Gene Simmons interview w/ Terry Gross

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Eddie417 said:
...The interviewer was a dud, Simmons took control and turned what could have been a 20 minute discussion about makeup remover into something worth listening to.
Here's an exerp of Terry's bio from the NPR website:
Gross isn't afraid to ask tough questions, but she sets an atmosphere in which her guests volunteer the answers rather than surrender them. What often puts those guests at ease is Gross' understanding of their work. "Anyone who agrees to be interviewed must decide where to draw the line between what is public and what is private. But the line can shift, depending on who is asking the questions," observes Gross. "What puts someone on guard isn't necessarily the fear of being 'found out.' It sometimes is just the fear of being misunderstood."
Tough questions? How does he remove his makeup???!!! Understanding of her guest's work? Gene wears fishnets???!!! Guest need to decide where to draw the line between what's public and what's private? Gene was more than gracious about what he was willing to talk about. Terry said "What puts someone on guard isn't necessarily the fear of being 'found out.' It sometimes is just the fear of being misunderstood." I don't think Gene was a bit worried about that although it does make me wonder about Terry's ability to interview anyone with any substance. I guess that's why I was surprised to hear this interview on NPR, it was actually good.
 

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Good job owning potato Eddie.

Though admittedly its not hard.

He/she/it makes it too easy.
 

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Eddie417 said:
And ABBA....ABBA? I'm going to the store for some beer, I'll grab you some tampons while I'm there.
Wait and see, the proposed Broadway musical of KISS will fall far short of Mamma Mia.
 

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KontrollerX said:
Good job owning potato Eddie.

Though admittedly its not hard.

He/she/it makes it too easy.
Wait a minute. Now that we are in 08, I have to say it.

Didn't people stop "owning" people in high school? Or middle school?
 

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Where you all fail is that you are seeing it from the male perspective. Women don’t see men the same as men do. Until you learn to look into the mind of women you’ll forever be frustrated trying to get women in ways that are impressive only to men.
And I'm even more convinced that you are a female. What you fail to see is most of us aren't trying to get woman in a way that is impresive to men. On the contrary, most of what we do is counter-intuitive to the way men think and were taught to deal with women, but it's what actually works. You're just spouting mainstream ideas that have failed many a man for so long.
 

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On the contrary, most of what we do is counter-intuitive to the way men think and were taught to deal with women,
Actually, you are doing what every other guy is doing – putting on an act to get a woman to like you, at least for a little while, with the primary concern of getting laid.



I don’t know what you were taught but I was raised to have manners and to treat others with respect.

My dad used to hit on women all the time and usually rather cheesily, not much different from what many modern PUA’s do. All those routines for waitresses that I read on this and other sites, I heard them all before I was even 5. It used to embarrass me. He used to regularly tell me that if I played my cards right that I could get just about any woman I wanted.

My mom, my aunts, my older sister’s friends and later, the girls at school all tended to interact with me in a flirty kind of way. My mom always told me to stand up straight, to be strong, and honest. She told me that when it wasn’t working out with one girl to dump her and find another - because there would always be girls who would like me.

My dad likes to tell this story about how when I was a kid he took me out to a restaurant and that when the waitress came to our table he told her that he didn’t tip but that I did, if she smiled. After we left he asked me how much I tipped her and I told him that I didn’t because she didn’t smile.

What really happened was that he took me on a road trip with him. I was 13. We stopped at this café and when the waitress came to our table he started in with his usual bit. I was watching the waitress, watching how she was reacting to him. In the process our eyes met and from then on we kept making strong eye contact and she smiled at me in a way that made me feel good. After we ate our meal I ordered desert, a sundae. When she brought it to me it was a super duper sundae with all the trimmings and when she sat it down before me, the way that she looked at me told me that she had made it special because she thought that I was special. When we about to leave I left her a couple of dollars for a tip, the first time I had ever tipped anyone.

Aware of the smiling between the previous waitress and me, the next day, when we stopped in at a restaurant he told the waitress that he didn’t tip but that I did, if she smiled. I was never able to establish a connection with that waitress and I never left her a tip. When my dad asked, I just told him that she never smiled.

Since then I have been acutely aware that to look into a woman’s eyes and smile, to establish a connection, will get her going. I make little differentiation between levels of beauty or desirability. Yet, in the end, I only slip off with those with whom I feel a strong emotional connection.

I once read something that a woman had written online. She said that she never quite saw what it was about George Clooney that made so many women like him. Then she met him. She said that he looked deep into her eyes and smiled, and then she knew.

Most men don’t know how to look at a woman, how to read her body language.
 

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Dude, your Dad messed you up.
 

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potato said:
Once I was hanging out with a bunch of guys who were the typical construction worker types. When decent looking woman would come by they would start saying things like, “nice ass” “great tits” and all manner of crude comments about the ways they’d like to have sex with her. I never think that way and at most I might think “well, she looks interesting”.
This is a "post hoc" logical fallacy. You're assuming the men were rejected because they were "rudely" cat calling when in fact it is more likely they were being rejected because the women perceived these men as being blue collar guys with not a lot of money or power.

It's probable that there are few things more detestable to a woman than a guy with no power or money that thinks he's still deserving of her anyway.

Some women came along and at the end of the day they weren’t sitting with those guys who hooted and hollered, who told the women that they were beautiful, and that they wanted to be with them. No, at the end of the day they were sitting with the guy who just gave them a gentle smile.
Girls love to have "girlfriends". I don't think this has anything to do with sexual relationships though.

This may surprise some of you but most women are very much attracted to men who are gentlemen - those guys who stand tall, have manners, and speak respectably to women.
Again, women love to have plenty of girlfriends (girlfriends, stated figuratively).
 

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potato said:
Actually, you are doing what every other guy is doing – putting on an act to get a woman to like you, at least for a little while, with the primary concern of getting laid.

I don’t know what you were taught but I was raised to have manners and to treat others with respect.

My dad used to hit on women all the time and usually rather cheesily, not much different from what many modern PUA’s do. All those routines for waitresses that I read on this and other sites, I heard them all before I was even 5. It used to embarrass me. He used to regularly tell me that if I played my cards right that I could get just about any woman I wanted.

My mom, my aunts, my older sister’s friends and later, the girls at school all tended to interact with me in a flirty kind of way. My mom always told me to stand up straight, to be strong, and honest. She told me that when it wasn’t working out with one girl to dump her and find another - because there would always be girls who would like me.

My dad likes to tell this story about how when I was a kid he took me out to a restaurant and that when the waitress came to our table he told her that he didn’t tip but that I did, if she smiled. After we left he asked me how much I tipped her and I told him that I didn’t because she didn’t smile.

What really happened was that he took me on a road trip with him. I was 13. We stopped at this café and when the waitress came to our table he started in with his usual bit. I was watching the waitress, watching how she was reacting to him. In the process our eyes met and from then on we kept making strong eye contact and she smiled at me in a way that made me feel good. After we ate our meal I ordered desert, a sundae. When she brought it to me it was a super duper sundae with all the trimmings and when she sat it down before me, the way that she looked at me told me that she had made it special because she thought that I was special. When we about to leave I left her a couple of dollars for a tip, the first time I had ever tipped anyone.

Aware of the smiling between the previous waitress and me, the next day, when we stopped in at a restaurant he told the waitress that he didn’t tip but that I did, if she smiled. I was never able to establish a connection with that waitress and I never left her a tip. When my dad asked, I just told him that she never smiled.

Since then I have been acutely aware that to look into a woman’s eyes and smile, to establish a connection, will get her going. I make little differentiation between levels of beauty or desirability. Yet, in the end, I only slip off with those with whom I feel a strong emotional connection.

I once read something that a woman had written online. She said that she never quite saw what it was about George Clooney that made so many women like him. Then she met him. She said that he looked deep into her eyes and smiled, and then she knew.

Most men don’t know how to look at a woman, how to read her body language.
So, you recognized cheezy pick-up lines before you were 5, your mom and your aunts flirted with you as a child (stay down lunch, stay down), as a 13 year-old kid you did the tipping and were working a little eye-connection with the waitress and you'd pass on a grim super-model but screw (sorry "slip off with") a goat if you could establish a strong emotional connection with it.

This is all made-up. Every last bit of it. There's so much crap in this post I need a roll of toilet paper to wipe my monitor off. This is the post of someone who thinks this is what a "sensitive" guy sounds like and is inventing a back-story that is supposed to be interesting but just comes across as creepy.

Can we vote on where this goes? Can you invent a bit where you catch the mom and aunt's going at it and explain how it gave you an appreciation of the beauty of women? Seriously man/woman/teenaage boy/girl, if you're going to make crap up swing for the fences!

You're second life is boring. :crackup:
 

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potato said:
Actually, you are doing what every other guy is doing – putting on an act to get a woman to like you, at least for a little while, with the primary concern of getting laid.



I don’t know what you were taught but I was raised to have manners and to treat others with respect.

My dad used to hit on women all the time and usually rather cheesily, not much different from what many modern PUA’s do. All those routines for waitresses that I read on this and other sites, I heard them all before I was even 5. It used to embarrass me. He used to regularly tell me that if I played my cards right that I could get just about any woman I wanted.

My mom, my aunts, my older sister’s friends and later, the girls at school all tended to interact with me in a flirty kind of way. My mom always told me to stand up straight, to be strong, and honest. She told me that when it wasn’t working out with one girl to dump her and find another - because there would always be girls who would like me.

My dad likes to tell this story about how when I was a kid he took me out to a restaurant and that when the waitress came to our table he told her that he didn’t tip but that I did, if she smiled. After we left he asked me how much I tipped her and I told him that I didn’t because she didn’t smile.

What really happened was that he took me on a road trip with him. I was 13. We stopped at this café and when the waitress came to our table he started in with his usual bit. I was watching the waitress, watching how she was reacting to him. In the process our eyes met and from then on we kept making strong eye contact and she smiled at me in a way that made me feel good. After we ate our meal I ordered desert, a sundae. When she brought it to me it was a super duper sundae with all the trimmings and when she sat it down before me, the way that she looked at me told me that she had made it special because she thought that I was special. When we about to leave I left her a couple of dollars for a tip, the first time I had ever tipped anyone.

Aware of the smiling between the previous waitress and me, the next day, when we stopped in at a restaurant he told the waitress that he didn’t tip but that I did, if she smiled. I was never able to establish a connection with that waitress and I never left her a tip. When my dad asked, I just told him that she never smiled.

Since then I have been acutely aware that to look into a woman’s eyes and smile, to establish a connection, will get her going. I make little differentiation between levels of beauty or desirability. Yet, in the end, I only slip off with those with whom I feel a strong emotional connection.

I once read something that a woman had written online. She said that she never quite saw what it was about George Clooney that made so many women like him. Then she met him. She said that he looked deep into her eyes and smiled, and then she knew.

Most men don’t know how to look at a woman, how to read her body language.
More evidence that you are a woman. I'm starting to lean to the belief that you are a lesbian.
 

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Eddie417 said:
Can we vote on where this goes? Can you invent a bit where you catch the mom and aunt's going at it and explain how it gave you an appreciation of the beauty of women?
Such a perverse way of looking at things. I guess this explains why you see Gene Simmons’ attitude towards and the way that he talks to and acts around women as anything other than pathetic.

This is all made-up. Every last bit of it.
Just because something is beyond the realm of possibilities of your meager existence doesn’t make it untrue

Just as it is well known that girls who grow up with a healthy, innocently flirtatious relationship with their father tend to grow into women with healthy, fulfilling relationships with men, boys who grow up with healthy innocently flirtatious relationships with their mothers tend to grow up into men with healthy, fulfilling relationships with women.

My mom taught me to be a respectable man and to treat others with respect; she also spoke to me as an intelligent, respectable woman speaks to an intelligent respectable man. As was her nature, she often spoke to me in a playful, flirtatious way. Likewise my aunts also often spoke to me with a smile upon their faces and a wink in their eye.

I’m sure, from the example of my mom, growing up I interacted with all women in a innocently flirtatious way, teachers, store clerks, waitresses, my friends’ moms, my sister’s friends, and girls at school. I even learned about sex, not by conquest over girls but as play with the girl that lived next door and her friends. Whereas my interactions with boys and men tended to be on the order of competition and power plays, battles of will, my interactions with girls and women have always been playful, enjoyable.

At my favorite hangout, which has a capacity of about two hundred and is always packed to standing room only with a line outside on Friday and Saturday nights, provides an environment where I regularly see social interactions. Regularly there are guys with attitudes such as the one Gene Simmons portrays and there are always Mystery wanna-be PUA types. Neither type seems to ever be very successful with the women.

No guy there is more popular than I am. I act exactly as I’ve stated in other posts, in an innocently, playful, flirty way without ever actually coming onto the women. It’s always my happiness, and my manliness that draws them in. If you are man enough you don’t have to hit on women, or game them, they’ll come to you.

Every day I prove that nice guys do come out on top.
 

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That and you're so good looking people treat you like a celebrity. Don't forget that part.
 

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Potato wrote:
My mom taught me to be a respectable man and to treat others with respect
But he previously wrote:
Yes I come here to laugh at you
and this:

Plus, as I keep reading some of the more “enlightened” posts to my girlfriend she either laughs or asks me why I keep talking to a bunch of losers
.

Oh, please do tell me how much you enjoy our company and how much you value us too please?


And I don't know how to take this, about your...um...mom?:

she often spoke to me in a playful, flirtatious way

And your modesty knows ...er....no bounds?

No guy there is more popular than I am
LOL.
:crackup:
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
I apologize. But you left yourself open to some ribbing.
In an innocent, and playfully flirtatious way, of course.
You big manly hunk, you.
 

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exposed.
 

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potato said:
Every day I prove that nice guys do come out on top.
Potato, no man would ever say this, much less take the time to type it.

You have good posts, but, they could be better if you would be more truthful.
 

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Potato sounds like Gerard. Anyone IQQI likes is a suspect .
 
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