realized I just wasn't attracted to her physically. But to you or anyone else, you'd probably think they were hot. I know my other buddies thought so. But I'm pretty picky, I can't help it. And by the way, one was your typical "trendy" girly girly girl, and the other was a rocker chick who dressed sexy.
It's confusing, because AGAIN, you're "reeling them in" all the time, yet you're complaining about a stupid escort that you have to pay for anyways. Do you get it now, or do you have problems focusing???? In essence, you're letting ONE dumb, red herring situation ruin your night. WHO CARES???? Go find ANOTHER ONE! That's some of what this forum's about.
 

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MatureDJ said:
Edger, are you saying that given a certain level of woman that you can attract and have sex for free, you feel the need to pay for sex with a higher level of woman? It sounds like you saying that you can only pickup less attractive women that are below a sufficient level of attractiveness that you must have to have a fulfilling sexual encounter.
Yes, exactly. The greater majority of women who throw "vibes" my way, cold-approach me, or seem like they wanna have sex with me, are unattractive. And like I've said many times, the LAST thing I'll ever do is settle like a lot of guys out there. It's like, have some f*ckin' standards man. Hire a HOT escort, you'll be much more pleased and happier. Trust me. Your load will shoot out like a high powered fire hose:up: ;) ..lol.
 

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edger said:
Hire a HOT escort, you'll be much more pleased and happier. Trust me. Your load will shoot out like a high powered fire hose:up: ;) ..lol.
I love it! A middle-aged friend of mine said that he figured out natural Viagra - a hot, 18 y.o. woman!
 

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evelsteve said:
It's confusing, because AGAIN, you're "reeling them in" all the time, yet you're complaining about a stupid escort that you have to pay for anyways. Do you get it now, or do you have problems focusing???? In essence, you're letting ONE dumb, red herring situation ruin your night. WHO CARES???? Go find ANOTHER ONE! That's some of what this forum's about.
?? Where have I said "I'm reeling them in all the time"? All I keep reiterating in this thread is how MOST of the time(you hear that? M O S T) it's been difficult pulling(getting laid) hot chix, how it happens every once in a blue moon with me. Partner, I think you're the one who has the problem focusing. Now until you learn how to read, make sense, be rational, and not act and sound like a nutjob, and have a better attitude(you've had a poor attitude from the start in this thread), then perhaps maybe, just maybe, I'll give you the time of the day. Until then..:moon:;)
 

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edger said:
?? Where have I said "I'm reeling them in all the time"? All I keep reiterating in this thread is how MOST of the time(you hear that? M O S T) it's been difficult pulling(getting laid) hot chix, how it happens every once in a blue moon with me. Partner, I think you're the one who has the problem focusing. Now until you learn how to read, make sense, be rational, and not act and sound like a nutjob, and have a better attitude(you've had a poor attitude from the start in this thread), then perhaps maybe, just maybe, I'll give you the time of the day. Until then..:moon:;)
I find it interesting this guy not only lacks focus ( with consistent scatter-brained responses), but he gets on a high horse, after HE's the one paying for hookers. Incredible. No WONDER he can't even get a prostitute. I wouldn't want the time from you if it saved my life, because you'd obviously give me the wrong hour every time. You've just answered everyone's questions including your own, by your own responses. Look in the mirror, for once.:crackup:
 

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Just wanted to resurface this thread to say that apparently I'm not the only one who has been flaked on by a number of escorts in the past. Apparently, according to posters on 'the Erotic Review'(review site and discussion board on escorts), it's a frequent occurence in the hobby.
 

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The Inside Man said:
My thoughts? ****ing pathetic. Give up on the escorts already bro!
My thoughts? You're a pretty amusing guy who probably flames others out of his own insecurity and failings with attractive women, all in an effort to make himself look like "the bigshot" who scores lots of hotties. I could probably bet you're not getting laid by any hb's on a regular basis yourself. If only more guys would admit that. At least I've got the BALLS to put down my pride and do that, and go as far and admit that I've messed around with escorts. I've got news for ya, a GREAT GREAT amount of men out there are struggling in this game. Those include the good-looking ones with good/decent game, the ugly ones with good/decent game, the ugly guys with no game, the good-looking guys with no game, etc., etc. I know this guy in the club circuit who is a model here in NYC who tells me he is struggling himself. So that should tell you a few things about this game. Word of wisdom in case you haven't heard yet: a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do, after he's done everything possible in this game, in which he has no other choice, but to resort to a last option. Maybe you'll be able to understand that someday. Till then, you have any other solutions? I've tried them all. :)
 

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Edger, this value system of yours, where you equate some form of moral superiority with being humble enough to use an escort and not settle for lesser quality, is somewhat perplexing.

As a SS veteran with 1600 posts under your belt you should not be surprised or outraged if you get some mild application of the blowtorch from other members.

So what if there is a male model in NYC who can't attract a woman? Should you regard that limited sample as being proof of something. The population of your city is almost half of the entire population of my country. And yet, it is populated with only unavailable women and "attractive" escorts?
 

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ElChoclo said:
So what if there is a male model in NYC who can't attract a woman? Should you regard that limited sample as being proof of something. The population of your city is almost half of the entire population of my country. And yet, it is populated with only unavailable women and "attractive" escorts?
The model example is not the only proof, which is what I've been saying. Guess you haven't been around the board enough to read my past posts on the matter. I myself am proof of it too(I'm above avg.-looking as I've been told countless times, by men and women alike). And the abundance of below avg.-looking guys with attractive women are especially proof of it. My dad too is further proof. My dad's a good-looking guy. I asked him a few months ago how often he got vibed by attractive women in his younger days. He told me not often, that most of the time women would pass him up on the street without looking at him once. And my dad was your typical well-kept conservative looking type of guy all his life. "Mr. GQ" looks as I like to call it. And then there's this guy I work with, very good-looking Italian dude. Another "Mr. GQ" looking guy. Yuppy, well-kept, etc. And even he struggles with attractive chicks. This guy came with me to Amsterdam on my last trip to also indulge in the prostitutes. Some of these guys on the forum here are also proof. My buddies observing what I observe is also proof. A good friend of mine, a below avg.-looking guy(who even admits he's below avg.-looking), even he tells me he's been able to score(f*ck) quite a few hot women in the past. Is that enough proof for ya? Hey listen, you see what you see, and I see what I see. This is what I'm observing out there. I don't wish to make this stuff up. What could I possibly gain on here to make this stuff up?

Most women are not phased by a good-looking guys good looks.


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As a SS veteran with 1600 posts under your belt you should not be surprised or outraged if you get some mild application of the blowtorch from other members.
All I have to say is, the guys who flame me for this, should be glad and grateful that THEY'RE not in this terrible situation, as it could've or could very well be them one day. I would never flame anybody here for that.
 

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If some guy wants to fvuck a pro then so be it. No different to some regular afc dude parting out a couple hundred or more on a dinner and drinks with some woman that he isn't even sure is going to let him lay her.

I don't understand being flaked on by a pro though. Your paying for a service - although its hardly a service you could publicly complain about - you would have some balls to ring public radio talkback and complain about the skanky hooker beeatch whom stood you up! lol. that would make for some interesting responses from the public at large.
 

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I don't understand being flaked on by a pro though. Your paying for a service
Yeah it's pretty bizarre. And like I said, it's not only happened with me, but I hear it's actually a common thing. I remember my friend telling me he also got stood up before. On the avgerage these women get paid $300 or more, just to make a guy c*m. You can't beat that. Why any woman would want to pass up such easy money like that, is beyond me. Sure, I can understand if the guy came off shady or like a weirdo/psycho on the phone, but why she'd stand up any normal person, is beyond me. So I guess the moral of the story, is, even escorts who you are willing to pay $300 and up are tough to get in the sack. I guess that would further prove that not all hot women are about $$$$.
 

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edger,

In what parts of NYC are you going out? And what borough do you live in?
I'm not from Manhattan, I'm on Long Island. I didn't mean to make it sound like I'm from NYC. I'm there literally every weekend though, so I guess you could say I live there, lol. It's basically my home. I just happen to sleep and wake up on Long Island...lol. I hang out in Manhattan, lower east side(think Ave A, 2nd Ave and 6th St. area, Ludlow St, Stanton St., you get the picture). I used to do the Williamsburg, Brooklyn thing a couple of yrs ago, but those indie rock chicks are just as difficult as any other chick. Lots of them are hot, but tough pulls. Never get vibes from them, and they're supposed to be into the whole "musician/rocker" look. The whole indie rock scene is basically a bunch of new age hippies, so by theory(eventhough I realize that just because you sport a style from a particular scene doesn't mean crap to most of the hot women from that scene)you would think I'd have no trouble getting vibes from these chicks, but that's not the case here.

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Latinoman is technically right....in theory, you can get laid at least once a week in this town if you try. I live here, and I know the only reason I don't get laid that often (by different women) is my own laziness/unwillingness to hit the bars (and spend money) or hit on wo.men in the many public gathering spots here.
Getting laid once a week by a different hottie in Manhattan would be nice, if only it were a perfect world. The reason it's not happening with me is because these hot women pay me no attention when I'm out there most of the time(and like I said, I'm an above avg.-looking guy, sport a cool style, and stand confident), meaning, I'm not getting vibes from them, you know, that "I'm interested in you look". Sure, I can cold-approach, which I'm a big advocate of, but it takes a lot of f*ckin' balls to do that, and 98% of the time, I lack the balls to do it, I'm not gonna lie. It's tough to muster up the balls to approach a woman who's a total stranger. I can do it sparingly, but most of the time, I can't, I just wait for vibes.


samspade said:
And you shouldn't be cowed by a woman's platonic male friends. Trust me, if she's out with a "buddy," she is probably looking for someone more exciting to spark her interest. By not approaching, you are weeding yourself out - which is one purpose of the "platonic male friend." The cream rises to the top.
Do you know how awkward it is to approach a woman who's with one or more of her platonic guy friends? Maybe it doesn't bother you, but it bothers me. It makes me feel real funny walking up to a chick who's standing right next to her guy friend. Not that I'm intimidated by any means, but it's just a weird way to go about approaching a woman. Plus, lots of times, it's hard to tell if they're f*cking too.

samspade said:
Anyway, I live in Brooklyn, and in a lot of the more "neighborhood" style bars, I see single women out by themselves all the time. This holds true in Manhattan, too, but you have to avoid the more obvious meat markets and hit the small, cozy spots.
What area of Brooklyn are you talking about and what kind of crowd hangs out in the bars you go to, I'm just curious?

samspade said:
Anyway, I can PM you some suggestions for places if you like.
Yeah, that would be cool, please do, thanks. It really puts a damper on your night when you see virtually every hottie with some guy or group of guys.

By the way Sam, I'd still use high-end prostitutes even if I were getting laid by different hot women on a regular basis. I just find it really hot that an attractive woman will put out for any guy.
 
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