G/F having dinner with HS Friend

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My g/f (8 mos. total, 7 intimate; has keys to my place) is having dinner tomorrow night (alone) with a male friend from high school (they met again at her reunion).

He is new in town and called her twice to say they should hang out this weekend. She said she was busy (with me) and recommended the dinner instead.

I don't want to recomment on her past negative history of cheating. Obviously it irritates me or I wouldn't be posting.

Is this against the rules of anyone here?
 

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Has she cheated before? And most importantly has she done anything REMOTLY like that towards you?
 
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Don't expect loyalty from a ho - remember you are just the next in line. Dont be disappointed if and when it does happen - just expect it - it is out of your hands anyway.

She could sex this guy and you wont even know it - it doesn't have to be this week it could 5 weeks from now - like i said "you are just the next in line" - just don't get emotional.
 

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look, i dont see how the situation is, by any means, good for you. she has cheated before. does she need to have dinner with this dude? i think not... she just saw him at the reunion. he's probably looking to get some action of some sort... the question is: is she willing to give it? i wouldnt be comfortable in your shoes...
 

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Dudes - here's a tip if you want to figure a girl is a possible cheater/has cheated. (TEST QUESTION) Ask if she has ever done a one night stand... say you've always wondered how it's like.. If she casually replies "Oh it's nothing" or "I've done a few in the past" - Keep her for.. "fun" but she's not loyalty material.

Back to the topic: Dunno - I'd never place too much trust on girls like this. I'd keep my options open for girls like this... cheat in the past.. cheat in the future.
 

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That's the dumbest advice I've heard, sorry... If a girl has done a one night stand it will not make her less trustable.
 

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dog..look up my thread "Whats really to stop her from cheating?"

I knew the answers all along, but still got whipped up into shape with the help of these posters.

The only important questions is....Do you Trust her?

If you don't-dump her. Ask yourself why you don't..try to discern if the threat is "real" or just some deluded jealous driven fabrication of your imagination.

If you do-All you can really do is wish her a fun filled evening and do your own thing.

Trust and perspective are everything.
 

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Your question is pretty clear, so I'll answer.

Yes, it is against some of our rules. When you're affiliated with a cheater, there's nothing to keep a cheater from cheating.
 

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What kind of BS is this...!?

If you are in an exclusive relationship she has no business going on a dinner date with a male "friend".

When are you people going to understand this? This is complete disrespect towards you as a man. She has some big nuts to even ask...

What is this world coming to?

Maybe she would like it if you went to dinner with an old high school girlfriend?

I will bet you my life savings this guy wants to bone her.

(Of course my life savings are mostly in the hands of my ex-wife)

Dietzcoi
 

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PS get your Damn keys back as soon as possible, unless you want them boning in your bed while you are away!!!

Dietzcoi
 

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She has cheated before. If she was anyone else (including my ex, who would never, ever cheat) I wouldnt even think about it.

She brought up that I hang around with another girl occasionally (the other girl is someone I fooled around with a while back but have intentionally stayed away from because it is mildly inappropriate while I have a relationship).

1) How do I handle it (assuming I don't want to ditch her yet)

2) Why didn't she invite me along as well

3) Big Pappy: Is it against the rules because she has a bad history or because a g/f shouldn't be doing this at all (if its the cheating thing, then that motivates me to just break up in general)

4) What if I have cheated in the distant past (and she can call me on it)
 
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I would also note that she let the conversation with him get this far without telling him she has a b/f, so now it will be an issue.

I also note that this means she gave out her cell number to a guy without telling him she had a b/f.

You know how girls like to avoid doing anything that makes people dislike them? Rather than say no now (and look rude or whatever) they will allow a situation to develop that is even worse.
 

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dietzcoi has is correct.

It should not even be entering her mind to have dinner with this guy alone. The decent thing to do would have been to arrange a simple meet up for a couple of drinks in a bar and invited you along too.

But going out alone on a 'date' is just taking the piss.

Trouble is, theres nothing you can really do about it now, if you kick up a fuss she'll probably just want to meet up with him even more.

Try suggesting that you meet up with her/them for a few drinks after the dinner and/or pick her up - see what her reaction is.

If shes not into that idea then you might need to worry.
 

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I like the advice. There is a tendency for people here to give worst case scenarios though.

I don't in any way think she will cheat currently or ever with this guy.

But the fact of this meeting raises in my mind that she will be comfortable and think its okay to do this kind of thing in the future with people she would cheat with.

Since she has that kind of history (and for that matter, she and I used to hang out like that while she was breaking up with the last b/f) I assume it is reasonably likely.
 

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Let me be more clear.

There are no "rules"! You can NOT expect to have a happy, fulfilling relationship with anyone playing by rules. Why not? Because, the two of you are not playing by the same rules. There are always some inferred laws that apply to both parties.

For example: in every relationship I've ever had, although it was never stated in this manner, it was understood that neither one of us were allowed to put any genitalia in or adjacent to our bodies.

However, this summer, I had a non-exclusive arrangement with a bisexual girl (might have benn an experimenting hetero - who can really say? Not sure she knew herself) who thought this was fine, as long as the other party was there to either participate or watch.


You asked if it was against any rule. I told you it was.

Here's what you have:

You have a girl that you care about.
She wants to break bread with an old "friend".
She has a history of infidelity.

Understand this: A woman's needs can not be summed up specifically, as each woman's needs are different. In most younger girls, even they don't know what they want. So, there's no possible way for us to determine if all of her needs are being fulfilled.

What makes a girl cheat? Nothing "makes" her cheat. She makes a conscious choice to start a relationship with someone else, be it physical and short term or romantic and long term or what have you. Most younger girls that cheat do this becuase it was done to them and they want pay back. Others just can't believe how unbelievably obtuse most men are. They practically spill it out, how bored they are with the curent situation. These are attention wh*res and drama queens. They do it for the excitement. Let's face it, it feels good physically.

Some men on the site might say if they KNEW she wasn't going to cheat that it is still not a good idea to let her go.
Each of us are different.

Suppose you tell her that your concerns. You are going to sound like a control freak or a chump, either way she hears it.

One of the DJ's here that has been screwed over a time or two, would shout out the word NEXT, just to save himself the pain. If you like her, it's going to hurt anyway.

What are you going to do, when you tell her not to go and she says that it's just dinner and you're not her father and she can go if she damn well pleases?

If I were in your shoes, I'd call up one of my old girl friends from high school and have a double date.
 

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You might what to try this: Tell her if she goes with this guy to dinner alone, you percieve it as disrespect to you.


If your girl truly loves you, she wouldn't want to do anything that makes you uncomfortable. The fact that she mentioned "you see a girl as a friend" tells me she's looking for a way to justify her actions.


If she does go with this guy, get your keys back, tell her it's over and try to move on. If she really does care about you, she'll make an effort to make it up to you. If she doesn't, then she was a ***** and you did the right thing.
 

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It makes no sense that she should not be able to have dinner with an old friend without it being a sign of cheating or unfaithfulness.... It's COMMON in my book... Fvck if the boys that are together with some of my girlfriends where this paranoid they wouldn't have GFs or something other bad...
 

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Why don't you just ask to go along? Just say, oh, well I was planning on spending some time with you, mind if I come along? If she has a problem with you coming along, then you might have something to worry about.

Tell her to look at it from your point of view. You going out to dinner with another girl. Its disrespectful. In the begining of my current relationship, I went through sort of the same type of thing. She wanted the upperhand in the relationship and would say things like, "well if you aren't going to come to lunch with me, im going to have Wes (her ex-boyfriend who still wanted her)". She didn't understand the big deal, but I had to explain it to her that it is the principle of it, and if thats how she wants to act then she can just get back with him. Needless to say, she never invited wes to lunch.
 

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For me it is the principal too, since she has something of a checkered past.

If I break it into too many details I think I will be overthinking it. My gut is telling me it's been handled poorly.

He is not an old HS friend. He is a guy who remembers her from HS who got her number at their reunion and since he just moved into this town and doesn't know anyone he asked her to "hang with him" this weekend. She essentially counter-offered with no but lets do a dinner.

So basically, here is a guy who asked for her number (got it) asked her out (got a counter-offer which to all of us is better than No) and does not know she has a b/f before he has dinner with her tonight.
 
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Why are you even debating this? There is no question that what she is doing is 100% wrong if you are in a committed relationship. Now maybe shes not happy with you, and thats another story-she should just break up with you and THEN date if thats what she feels. But to do this while seeing you is morally wrong.

Shes accepted an offer to a get together, hasnt told him shes seeing you-which in my mind seals the deal as far as this is more than a "friendly" get-together, and now you say they werent really even friends to begin with? Do you need to be hit over the head with a 2x4? This girl is showing you blantant disrepect, and obviously you have some deeper issues going on between you both. Did I take it correctly that you have cheated on her before? If so then paybacks a beeootch. I think you both should have a sit down and a heart to heart, and hash out what is REALLY going on here. And if things cant be worked out and then she still wants to get together with this guy, then you both should go your seperate ways.
 
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