From pessimist in the US to optimist in the Philippines

[bigjohnson]

... guys who have game don't need to prey on the poor.

First, please defend the statement "prey on the poor". It makes no sense. Predation in what sense please? Second, who do "guys who have game" prey on and what makes this predation better?

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Talking about low concepts of trying to get laid, or what I would consider to be intellectual pornography, or gutter sexuality. The question is how low will you go to get laid.

There was a report of a guy saving a girl from being drowned in a Tsunami that hit India just to rape her afterwards. There are reports of guys in Toronto, Canada targeting Muslim girls for rape since they are less likely to complain on authorities. Then you have economic rape, where guys help girls get food so they can survive, so they can do them. With police being bribed off, the whole society virtually legalised economic rape from predators going overseas to get an easy lay. Just think - how many girls were abducted and forced to work at brothels where they are left to die with AIDS without medical attention once they are all used up? What you paid to do one of them - you support a market that convinces women of a better life, abducts them, uses them where they have to have sex with like fifty guys a day, and then leaves them to die afterwards once they are all used up if they are not shot before by the owner? Is that also a form of rape too?

Options. If these same girls are in first world countries and had options, then you would see if you would have the same chances with them up here.

Point - is what Ricaro is saying - if you have no game or looks or no reason for a girl to be attracted to you then you become one of them predators. I disagree though. I think anyone can be a sexual predator. I think that anyone who goes to a third world country for sex sort of has that tainted stigma of being a sex tourist paying to do abducted girls stolen from rice fields from poor workers to satisfy a short-term ego trip.

 

[bigjohnson]

Options. If these same girls are in first world countries and had options

They have options, some choose to date the rich white guys with the blue passport. Some choose other options - hence proving the other options not only exist but are completely viable. No one is prey and no one is predator in this scenario except in the imagination of some underachieving minds.

If anything the DJ mentality ("I am a Lion! I don't eat scraps" says Dark Butt-Nuggetry) encourages predatory behavior.

 

[Dark Chivalry]

When I sleep with a girl, she may not have had plans to sleep with me, but when she is dropping her panties she is doing so because she wants to sex me and I play it so that she does not regret it in the morning. Making a girl horny and making her trust you by showing the best parts of you and not telling the whole truth is being the DJ.

Actually lying, cheating, gaming somewhat weaker chicks(Rebound, very young adult, insecure.) is kind of the dark side of DJ, it's still definitely game, legal and not something I would hold against a guy.

Then there is the stuff that is not game but also not rape; going to hookers who have other options of making a living, picking up chicks who sleep with anyone, putting your tool in a melon or antnest. None of these things are game or anything to be proud of because anyone can do it. You're just scratching an itch, no need to share it with the world.

Finally there is raping girls, which includes doing it with known sexslaves or girls who must either starve or hor or unconcious and sleeping chicks. Basically when you do a girl who has no choice, you are a rapist of sorts.

If you have decent game and take care of your body, it is easy to pull sane, adult, willing women by making them wet and horny, longing for your c0ck.


A healthy, honorable man has limits to how much of a dyck he is willing to be. In another thread there was a man who got hit with the coffeepot by his woman. Now there is a woman who has no limits to how much of a b!tch she is willing to be. Sure, the man may have acted like a superchump and made the choice to stay with her, but regardless of that she is still trash. If a buddy of mine would come to me saying he slept with a sexslave, I'd stop hanging with him cause I don't hang with trash.

 

[ricorico]

First, please defend the statement "prey on the poor". It makes no sense. Predation in what sense please? Second, who do "guys who have game" prey on and what makes this predation better?

**Women who are good looking and have a lot going for them= Women who will attract Alpha males and DON't have to travel to poor countries. Can travel to countries which are prosperous, and attract Alpha males there too.

**Ugly assed fat,old women who have nothing going for them =Women who go to poor countries to prey on poor young guys because that's the only way they'll get laid!

** Decent looking guys with something going for them= Guys who can get women who are educated, nice ,attractive, and can financially take care of themselves.can go to Europe or anywhere and get high caliber chicks.

Ugly assed old, or obese guys who can't get laid=guys who go to poor countries to prey on poor young girls because that's the only place they'll ever get some.



Now if anyone can find evidence good-looking guys with game are the ones goint to poor countries and not just Europe give it here. I can find tons upon tons of evidence where retarded looking men, obese,old,disgusting,socially inept guys are the majority of the ones doing it. there are tons of pics all over the internet!!!

Ironically, one of the links to White women having sex with poor guys from foreign countries gave an interesting insight on what goes on in these poor people's heads. They said the poor guys IGNORED the pretty young tourist that go there(because they are not desperate and will not easily buy gifts and give money)

But target the older,fatter women are are easy to fool and desperate for sex. I doubt the poor women in poor countries do any different. They don't preffer the old or fat. They look for the easiest targets.

Perhaps I was hasty in saying the richer ones prey on the poorer people. I guess they do deserve each other! The only thing is to keep a clear mind and not to beleive this is for real as these old white women, and old white men tend to do. Take it for what it is! Sex and false affection in exchange for monsy,gifts or the almighty chance to get a green card!

 

[bigjohnson]

I believe you are just fundamentally inept with the English language. You keep using prey and predator to define relationships where no predation is happening. Consentual behavior is by definition not predation.

Maybe you have a bad case of fat wallet envy.

 

[ricorico]

I believe you are just fundamentally inept with the English language. You keep using prey and predator to define relationships where no predation is happening. Consentual behavior is by definition not predation.

Maybe you have a bad case of fat wallet envy.

No envy of fat wallet BJ,

I am gearing up to make myself a very good future. Check my IP address. I live in Beverly Hills one of the richest real estate in the world. I see "fake" relationships here everytime I walk out the door. Why would I envy that? Those same women who marry the old or ugly guys are having sex with guys they find in clubs,pool boys,their personal trainers ect to satisfy their real desires. I would rather a woman want me,than my wallet. That's why I work on myself physically,mentally and career wise.

I don't hang in poor countries with women who are desperate.If that were the case, I could be lazy and not do a damn thing with myself as they aren't exactly expecting the cream of the crop. Just like poor foreign guys who sleep with fatso,Fugg AW aren't expecting much either.Those women don't want to work on themselves,so they take the easy way out and blame American men for not respecting them, or being too fat,lazy ect. There are a million and one excuses given by second rate folks, why they are in poor countries trying to get someone. Most will never admit the true reason. They are desperate!!!

This is a website written by a Fillipina girl who lives in the Fillipines. If this is the sort of relationship you want, you sure don't aim too high.a small sample of her thoughts.


So here's the truth about Filipina girls: We're not impressed by where you come from or how much money that you make. If we look excited about your money or your status, it's because we are thinking about how quickly we can get you to break your bank account on our petty desires or our battalion of cousins' college education. Especially for you (much) older or no-so-attractive-guys, if we agreed to go out on a date with you for God knows what reason, watch us every minute because the minute you drop your eyes we'll be checking out the cute butt on that local guy who has been eyeing us in the corner. I can't tell you how many girls I know who date men just to get free food at the hip new restaurant.



http://www.yellohgirls.com/archives/May2005/05_02_2005.html

 

[bigjohnson]

At least you made a post without "fat ugly wrinkled" or "predators" in it. Progress. I don't think one Filipina slut can actually speak for the entire population, but I exhort you to stay in Beverly Hills the rest of your life.

Can't be too careful.

 

[ricorico]

At least you made a post without "fat ugly wrinkled" or "predators" in it. Progress. I don't think one Filipina slut can actually speak for the entire population, but I exhort you to stay in Beverly Hills the rest of your life.

Can't be too careful.

Why would BH be the only place to go. I have already been to many countries as I have said before,but also plan to go to Austria,Prague,Capetown South Africa,Spain,Argentina,Italy,Germany ect in my lifetime. I have friends who have family homes in France Cannes,Greece. My neighbor has family in Monaco and perhaps one day I will go. The world is big my friend. There are a lot of beautiful places to go.

As for this Filipina slut. Check out her website! I think she is one who actually very honest while many will not. I also pointed post made by young Russian women posters who also said they are not impressed with the low caliber of men that search for women in their country. But noone wants to beleive that either. they think those are just sluts in the minority.

Is'nt that the same sort of denial the old,BBW's say when they claim those foreign guys are REALLY into them?? They'll never beleive those guys are not really attracted to them. Their money and passport is the sole reason those young attractive foreign men will sleep with a woman old enough to be their mothers or weigh twice as much as they do. Come on! If men can actually perform with those beast, that is proof enough to me that poverty makes you do desperate things. No matter how poor American guys are in this country they would'nt do what girls do cause they can't even fake it with the beast. But who knows,these guys are able to perform because they need the money much more than any American men would ever know as our version of poverty is not nearly as bad a theirs! Come on, their poverty is so bad in the Phillipines and Thailand many sell their kids into prostitution or allow them to work as bargirls. Sad!

Ever wonder why Fillippina women in the U.S. are not easily impressed by fat guys or old guys? Suprisingly,people think their culture makes them more accepting of looks and age, but it's clearly the lack of money that does that. Reason why many American men will travel, because soon as those foreign babes hit U.S. ground they want the whole enchilada. I'd rather have a real relationship than be seen as an ATM from a girl and her family. But that's just me. Other guys may not mind at all!!

 

[bigjohnson]

There's no such thing as a "real" relationship outside Cosmo magazine. It's always about maintaining the leadership role and keeping her IL high through whatever means works. In other news, "I read it on the Internet in a random blog/post/whatever" isn't the best way to decide what the world is really like, but you go on with it if it's working for you.

 

[englishman]

Why would BH be the only place to go. I have already been to many countries as I have said before,but also plan to go to Austria,Prague,Capetown South Africa,Spain,Argentina,Italy,Germany ect in my lifetime. I have friends who have family homes in France Cannes,Greece. My neighbor has family in Monaco and perhaps one day I will go. The world is big my friend. There are a lot of beautiful places to go.

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Ricorico, you make some good points but I think you sound like an azz, so you live in Beverly Hills, we know youve said it over and over, sound like a snob to me, like your proly an ok guy but youve led a sheltered life up there in them there 'Hills' and now your heads a bit to far up your azz.
Maybe in order to be a more rounded guy it would be good if life somehow threw you a couple of curve balls to bring you down a peg or two.

Anyway Im out of this thread, someinteresting stuff, but all the ewww poor people, ewww wrinkly old people and foreigners who only want a green card and a better life. (like thats a terrible thing to want?) is getting me down it really is like listening to a conversation my daughter and her girl friends would have in school recess when there all hoped up on coke and junk food..yah totaly :cheer:

 

[bigjohnson]

I was try ing to place it, now I remember - this is the same convo I have with women when this subject comes up. Interesting.

 

[ricorico]

I was try ing to place it, now I remember - this is the same convo I have with women when this subject comes up. Interesting.

Englishman,

If I come off as a snob it's because I have been accused of not travelling and everyone acts like because they've been out of the country they are a world traveller. I have done more than my fair share of travelling and have probably been exposed to a lot more than the guys who accuse.. I brought up where I live because someone accused me of being jealous of him having a fat wallet. Which as as far from the truth as he can get. But he does'nt get accused of bragging . Interesting!

BJ,

If you were talking with some fat American heffers and they did not agree with men going to poor countries,it's because they have'nt heard of "The big bamboo" where fat old white women can now get laid by big black studs. Beleive me as soon as they hear about it,they'll change their tune.. They'll back you up 110% and they too would wonder why young people have the ewwww factor when it comes to older or fatter folks. These heffers swear they are so sexy and something is wrong with American men who don't think so and POOR foreign men are the only ones who can appreciate their true cough ...cough...beauty.But like the guy in the article said when asked if he was really acttracted to the old women he was having sex with "I close my eyes and think of Beyonce". Sorry, but most young people like me men, and women think having sex with much older folks not very enticing.

. Heck, the'res even porn out there with old women having sex with young guys and I guess it has a market. But all it would make me do is get sick. Again that's me. It seems there is a whole lot of hypocricy here and seems some of you old guys don't even want to have sex with old ladies and vice-versa. Yet you think me immature when I say it has the ick factor? How is that different from what you think?

Why are'nt any of you sleeping with geriatrics women? Can you answer that? I will for you. Because even the old aren't attracted to each other.Old men want young women,old ladies want young studs. So why do you pounce on me when young people think the same as you old folks who seem to go through a hell of a lot of trouble to avoid each other sexually do???? take a look in the mirror as you have the eww factor too,when it comes to old heffers.It's normal for young people to be grossed out when they think about older people.Even you older guys are grossed out thinking about an old lady naked. The old are not attractive!!!

I will ask this question. Do you think the young studs in those poor countries are really attracted to these old heffers? Or do you think money is the sole motivation? Do you think these women who fool themselves into believing it's true love are delusional? If so what makes the poor women any different? In fact I would think they are much more desperate then the men, because of even less financial oppurtunity.

As I said before, if you both go into it using each other and understanding what the relationship is about,great! That's not my cup of tea, Call me a snob. I don't care!

 

[gherald]

i dunno but hes kinda fvgly...

there are many hotter asians out there and the one he's with in the collage are fvgly girls...

but if your happy with that...

 

[bigjohnson]

If you were talking with some fat American heffers ....

Sounds like someone is channeling Wyldfart.

 

[ricorico]

Why is everyone ignoring my questions of what they think about the big fat heffers and the "big bamboo". Do you really beleive the guys seriously preffer fat old women? I wonder what motivates these guys ? Probably the exact same thing that motivates poor gals. Money and the hopes of a green card.

Ironically the heffers all have the same excuse. ALL American guys are out of shape,bad in bed and are intimidated by them. Even the woman who interviwed the fatsos for her article was making fun of the fact they ALL thought men were intimidated by them. WHY???? The stuff delusional people tell themselves is comical.Then they try to find things wrong with folks who think something does not smell right. You don't travel, you are jealous of my fat wallet, you must be a woman,ect.

Every guy I know think the heffers are desperate and they all know the men chasing those heffers are desperate too . Desperate for money.We know these guys are not sincere. But some guys can't admit to themselves they are in the same boat as the heffers.Get used for the same reasons. Just opposite sex. It seems the homely folks have found a great way to avoid each other. Go to poor countries.

I advice every guy here to send a link of Women traveling to poor countries in search of "the big bamboo" to every ugly,obese,old woman you know. The more ugly women who know about this phenomenon,the quicker the stampede to the airport.

 

[bigjohnson]

I think it's good for everyone - gets them out of the country and stimulates foreign economies. Can we stop talking about your black penis fantasies now? Please? It really is starting to sound like I'm talking to a 35 year old woman. Same opinions, world view, and now same interests.

 

[ricorico]

I think it's good for everyone - gets them out of the country and stimulates foreign economies. Can we stop talking about your black penis fantasies now? Please? It really is starting to sound like I'm talking to a 35 year old woman. Same opinions, world view, and now same interests.

The reason I am talking about HEFFERS going to foreign countries for men and sex is because it mirrors what you are talking about. Going to foreign countries for women and sex. Perhaps you can clearly see now that is what people with little options have to do. I figured using the women as an analogy would make that blatently clear. But you don't want to see this and ignore it because it hits too close to home. We MEN are here to better ourselves and our futures and become Alpha males.

Stimulating foreign economy? I plan to do that myself. I and a friend have just invested in a very popular franchise which should allow me to be able to invest in 2 countries ai think have a great future. Prague(which my Czech friend will help) and South Africa,Durbanville or Capetown or Port Elizabeth. Things are rough now, but I do think in the future it will be a great place and plan on buying prime property and beachfront.

You see, I have a plan for the future. This is what interest me. Most of my friends are geared towards their future too.

Oh, I did have 1 friend who was geared towards cheap P***Y cause he never got any. At 19 he went to Mexico and fell in love with some poor girl. Brought her back ,got her knocked up. They divorced after 2 years,she took the kid and he went back to Mexico for chick#2. Desperation at it's worst. I haven't spoken to him for a couple of years now as I know he is going nowhere in life with dead end jobs . But he's chasing cheap P***Y. I would hope never to encourage any guy on this board who is'nt under 50 to live like that. Guys like Winston sure have a good future going for them. Yeah, right!

Why not encourage men to become men and be financially stable. Be the kind of man who can get top shelp women anywhere. The advice people like you and Winston want to give is to men who are essenially losers and don't aim high in their lives.

As for me saying I sound like a 35 year old woman,well I would say I sound like a mid 20's guy who sees the desperation in people who would have to do this and denounce it for younger men since the future is ours. There will be a time when I am a geriatric with no options, then I may change my mind. But for now there are MILLIONS of Asian,Eastern European,Latin women in the U.S. Why the hell do I have to leave the country to find them? I can date them here!Please answer that question. Seem you seem to avoid it I will. It's desperation that makes men travel to POOR countries to meet women!

And I will keep bringing up the women who do this too as they are the parrellel to the men who do this. But you will never admit it! There are millions of African,Latin men ect men here. Why the hell does a woman have to leave this country to find them? Desperation! The ones already here will have nothing to do with them as they already are on U.S. ground.

We can either concentrate on what's important Or like Winston go around the world looking for P***Y and asking daddy or forum members to send you 5 bucks once in awhile. Or can teach English and waste your time making pittance and come back to the U.S. with nothing while your friends are accomplishing something. I would rather be the one ho accomplishes something while I'm young and investing!



Why don't you guys go to message boards with 60+ year old lonely men living on a pension and give them this advice.

What are you guys doing on a DJ forum anyway?

 

[bigjohnson]

.... for now there are MILLIONS of Asian,Eastern European,Latin women in the U.S. Why the hell do I have to leave the country to find them?

If the only reason you can imagine to visit a foreign country is to meet women I can't help you.

 

[englishman]

ricorico, better shut up while the goings good, the cracks in your personality are getting wider with every post.
Face it you just want a big young healthy black penis! its true isn't it you want a dirt poor Rastitute to take you up the back door? While Dr Freud and your wrinkly mum take notes and score your performance from 1 to 10.