General advice for a red pill male who has a lot going for him

[balance33]

Hi all- I'm a lurker on sosuave and a frequent reader of rationalmale. I am familiar with the fundamentals (have read the Bible, etc). I thought I'd give you some background on myself and ask for your advice.

I am a 26 year old male virgin. I have a lot of friends. I am pretty well off for someone my age (I have no debt and a 6 figure salary, my parents are well off if it matters). I am above average looking: 5'11", athletic build (165lbs, have been lifting regularly for 9 months and have bulked up from 140lbs), dress very well (yet masculine). Appear "confident": I am funny, I speak confidently, smile/give eye contact, etc.

So, I think I have these things going for me. On the flip side, I am a virgin and have never dated someone for more than 2 months. Despite being a virgin, I've done a lot just short of having sex (have gotten head, handjobs, heavily made out, etc). Most of this was in high school some ~7 years ago and I was probably intoxicated for most of it. Since then I have been very academic/work focused.

The only "relationship" I've had in recent memory was someone (HB8ish) who I worked with and who was intensely attracted to me (and I to her) while I was able to maintain my confident alpha facade until 8 weeks passed without me kissing her and she lost interest. It was 8 weeks strictly of me "gaming" her with ****y-funny, etc but very little physical intimacy (yet she was showing REALLY high interest). What's crazy is that when she quit showing interest abruptly at week 8, I had no idea why. Regretfully, I even tried switching to a beta for a few days to try to "win her back." Ugh. I talked to someone on this forum and they confirmed that it was my failure to escalate. Anyway, I went strict NC and although I was tempted early on, I stuck with that shiit and I'm better for it. I never got friendzoned, which I'm proud of, and I don't return her messages. Hopefully she hates me rather than thinking she friendzoned me. These are consolation prizes though, I still fuc'ked this up.

Excuses I've made for myself: I work 70+ hours a week, and they are very irregular. Plus it is a stressful job so I never really feel that I am "off." When I finally have time off, I want to rest and relax. Since this 8 week relationship, I haven't asked anyone else out (has been about 6 months). The truth is that I've read about all the "steps" online, but really don't feel like I know what I'm doing in a relationship or how to escalate physically. There are a lot of girls who I can tell are attracted to me, but they are HB 5s-6s, and I have so little time, I don't want to spend it gaming some HB5 when I'd never date one. The HB8+s that I like rarely show interest. The simple truth is that I will not lower my standards to someone I'm not attracted to.

So what it comes down to is this: I've always have been the guy that had everything figured out. And for the most part, this is true. Where it's not true is with women. I have little experience, little time, but a great desire to find an attractive woman both for s'ex and for a relationship (but who am I kidding: probably more for the s'ex lol). On the upside, many of my friends have taken the blue pill, and although they are more experienced than me, they are in a monogamous relationship with unattractive girls who nag at them to take the garbage out. Further on the upside is that my schedule is a little better for the next year so I will have some time to date.

Please offer any tips, encouragement, suggestions, etc. I'd like to get this s'hit figured out.

Thanks

 

[( . )( . )]

Personally I don't trust a man who's well into his manhood and never banged a woman. I have them at a step below men who won't drink a beer and above those dudes who jack off after lighting forest fires.

Ok now that's out of the way, just bang a couple of working girls or fatty slump busters FFS. No need to turn this into a drama. Pump a few loads off to get out of the rut and establish a more down to earth grounding in regards to chicks not being the mythical unicorns that your mind probably has them at now.

After that I'd come back here and spend some solid WEEKS digesting the Bible then commence that embarrasing at first but ultimately awesome time of crash and burn rejections.

70+ hours a week? Fvck that noise. I'm glad it's you and not me. 70 hours for what? So you can be taxed up the ass for our "courageous" single mothers and every other parasite.

 

[balance33]

Overall its just a matter of time. However, you should come to terms with the fact that as a virgin you are not an "8" and therefore do not deserve 8's. Men's SMV is as dependent on game as anything. Bang some 6-7's. I don't know what those numbers mean to you but they are at least bangable to me. As a virgin that is your only standard. Yes, I know from experience. Although I did "hold out" like you did and eventually lost mine to a HB8.5 psycho that basically raped me, I could have gotten over the hurdle a lot earlier had I been realistic. I know you dont want to waste time on them but if you're as great as you describe yourself you should be fine. Also I would try to get up to at least 170-175 given your height but you're probably out of the danger zone at 165.

Thanks for the encouragement. 6-7s are definitely "bangable." My only reservation is that I'm worried about getting the girl pregnant or getting an STD. For these reasons, I'd probably have to date the girl for a little bit so I trust her, which is too bad, but I suppose it is necessary for me rather than having a ONS.

I didn't mean to describe myself as "so great," there are definitely people who make more/work less/look better/are more confident than me, but I wanted to make sure that whoever read my thing understood that these weren't what is holding me back from getting laid.

I also agree that I should keep trying to gain weight. 170s or 180s would be great.

 

[LMFAO]

Ok now that's out of the way, just bang a couple of working girls or fatty slump busters FFS. No need to turn this into a drama. Pump a few loads off to get out of the rut and establish a more down to earth grounding in regards to chicks not being the mythical unicorns that your mind probably has them at now.

After that I'd come back here and spend some solid WEEKS digesting the Bible then commence that embarrasing at first but ultimately awesome time of crash and burn rejections.

70+ hours a week? Fvck that noise. I'm glad it's you and not me. 70 hours for what? So you can be taxed up the ass for our "courageous" single mothers and every other parasite.

Solid advice. Your first call of action is to f*** an escort.

 

[balance33]

Although herpes is the gift that keeps on giving, I'm not gonna be fcuking any escort, thanks.

 

[LMFAO]

Chance is you have herpes already anyway.

 

[balance33]

A virgin with herpes? Maybe you are talking about cold sores caused by HSV-1, which is not the same as genital herpes caused by HSV-2>HSV-1.

Didn't mean for this discussion to get off topic. Would love any more advice that you guys have.

 

[donking]

HSV1 and HSV2 both can appear on both the oral and genital cavities, although in general, HSV1 has a predilection for the oral and HSV2 for the genital.

might as well contribute something from my medical education.

 

[donking]

Most scary common noncurable STDs:

1. HIV obviously
2. HPV, men can get this in mouth and throat, increasing head and neck cancers
3. HSV, not a huge deal healthwise, but can f up your sex life

 

[balance33]

Hate to change the subject, but would appreciate any more thoughts on the original post.

 

[HalfAddict]

WHAT IN THE SEVEN HELLS IS THIS ****.

You don't deserve to bone an 8... because you are a pvssy biatch, who is scared to touch a girlllllllllllll.

At this point you shouldn't care if she's nine hundred pounds and sweating gravy. This kid is sittin here talkin..."It was 8 weeks strictly of me "gaming" her with ****y-funny, etc"

Dude... not sure if trolling. If you are not trolling you need to grab that little sack between your legs you know.... that thing you are not using. AND START USING IT. If you really had a chick being your "girlfriend" for eight weeks and you didn't touch her? I call bull**** here. More like we went on one date then I fantasized about her touching my penis and becoming my wife for 8 weeks.

Take some goddamn responsibility and take some ACTION. Wishing hoping and praying doesn't do ****.

But hey dude whatever I'm sure Megan Fox should be knocking on your door any minute now ready to **** you until your **** falls off. But who the **** am I kidding....Megan Fox has a big forehead and toe thumbs, 2/10 would not bang...back to being an average do nothing jackoff wondering why I'm a 26 year old virgin.


You a bible thumper?

 

[balance33]

Yea, you won't hear any argument from me about how my love/sex life is non-existent (if that's what you were hoping for). Like you said, the girl I mentioned was never my "girlfriend" we just dated for about 8 weeks (which is obviously nothing to brag about). I essentially agree with the rest of your post.

PS: not a bible thumper

 

[SecondHalf]

OP, at your age, you may want to consider getting a steady GF to learn the basics on, then figure out what you want to do.

I mean, at 26, first sign of gina, you'll likely barely get the head wet. That might be a little embarrassing if you're playing the Alpha male type.

Good luck!

SH

 

[Korrupt]

Advice? Don't call yourself a "red pill male."

 

[HalfAddict]

Not at all balance... I know you know your love live is non-existant. The question is do you really want a love life?

I want to spur you to action, and I think to do that is to first knock you down a peg. Fact of the matter is, everyone's definition of an HB varies. For example ginger chicks give me a boner. You may think they are ugly soulless freckled weirdos. Whatever. Just as most women have impossibly high standards I get the feeling you do too. That total babe is a total babe because she put effort into being a total babe...and she..... is a little a GIRL, with mass insecurities who contrary to popular belief does not **** roses. So scary I know right.

Try to look past looks a little and maybe find someone who is ****ing rad that you can bone.

SO whats the problem? Is she going to deny your advances? Who cares if she does. It's your movie dude, how do you want it to end?

 

[balance33]

An update on me: the last 4 nights that I've went out, I've gotten k-closes from a different woman (all Hb 7-8) that I've met each night. On the 4th, I tried to get her to come back to my condo but it didn't work out. This is the first time I've tried to get a girl back to my place, and learned how to better do this in the future. I can already tell that the k-close is like clockwork now, not a problem at all. This feels like an improvement for me.

Anyway, I'm still a 26 year old virgin, but am making an effort/progress.

 

[twentee]

if you are so far ahead of the game, why do you have to ask about such things here, ferchrissakes? Man, all it takes is be around a lot of women, and make decent money, there will be more than one take notice.

 

[Smell The Glove]

while I was able to maintain my confident alpha facade until 8 weeks passed without me kissing her and she lost interest.

I don't think your confident alpha facade is very convincing when you date a girl for 8 weeks without kissing her.

9/10 Well played troll thread, sir.

 

[balance33]

if you are so far ahead of the game, why do you have to ask about such things here, ferchrissakes? Man, all it takes is be around a lot of women, and make decent money, there will be more than one take notice.

I hope this is true. I am f'ucking sick of being a virgin. This next year I will have a reasonable work schedule and no excuse for not bringing girls home. I'll keep this thread updated. I posted one update already (above), but it looks like people are still responding to the original post.

 

[donking]

no alpha is virgin