Getting Divorced- Boy was that a Disaster!

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The last three months have been pure hell for me. I have no one but myself to blame for what happened (well I could blame my soon to be Ex-wife, but its much more constructive to look at what I did wrong and make sure I don't make the same mistakes again).

It all started back in January. It was the weekend and I went clubbing. I finally had a signifigant amount of free time, and I was determined to spin plates/setup a nice stable of **** buddies. That did not happen. I saw a girl in a night club. I disturbing feeling in my gut when I laid eyes on her, I ignored it. I met a girl in a nightclub, we hit it off. We danced. We talked. We laughed We had pizza. Friend asks her if she is going to **** me or not? She and her friends dropped me off at my place (I was walking distance from the philly nightlife). I tried to take her up to my place after making out, she plated hard to get and went home.

We had more dates. We went iceskating. We watched starwars and family guy. We banged on the 4th date- and she slept at my place. Pretty soon she was sleeping over every night. More and more of my time was being monopolized by this woman. I didn't mind- she seemed wonderful. The dream girl that guys always want. Pretty, smart, funny, fun, and best of all- she was in love with me! What more could a guy ask for?

A month went by. Two months. Uh oh, she's pregnant! Well, no biggie. She is wonderful. All a guy could hope for! What's the problem. It's only b-itches and h-oes that are problems! My girl is not one of those, she's great, a nice catholic girl with morals- she even sang the lead in her church choir in college! It's not being guilted into "doing the right thing" by marrying her- its simply moving the schedule forward! I went out with a friend- we got drunk. I looked around at all the women in the club- they were all "stupid, shallow, and low quality" not like my girl! My girl was wonderful! She didn't have any red flags! (That I chose to acknowledge.....) Why was I wasting time in this club when I could be with my girl- the girl who was carrying my child? That wonderful woman! I drove to her place. I "made love to her" I proposed to her in the middle of it- telling her how much I loved her. Next day we went to IHOP. I told her I meant it. We were engaged.

Girl tells me that she wants me to move in with her. I say ok. Afterall, we're enganged and she's pregnant. Just moving the timetable forward, that's all. Did I mention how wonderful she was? Well she was- and then I moved in. I go to work- and she snoops through my computer. She finds porn (which she said was fine, and which she admitted to using and loving back when we were dating!), alpha male stuff, saved posts on pick-up/Mens Rights/Tucker Max/menarebetterthanwomen. She calls me a pervert and mysogynist. Tells me that I hate women, and that I don't find her attractive anymore now that she's pregnant. I told her that was old stuff from back when I was single- that some of it was for meeting women and the rest was simply for humor- I thought it was funny and that I didn't seriously beleive it. I wasn't really a mysogynist! She accuses me of being an unfaithful woman hating player who was only interested in sex. She says that my always checking out other women when I was with her was proof of it, I was a "looker" just like her dad- and it was only a matter of time before I cheated on her! (Did I mention her dad cheated on her mom, for a decade, and they got divorced?)

I deny the charges many times, but I said I understood her perspetive. I would change for her; I would delete all the "bad stuff" on my hard drive. I would stop looking at other women. I compromised. I wanted for us to be happy.

She started acting like a *****. She blamed it on me and my harddrive material and on her pregnancy hormones. I am understanding and accept that. Afterall, she was nice for the first 4 months we knew each other. It makes only makes sense......

She starts saying that we should get an abortion. We aren't finiacally secure. She'll have to take off work for the baby and I'm still in school. There has to be an income. I tell her that we'll be ok. We can live off my loan money for school until I graduate and get a job. It's doable (it was). We just have to give it a chance. She starts blaming me as well. Bringing up the "looking" and old hard drive material. I am rolling my eyes inside at this point, but I accept that its just her hormones.

I start listening to Tom Lycus on my IPOD alot on my drives to and from work (didn't want to provoke her by listening to it at home). I take special notice of his "woman are dream killers", "women are actors until they have you in an unescapable commitment" and "women will get dilberately pregnant to trap you" themes. I start thinking that may be me.

I call my player friend. Ask him what he thinks. He says that my woman is a hoe who is ****ed up in the head, that a quality woman wouldn't let herself get pissed on (did I mention I did that to her one drunken night when I still considered her a f-buddy only? Did I mention she loved it?) and that I was a fool if I belived her when she said she only did coke "twice" and then quit. (Did I mention that she did coke in her past, and that one time she wanted to do coke when we were drunk and on the town? That I said no, and she tried to buy some from a dealer and only stopped when I said that if she was going to do so she would do it by herself- and then proceeded to hail a cab and hop in) He said that b-itches like her are only good for some quick f-ucks, and then its time to dump her to the curb. He says that if you keep them around they'll ruin your life. He says that he knows two of his friends that got sucked in by *****es like her. One is stuck paying child support. The other is miserable with his fat, nagging, ***** of a wife. He tells me to go with her to get the abortion and then get the **** out. I agree with him.

I go with her. I get cold feet a three times, and I stop her when we're at the clinic- telling her how much I love her. I think we can be happy together. I ignored the red flags and think only of the good times we had and how happy we be together. Finally, one day she is an espically huge *****. After listening to Lycus on the IPOD all day I finally decide not to stop her- its just a clump of cells afterall! She gets the abortion. We walk out of the clinic- I break down crying. I feel like a murder, that I abandoned my child, and that I was a horrible person. I'm an emotional wreck. I tell my family that she had a miscarriage. I'm an emotional wreck for the rest of the week. Finally one day, on the phone, I break down again and tell them it was abortion- my own mother calls me a self monster (they're catholic). I'm a wreck the rest of the night. My girl comforts me. Tells me she loves me. I wake up the next day and she hands me a note she wrote. She tells me how much she loves me, how talanted she thinks I am, how good hearted and wonderful I am. I think it proves how much she loves me and how right she is for me. Shes a good catch, I think- her past is done with- we all make mistakes. I should stay with her. She loves me so much!
 

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I decide to get married to her. We were going to get married anyway afterall. My friend tells me I'm making a mistake. I decide to ignore him from this point forward, I blame him mentally for the abortion and decide not to listen. My dad tells me not to do it, she's not pregnant anymore and tells me that I don't really know her. Says I should take my time and life with her a year or two first, tells me I'm getting the milk for free at this point anyway, so why am I rushing into buying the cow. My fiannce pressures me into marrying her, saying "do you love me or not, are we going to get married or not?" I decide to prover to her how much I love her. I decide that we'll elope. The entire drive there my gut feeling is screaming at me telling me I'm making a mistake. The same feeling I had when I first set eyes on her, the same feeling I had everytime I saw/heard a red flag, the same feeling I had the first time time I banged her after the abortion (in that case my guy was screaming at me to end it and get the hell out). I did the same thing I did everyime I had this feeling- I pressed on anyway. We got married.

So, all was well in good right. We were married. We'd probably have a honeymoon period, where everything would be cozy, for a few months- so I thought. A few days after we were married I get a phone call at work. She is at the apartment pool drinking alot of vodka with her childhood friend. Ok.... I thought we agreed that there would be no hanging out with, or drinking with, the opposite sex in the absence of the other parter. She says her friends dosen't count since he's really ugly and "gay but he dosne't know it". I'm upset, but I don't know what to say at this point. She invites me to join them at the pool when I get home. I say that I just want to go to bed- I had worked 12 hours on 3 hours sleep and I was really tired. I get home and they're drinking together and listening to music, they're both completely plastered. I say to have fun at the pool and I get into bed. She insists that I join them at the pool, when I refuse and stay in bed she responds by blasting the music. I am fed up at this point, and I just want to sleep so after arguing a few minutes I agree to go- just so I can sleep by the pool. We go down there and soon she starts talking **** to her friend about me. I get pissed and soon respond in kind. She escalates- next thing I know I hear my lovely wife, whom I love so much, insulting me in public- telling me that I have a small ****, that its nothing compared to black ****, that she LOOOOVES black **** and that the basketball players she use to **** really laid it to her well. I tell her to **** off and I walk away. She follow me all while telling me how much she HATES ME and how much she LOOVES Black ****. We get to the apartment- I tell her I am leaving her. I start packing up my things. I grab the letter she wrote me after the abortion, the one where she told me how special I was and how much I meant to her- I throw it at her tell her that it was obviously a lie and complete bull****. She goes and lays down on the bed. I do the only thing I can think of to show all the frustration, anger, and hatred I have for her in that moment- I throw a glass of water on her and call her a lying malcious b-itch. She freaks out. Says that no one does that to her. Starts throwing and destroying my property. Throws my TV onto the floor. Throws my computer monitor against the freezer. Starts throwing cans of corn at me. I tell her she's psycho and start carrying **** to my car. In and out I go- and I hear her crying on the phone to her mom, saying that she made a mistake and that she loves me. She asks for a hug- tells me she's so sorry- that she's just resentful over the abortion- she blames me for it saying I made her feel "insecure" with the things on my computer and with the "looking"; that she loves me and that she's sorry (while crying the whole time). I buy it and forgive her.........

Needless to stay (meant to say say, but I'm going to leave it like that because its probably a Freudian slip) this was only the first of many fights in the following weeks and topics included:

-Her constant insistance that an open marriage/swinging would be healthy for the relationship since we were both still young and horney looking to "sow our oats" and me telling her that she was f-ucking insane if she thought that I would stay in that sort of marriage. That that's not what marriage meant to me, and that I would get divored before I did that espically since I would be liable for raising/paying child support for another man's child if she got knocked up doing these things.

-Her constantly using the fact that I was totally against these things to provoke me and push my buttons

-Her stating on multiple occasions that she thought we should breakup/seperate and that we werent right for each other- and me saying that we should try to make it work since we were married (she did this back when she was pregnant too- and I said "make it work for the baby"; turns out she was just using it as a huge powerplay, a way to sieze control of the frame whenever I did/was on the verge of doing so.)

-Her insistance on seeing her male friends... alone and going to the meat market area with her female friends for "drinks" (aka girls night out) and my total opposition to this.

-Unprovoked Insults

-She left me in the middle of the city at NIGHT once- when I got out of the car after I was sick of listening to her insults in the middle of a fight. She went home, refused to pick me up that night AND the next day. Said it was my fault for being stupid and getting out of the car in the first place. :cuss: Luckily I had a friend I could stay with for the night. Had to take the train the next day......

-Left during the middle of Dark Knight because "she didnt like how it portrayed women". (this is the same women that would never pay for dinner back when she was single) I refused to leave with her. Home was 5 mins away. Did she take a cab or ask for the keys? No. I found her drinking at a bar and flirting with other men when I got out of the theater.

-Told me she ****ked over 30 guys in one year one night when she was drunk. That she used guys to take her to fancy resteraunts, that she went to NYC- ****ed a cop in a back seat of a cop car in an alley, and then went and had dinner with her "boyfriend" lawyer later that same day

Even after all this, I was still buying her bull**** about loving me after every fight. I accepted the whole "we are both contributing to the problem" line, I accepted the guilt she laid on me. All while this was happening I was getting up at 4:30 AM and usually working till early/late evening. I ad to come home and deal with this ****. I had to spend my weekends dealing with this ****. I was mentally, emotionally, and physically exhausted.

The last straw was when she provoked a fight when visiting me for lunch one day. I jokingly remarked "yea, during marriage sometimes guys just zone out and they don't hear what their wife is saying" she flips out at this and starts a fight over it. She says she's going home and walks away. I'm pissed and I let her. I let it go. Later that day I go home- no one is home, but I decide to take a nap. I get a call from her telling me that she thinks we should get seperated, I ask her where she is- she says meeting a friend for drinks..

I had had it with her. I get ready to move out, get my **** together. I'm getting my **** out when she comes home. She uses her typical tactics to get me to stay again. I stay... again. But this time I was done with it. I had reached the tipping point, every morning I would wake up wondering why the **** I was still at her place, still married to her. I could no longer excuse away her behavior, I could no longer accept the guilt she said at my feet. I told her I was leaving- she begged me to stay, said that would change, that she had turned a new leaf, that life would be different now, that we were soul mates and were meant to be together, that she would do everything she could to prove her love to me. I told her that she had six weeks of marriage to prove her love to me, and she had failed miserably; that I had gone from begging her to stay when she did that "seperation" crap for the first time to moving out and getting a divorce because of her, that she had no one to blame but herself for the situation she was in now (she was "crying" alot when I read her the riot act for how ****tily she treated me).

I'm moved out now, and I'm filing for divorce today. I can't even relate how good I feel today, I feel happier then I've been in a long time and I realize that I have something that I've been missing for a long time. Hope and Optimism.

Next time: Lessons I learned.
 

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Just think, all that could have been avoided if you had done one, simple, little thing....





...used a condom.
 

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I'm moved out now, and I'm filing for divorce today. I can't even relate how good I feel today
Welcome to your new life! Free of all the garbage that came with this woman.

I can't even count how many red flags are here, but you seem to be able to pick them out. Good job. The ability to identify red flags will prevent you from making similar mistakes in the future.
 

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Geeezzz.....how familiar does this sound??

I bet this is not over yet....these women are very skilled at sucking their prey back in for another round
 

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Poor guy.

Lessons to learn:

Love is blind
Wait till the infatuation wears off before you think of any sort of commitment with a girl, most of them can only keep up the wonderful girl up for a few months
If a woman pressures you to commit, don't
If you find out a girl has a father that cheated on her mother she is unlikely to trust men and therefore unlikely to trust you
Don't let a girl near your computer...password protect...and if she doesn't respect your privacy that is another red flag
Listen to Tom Lykos
If you are talking of "making it work" two months in, its not going to work
Listen to your gut feeling...if you are feeling uneasy its for a good reason

Anyway really sorry to hear this girl screwed you over. There are a lot of users out there, hope you find someone nicer in the future
 

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Now the challenge is to not hold your ex's actions against all women. Good luck with that, as no one seems to be capable of it.
 

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What really disturbs me is that all this took place after you found this community! How does that happen? How did you not see this coming? I wonder how common that is - where guys here plug themselves back into the matrix. "It'll be different with THIS one." Yeah, right.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Now the challenge is to not hold your ex's actions against all women. Good luck with that, as no one seems to be capable of it.

so true....
 

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Interceptor said:
Just think, all that could have been avoided if you had done one, simple, little thing....





...used a condom.
But, but, it feels so good without a condom!!!:crazy:
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
But, but, it feels so good without a condom!!!:crazy:

I'm sure he's really 'enjoying' it now.
If you're not ready to become a daddy, use a condom always.
 

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SharpGame said:
What really disturbs me is that all this took place after you found this community! How does that happen? How did you not see this coming? I wonder how common that is - where guys here plug themselves back into the matrix. "It'll be different with THIS one." Yeah, right.
That's what stood out to me! Seriously? You got so caught up in "love" that you just forgot everything huh?
 

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KontrollerX said:
LMFAO, quite right, quite right. :crackup: :D

this thread should be stickied for newbies. :D
 

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I'm really sorry, man...that sounds like an awful experience. Don't blame yourself too much, though...it sounds like there wasn't any way to salvage this one.

Past behavior is probably the single most important indicator of the future when dealing with women. It's not that people can't change, it's that most people won't. Apologies and promises are meaningless if they don't actually spur any change, even when they are sincere. It's really easy to rationalize away past behavior in light of what may or may not be a sincere apology.

I'm going to suggest something:

Now that this is behind you, you should have no trouble identifying red flags. Once you DO find a woman that makes the grade (for real this time), do yourself a favor and STAY AWAY FROM THIS SITE.

You've learned your lessons. You know the philosophy. Once you're in the best relationship of your life, this site can only hurt you.

It's impossible to read these forums on a regular basis and not outwardly exhibit a bit of distrust in women. There are just TOO MANY stories like yours in these pages.

A good, honest woman will NEVER see the "realties" that we see here--because they simply aren't HER reality. She may have the same urges and motivators as the low quality women we speak of, but if she treats you like a king, there's no reason to ever clue her on the stuff we talk about here, whether directly or indirectly. If she snoops on your hard drive, she shouldn't find this stuff.

Do some healing. Spin plates. Enjoy being single. Just don't go blaming yourself or believing that every girl is like this one.
 

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yeah....the usual suspects ticked off the same DSM IV criteria I did, too.

Too bad. They are great actors.
 
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