Getting dumped when you did nothing wrong

[bigneil]

Women in love don't leave. Ever. They can't leave. That's what love is. If she's in love with you, you could run her over in your car and she'd say it was an accident. Don't you see, gents?

Ok, but love vanishes in an instant.

The "if she loved you, you could shoot her with a shotgun and she'd still love you" narrative is getting old.

Coach Corey Wayne said "Any time you are dating a girl and her ex comes back in the picture, if she had more time invested with him and had a stronger emotional bond, she'll choose him 99% of the time, even if your game was tight".

All women pull back at some point. All women. EyeBRollin is pretending love conquers women. Sadly, it does not.

If what you say is true, women would never, ever leave the man they married, because they loved him. In reality, women fall out of love. They get drunk and have sex and catch feelings for the latest guy. You were once that guy. You probably won't be forever.

"Love has a nasty habit of disappearing overnight" - Paul McCartney

 

[EyeBRollin]

Ok, but love vanishes in an instant.

No, it doesn't. It intensifies or dilutes over time based on your actions.

The "if she loved you, you could shoot her with a shotgun and she'd still love you" narrative is getting old.

Reality is getting old? I'm just keeping it real with you. I'm on your side. Women in love DO NOT leave. They can't leave. That's a contradiction.

Coach Corey Wayne said "Any time you are dating a girl and her ex comes back in the picture, if she had more time invested with him and had a stronger emotional bond, she'll choose him 99% of the time, even if your game was tight".

That's a half truth, and it's why you should always make no contact with exes a condition of your relationship. But once you have significant time in with a woman (6+ months), she's not going to leave you for an ex for any reason other than you became a weak **** that stopped doing what got her in the first place.

All women pull back at some point. All women. EyeBRollin is pretending love conquers women. Sadly, it does not.

Women are like unions; they're into seniority. Your wife may pull back, but she isn't divorcing you simply because she feels bleh for a few days. It takes weeks or even months of your weak behavior before she truly gives up on you. The problem is most men's ego prevents them from seeing this until it is too late.

Love absolutely conquers women. A woman in love is conquered. You become her air. She needs you. A woman in love cannot walk away. Why can't you accept this?

If a woman dumps you, her proclamations of love are bull****. That's a dual reality. Both cannot exist simultaneously. A woman in love cannot dump you. But she'll tell you she's in love because your fragile ego can't handle it.

If what you say is true, women would never, ever leave the man they married, because they loved him.

Love is conditional. Just because she loved him 5 years ago doesn't mean she loves him today. And just because they are married doesn't mean she actually loved him. Some women marry for stability, a green card, or to get out of the house.

In reality, women fall out of love. They get drunk and have sex and catch feelings for the latest guy. You were once that guy. You probably won't be forever.

Women fall out of love when the man they loved turns them off. Men need to accept responsibility for this and learn how to maintain a relationship.

 

[bigneil]

No, it doesn't. It intensifies or dilutes over time based on your actions.
Women in love DO NOT leave. They can't leave. That's a contradiction.

I get it. You are saying "If every girl you ever dated isn't still head over heels in love with you, that proves you were a weak b!tch".

In a recent example, I was dating a married woman who lived with a man she had fallen out of love with. She initiated a divorce. That changed everything and I haven't seen her since. She is now dating someone she knew since age 13.

Was she supposed to tell everyone "Hey, meet Neil, he's 47 and we've been having an affair for nearly a year"?

I was not a weak b!tch. In fact, I was never stronger in my life I walked away. She's 21. And she'll probably come back and tell me she still loves me anyway.

Also, I lost 15 pounds since I last saw her, so the person who may have turned her off doesn't exist anymore anyhow. The person I was when I seduced her last year is long gone, I was desperate then. Now I am finding I can pick up lots of women her age.

Love is conditional.

Now you're contradicting yourself.

 

[bigneil]

A woman in love cannot walk away. Why can't you accept this?

I very recently had a woman in love with me. I have 30 years experience dating beautiful women so I can say with authority she loved me as much as anyone else. Maybe all of your women always loved you more than any of my women ever loved me, but I doubt it.

Anyhow her love didn't last forever and/or is on hold. Why can't you accept that?

The last time I felt her body quiver, the last question I asked her was "Did you just come?" and she said "Like three times!!" and I walked her to her car within the next 30 minutes. I never saw her again. I'm pretty sure I didn't turn her off in person.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I get it. You are saying "If every girl you ever dated isn't still head over heels in love with you, that proves you were a weak b!tch".

It proves you did not properly game her consistently over time. If you do so correctly, she falls in love. Every woman that I get on the hook falls in love within 2-4 months, based on her own natural timeline.

Now you're contradicting yourself.

You sure about that?

No, it doesn't. It intensifies or dilutes over time based on your actions.

Women fall out of love when the man they loved turns them off. Men need to accept responsibility for this and learn how to maintain a relationship.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I very recently had a woman in love with me. I have 30 years experience dating beautiful women so I can say with authority she loved me as much as anyone else. Maybe all of your women always loved you more than any of my women ever loved me, but I doubt it.

Anyhow her love didn't last forever and/or is on hold. Why can't you accept that?

You messed up somewhere.

The last time I felt her body quiver, the last question I asked her was "Did you just come?" and she said "Like three times!!" and I walked her to her car within the next 30 minutes. I never saw her again. I'm pretty sure I didn't turn her off in person.

You gave her great sex. Congratulations. If she loved you, she would be blowing up your phone.

I'm on your side bigneil. I'm just speaking reality into the situations you present. Women in love don't leave their men.

 

[bigneil]

I understand the concept of taking blame, but what @EyeBRollin is doing is called vast oversimplification.

I have a unique situation here and he's trying to come up with a one sized fits all solution, but it dissolves into a non-argument. If she has two men she has to choose from, you can't prove that the one she didn't choose turned her off. She's the most beautiful girl in the world and 25 years my junior. To pretend she should have had an eternal love like EyeBRollin is referring to is almost absurd.

Anyhow, I ended it, not her, so "you messed up somewhere" is not very helpful. Also, I documented almost everything here so it would be nice if someone said where I messed up. She last wrote "please know that I love you and my feelings for you have not changed".

Anyhow, what is your point? To make them love you (undefined) and it will last forever?

She was blowing up my phone for a record 16 straight days, and asked me if she could live with me if she needed to, and then filed for the divorce. That was when everything changed. Coincidence? You don't think a girl going through a divorce at age 21 might be a teensy factor in messing up her affair with me? Now you're being an ignoramus.

So in order to claim his one sized fits all solution works in every case, EyeBRollin is saying a divorce is a non factor. Coach Corey Wayne said "If you are dealing with a woman who is going through a divorce, count on her emotions being all over the place, count on being yanked around, count on getting friend zoned".

Is it even possible for her to end a relationship with me and him at the same time? I set her 100% free and told her to call me next year.

 

[bigneil]

It proves you did not properly game her consistently over time. If you do so correctly, she falls in love. Every woman that I get on the hook falls in love within 2-4 months, based on her own natural timeline.

And all of your women are still with you? So you messed up every one? Even ones you dumped?

My last girlfriend did fall in love between 2-4 months. And for 4 months she loved me, and followed through with the divorce, and I haven't seen her since. I imagine when I do we will pick up where we left off, with amazing chemistry.

Wait, EyeBRollin is saying girls never fall out of love? So she's either with you forever, unconditionally (Conditionally - that's not a contradiction though) or it wasn't love? You're confusing love with the greatest love of her life.

"Properly game her"? She was my sex slave for 9 months. She made love to me on the first date and the last date.

Anyhow, I ended it for now.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I understand the concept of taking blame, but what @EyeBRollin is doing is called vast oversimplification.

It's not. Men have difficulty being objective about a woman's actions. If she actually loves you, she ain't goin anywhere. It is that cut and dry.

I have a unique situation here and he's trying to come up with a one sized fits all solution, but it dissolves into a non-argument. If she has two men she has to choose from, you can't prove that the one she didn't choose turned her off. She's the most beautiful girl in the world and 25 years my junior. To pretend she should have had an eternal love like EyeBRollin is referring to is almost absurd.

I go through this every day with people I know. The rationalizations about how their situation is different. How many variations of one person dropping the other are there?

Bottom line: if two potential lovers meet, they either break up or get married.

Women don't leave men they are in love with. That's it. There's nothing else. Stop rationalizing her dropping you.

Anyhow, I ended it, not her, so "you messed up somewhere" is not very helpful. Also, I documented almost everything here so it would be nice if someone said where I messed up. She last wrote "please know that I love you and my feelings for you have not changed".

Anyhow, what is your point? To make them love you (undefined) and it will last forever?

She loves you, she won't leave. Your job is to make her fall for you and maintain that love she has for you.

She was blowing up my phone for a record 16 straight days, and asked me if she could live with me if she needed to, and then filed for the divorce. That was when everything changed. Coincidence? You don't think a girl going through a divorce at age 21 might be a teensy factor in messing up her affair with me? Now you're being an ignoramus.

You're overanalyzing. She can't love you and leave you at the same time. One of those is false. Guess which one it is?

So in order to claim his one sized fits all solution works in every case, EyeBRollin is saying a divorce is a non factor. Coach Corey Wayne said "If you are dealing with a woman who is going through a divorce, count on her emotions being all over the place, count on being yanked around, count on getting friend zoned".

Now you're clining to strawmen arguments as a last ditch rationalization. Sorry pal, I'm on your side. I'm showing men here the error of their ways. If a woman loves you, she can't be dumping you.

Is it even possible for her to end a relationship with me and him at the same time? I set her 100% free and told her to call me next year.

Yep. She dumped both of you.

 

[EyeBRollin]

And all of your women are still with you? So you messed up every one? Even ones you dumped?

I dumped my last two exes since being a student of the game. One moved on, the other still tries to contact me. I dumped them. I'm sure the one still calling me still has love feelings.

My last girlfriend did fall in love between 2-4 months. And for 4 months she loved me, and followed through with the divorce, and I haven't seen her since. I imagine when I do we will pick up where we left off, with amazing chemistry.

Wait, EyeBRollin is saying girls never fall out of love? So she's either with you forever, unconditionally (Conditionally - that's not a contradiction though) or it wasn't love? You're confusing love with the greatest love of her life.

I NEVER said romantic love was unconditional. Romantic love is purely conditional. Unconditional love is the love between parent and child, or between siblings, or between human and pet.

"Properly game her"? She was my sex slave for 9 months. She made love to me on the first date and the last date.

Anyhow, I ended it for now.

Sex =/= love. Never did, never will.

 

[bigneil]

She "dumped me"? Hmmm.... our text thread ends with her saying "Let me know if you change your mind about meeting".

I ended it.

Oh, and now we see - @EyeBRollin dumped his girls, but my girl dumped me. Because you should take his advice, you see? I've never had love, but he has. You see? He's on my side!

But we see EyeBRollin's main point: kick bigneil when he might seem down, with a side of "I'm on his side". But you see, I have 5 other girls in my phone now, and one is blowing up my phone already. I have an abundance of gorgeous young women.

Every time I have every tried to have an "argument" with @EyeBRollin I return to the same conclusion: I am dealing with a woman. One who did NOT like those photos I sent.

Coach Corey Wayne > EyeBRollin.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No, my point was the entire thread about women dumping you if you "did nothing wrong" is a contradiction. If you did nothing wrong, she wouldn't be dumping you. You call it an oversimplification. Reality is actually simple.

She can't love you and leave you at the same time. She's dumping you because you screwed it up.

 

[btownbuck2012]

No, my point was the entire thread about women dumping you if you "did nothing wrong" is a contradiction. If you did nothing wrong, she wouldn't be dumping you. You call it an oversimplification. Reality is actually simple.

She can't love you and leave you at the same time. She's dumping you because you screwed it up.

Wrong.

There are both women and men who have deep seated intimacy issues that actually cause them to push people away when things become too perfect.

Your black and white "well if you are perfect then she won't leave" argument is flawed and too simplistic to fully encapsulate and account for human nature as a whole.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Wrong.

There are both women and men who have deep seated intimacy issues that actually cause them to push people away when things become too perfect.

Your black and white "well if you are perfect then she won't leave" argument is flawed and too simplistic to fully encapsulate and account for human nature as a whole.

Yea okay. That was half rationalization and half excusing the stupid. Why are you involved with someone with deep seated intimacy issue? Are you suggesting men date women with BPD and screwed up lives?

 

[bigneil]

No, my point was the entire thread about women dumping you if you "did nothing wrong" is a contradiction. If you did nothing wrong, she wouldn't be dumping you. You call it an oversimplification. Reality is actually simple.

She can't love you and leave you at the same time. She's dumping you because you screwed it up.

In general this is true.

In my case I did not get dumped.

PM me photos of your girls who loved you and well get them rated.

 

[EyeBRollin]

PM me photos of your girls and well get them rated.

Why do you care?

We're here to talk about gaming women. Focus, buddy.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Yea okay. That was half rationalization and half excusing the stupid. Why are you involved with someone with deep seated intimacy issue? Are you suggesting men date women with BPD and screwed up lives?

Because people with intimacy issues, and a variety of other problems, cover it up very well for a long time. No one flaunts their dirty laundry in front of people who they are attracted too or want to be involved with initially.

 

[bigneil]

Yea okay. That was half rationalization and half excusing...Are you suggesting men date women with BPD and screwed up lives?

What does BPD have to do with anything? You said it's only about love. I never blamed BPD even though she was diagnosed twice.

Screwed up lives? Admit it, you are a woman. Any man would have told me how hot she is when they saw those photos I sent you. You're a fat girl.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Because people with intimacy issues, and a variety of other problems, cover it up very well for a long time. No one flaunts their dirty laundry in front of people who they are attracted too or want to be involved with initially.

You have to carefully vet them over time. The signs show up in the dating process.

What does BPD have to do with anything? You said it's only about love. I never blamed BPD even though she was diagnosed twice.

Screwed up lives? Admit it, you are a woman. Any man would have told me how hot she is when they saw those photos I sent you. You're a fat girl.

Why are you seeking my validation about women you've dated?