FR: This is what's wrong with men these days

[reyalp]

i say don't try to rationalize it at all, and move on.

if she's not willing to play, i break out my favorite word..."NEXT!"

don't sweat it.
the fact that you're even worried about what you did wrong means that you're trying to rationalize it. in a one-off scenario, this is fruitless. now, if it happens 3-4 times with 3-4 diff strippers, start analyzing the situation, looking for what's going wrong.

if you're going to do a hail mary and try to get her again, i say do the fake ATM receipt bit, put your number on the back, give it to her with a $20 bill next time you go there. if she's going to play, she'll play after that. if not, move on.

no need wasting your time when there's plenty of other fine trim out there


somebody said $500 was loads of money. i thought that was funny.


(btw if i offended you in any way with this post, or you disagree with me, just say "i was offended by xxxxx", or "i disagree" and leave it at that. i'm not the kind to sit and waste my time arguing, i use "NEXT!" in forums too)

 

[KarmaSutra]

Re: Re: FR: This is what's wrong with men these days

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Re: FR: This is what's wrong with men these days

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Originally posted by backbreaker
so I decided to go to the strip club last night. I had about 1k to blow
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I have to agree with T!ts' quotes of other guys' quotes on this one.

 

[Oxide]

I will give you one very useful piece of advice, and you will not even have to give me $1000 (although you could )


Every single girl, no matter if she is a stripper, hooker, monstorous slut, drug addict, ect... feels she should be treated like she is special. You know she is a dumb hoe. She knows she is a dumb hoe. You try to joke with that, you will get canned. Tested over and over and over and over again by me. Why do you think most girls call me an *******?

Secondly. You should treat every girl like she lets you treat her. She wants to be treated like sh1t? You fvck her and kick her out. She wants respect? Give her some. Just be reasonable with this.




P.S. You could have flown to MN and went out with me with that money. I guess some other time.

 

[backbreaker]

I'm not even going to respond to this post, becuase no one understands what's going or has bothered to read what I said and where I am coming from.

 

[backbreaker]

I will say that the hooker thing is one thing I have always told myself I would try at least once. I did it, and it's not my type of thing, so I won't do ti again, but I can always say I tried it.

I also told myself one day I will jump out of a plane, and that's something I am going to try before it's all said and done.

 

[organizedconfusion]

...so you feel jipped because you spent the loot and you feel as if
she wasn't doing her job by not giving you the attention you paid for?
She WAS doing her job- a good job too... at hustlin'.
It sounds like you just threw money at her, if it was me i would've
teased her and made her REALLY work for it.

Take out a bunch of hundreds, flash it in front of her,pull
it away, give her $5.Tease her a bit and just enjoy her
comany- i don't care if her dog died when she was 15 or
that her dad kicked her ass or how she became a stripper.
All that time talking, you could've been laying down some
fat game on her a$$.

Shoot..after the first lap dance, if she was acting snotty-
i'd just forget about her.
Lighten up , she's a stripper for gods sake- you really should'nt
take things soo personaly.

 

[backbreaker]

I like where you are coming from.. something to keep in mind.. I like that

It's not that I took it personally, I don't u nderstand how a woman, a s tripper, can leave that much money on the table.

But like I said.. I will keep that in mind...

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Re: Re: FR: This is what's wrong with men these days

Originally posted by DJDamage
You were ready to blow a $1000, just so some naked trushy girl can rub her tits and her ass in your face is not a sound investment and it ain't worth it (but hey its your money so I ain't knocking on you).

Your friend was right. A woman that works in a strip joint does not want to be treated like a hor, she still accepts to be treated with respect.

Excuse me, my friend. But a woman who works in a strip club IS A W.H.O.R.E.
and should be treated as such.

I.e. nothing more than a sperm receptacle.

Stop treating hors like ladies - you'll always get burned in the end.

Either that or catch a disease.

 

[backbreaker]

well, not to that extent. I ahve respect for everyone, but if she thinks for one second i believe she is little miss innocent that happens to be showing me her breasts for money, she is sadly mistaken.

Also, it's her job to be a stripper. You deal with your own emotional baggage on your own damn time, that's my point.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Strippers are headcases.

Sure, treat them with respect. But make sure it's an act. Don't take them seriously.

Strippers have SERIOUS self esteem issues.

They cannot deal with normal everyday men. They generally only deal with loser types and thugs.

 

[Holland]

I'm not even going to respond to this post, becuase no one understands what's going or has bothered to read what I said and where I am coming from.

So you prefer to be ignorant. Be my guest, no one will care.

 

[BuckwildNYC]

Re: Re: This is all constructive criticism dude:

Originally posted by backbreaker
when did I say I told her how rich I am, or how much money I have?

As a matter of fact, I speceficly said she asked absolutly nothing about me, and i didn't tell her.

There are only 2 people who know how much money I have.. I like it that way.

Like the guy said, If you went to say... a massage person, and you paid them up front, and they didn't give you a massage, you would be quite pissed.

same thing. I paid her to do her job, not because I liked her, and she didn't do it. Not only did she not do it, I am looked at as being an ******* becuase I demand her to do her job. That's what gets me.

Did I ever say I told her I was ****ing a stripper? lol, I didn't even tell her my real name. The only thing she bothered to ask me was where I got my DKNY jacket I had on from.

Sorry to say but your thought process is a little backwards. Forget about DJing and treating her like a lady and all that stuff. Bottom line is you threw 300 dollars at her while she was dancing. She already has your money now, why would she waste any more time with you if she already has your money. She doesn't know you have another 700 in your pocket. She's thinking you are a broke ass right now and that she needs to get some money from someone else.

You said you like the straightupness (nice word lol) of strip clubs but you weren't being straightup. You want her to just sit next to you all night? They get paid to do lap dances and dance on stage...... not sit next to you and drink.

You said you had her giving you 3 lap dances in a row and YOU wanted more but she said she was tired? That's a big red flag right there. You must have been doing something to make her miserable. Even for money, most girls don't want to spend much time with someone who makes them uncomfortable or not turned on. It wouldn't have been tiring for her if she was feeling you and you guys were making out and getting her panties all wet. You'd be surprised..... most strippers aren't THAT DESPERATE for cash. I know alot, and many don;t make as much money as they could cause they hate dealing with certain types of guys............. you know.............. the ones who come in, flash a little money and think that they own them!!!!!!!

 

[backbreaker]

now that I have had a day and a half to reflect on what happened.. I know women. She wasn't repolsed by me. She might have felt nervous around me for one reason or another, but I know repolsed or degraded when I see it, and she was neither.

I think she probably just thought I waso ut of money.

you are right about me contridicting myself, I should have been more upfront, but what I didn't want to happen is me pay her all that money and get 1 hour of time. It's like if you go to the Car dealership, and tell the guy you have exactly 15k, no matter what you get, for some reason, it's going to cost exactly every dime of 15k.. where if he doesn't know exactly what he has, he has to try his best to earn your money.

But yeah, I'm not going to go so far to say she was feeling me as in sexually, but she was by no means insulted by me, we had a pretty good time when she was there.

I see the mistake I made.. I probably would have handled that better if I wasn't tipsy, but you live and learn.

 

[DJDamage]

Re: Re: Re: FR: This is what's wrong with men these days

Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
Excuse me, my friend. But a woman who works in a strip club IS A W.H.O.R.E.
and should be treated as such.

I.e. nothing more than a sperm receptacle.

Stop treating hors like ladies - you'll always get burned in the end.

Either that or catch a disease.

I don't date hors in the first place so therefore I treat the girls I am with like a lady and with respect that they deserve (rather the respect that they earn)

I don't think you understood my post. You know she is a hor and she knows she is a hor but you don't go up to a stripper and act like a pimp and say " ok b1tch stratle your ass on my d1ck and here is $100 bill and stuff it in your ass" why?? because I am not her pimp, I am a customer and this is a business. In business you will get a better service with your money and your mannerism. You don't treat a plumper that comes to fix your toilet like sh1t because he deals with sh1t right??!!

All I am saying is that if you want to get a lap dance from a stripper or if you want to get a ONS from a girl you just met don't treat her as the slut she is. She still has her Anti-slut defence's up despite her being an actual slut, just treat her with some respect and you will get what you want out of her alot faster then treating her like the wh0re that she is.

 

[backbreaker]

DJDamage does have a point.. a girl will suck your balls and lick your toes on the first date if she doesn't think she is being a slut because of it

 

[IS|Reinhart]

Ok i didn't read all of the replies but that what i would have done if i were u:

As soon as u noticed she is not giving u correct attension you should have asked another girl to give u a lap dance than another and make that b1tch jelous! 1000 is enough! to make stripp girls fighting for u

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Re: Re: Re: Re: FR: This is what's wrong with men these days

Originally posted by DJDamage
I don't date hors in the first place so therefore I treat the girls I am with like a lady and with respect that they deserve (rather the respect that they earn)

I don't think you understood my post. You know she is a hor and she knows she is a hor but you don't go up to a stripper and act like a pimp and say " ok b1tch stratle your ass on my d1ck and here is $100 bill and stuff it in your ass" why?? because I am not her pimp, I am a customer and this is a business. In business you will get a better service with your money and your mannerism. You don't treat a plumper that comes to fix your toilet like sh1t because he deals with sh1t right??!!

All I am saying is that if you want to get a lap dance from a stripper or if you want to get a ONS from a girl you just met don't treat her as the slut she is. She still has her Anti-slut defence's up despite her being an actual slut, just treat her with some respect and you will get what you want out of her alot faster then treating her like the wh0re that she is.

True dat, true dat.

 

[Nightwing]

Originally posted by backbreaker
so I decided to go to the strip club last night. I had about 1k to blow, all in my pocket for some lucky lady.

So I see a girl, good looking, can actually dance, so I give her a modest tip while she was on stage, 15 dollars, just to let her know I was interested.

She comes, gets off stage and talks to me, and asks me if I want a 20 dollar lapdance, of course I say yes.

After the dance, I tell her, in so many words, that as long as she sits and talks to me for the night, she will be more than fine.

I didn't go to the club with the intentions on ****ing, I just wanted to have some fun and spend a little money.

I guess she didn't believe me, because as soon as she left, she went to the VIP section (Which down here is nothing special)

AFter going to the VIP section for 30 mintues and not getting one tip,s he goes on stage.

So this time while she was on stage, I made her dance for me, and I gave her about 120 dollars while she was on stage, 6 twenties.

Now, you would think, this would be enough to grab someones attention that hey, this guy has some money that he wants to spend on YOU (didn't tip anyone else the entire night, no one else worth tipping)

So she comes back, and sits down for like 20 mintues, I order us both drinks. She seems cool, seemed to be enjoying herself for the most part. I mean, I'm not an ungly guy by any means, I just like the strait forwardness of strip clubs.. I know what you want and visa versa, that's refreshing to me. I am a cool guy, we talked about her growing up and how she got kicked out the house when she was 15, blah blah blah, kept checking her phone and sending texts, etc while talking to me, which It hought was disrepsectful to say the least. Not once did she ask me anything about me. NOt what I did for a living, not why I am here, nada.

So she leaves, again after like 20 mintues. So I find her, and decide I am going to take some inniative, and drag her back there and make her give me a lapdance, I told her i shouldn't have to do her job for her (in a joking manner of course). I mean.. I don't stink, I was dressed nice, and I had over 700 in my pocket to blow on HER if she would just act right and act like she wanted it

I mean, I wasn't going to tell he how much money was in my pocket because it's your job to EARN it, not me to give it away, that's my feeling.. that takes the fun out of it.

So I get 3 lapdances, 20 each, and she leaves because she says she is tired.

So we go back out, and she is talking to this other guy.. and I'm cool, I eman.. i can't knock the girls hustle at all, it's her job.

So I outbidded him.

She got on stage, and he was tipping her 10's, so I though 300, 20 at a time dollars on stage and told her " you will learn to stay where the money is"

YOu would think that THIS wo uld get this girls attention?

Nope.

I couldn't even get her to come and say thank you afterwards. Wait, she did, but the second after that she went to go sit with the other guy, who from what I saw, didn't give her a dime besides the 15 dollars on stage.

I mean, am i really missing something here? I thought the point was to make as much money as possible. I know if I was a stripper, my rationale is, any guy that throws over 400 dollars on stage to see you dance in PUBLIC is probably willing to pay a hell of alot more to see you do it privatly.

Like I said, I wasn't trying to have sex or do anything illegal, just wanted her company for the night and was willing to come out of my pocket to pay for it.

Also, we are in Arkansas. On an EXCELLENT night,t he best stripper MIGHT make 400 dollars and that's a MIGHT if she is extremely good and lucky. Very often, even on saturdays, good/decent looking girls walk out with less than 50 dollars.

I actually felt insulted.. like my money was not only not good enough, I wasn't good enough. I mean, it sucks to pay someone 500 dollars for what amounts to you sitting wtih me for 25 mintues and 3 lap dances, when I WANTEDT to pay y ou m ore



Now, this is the funny part. I was telling this guy I know today at the mall my experience.. He's an AFC and sells makeup to alot of strippers.

So he said " you made her feel like a *****" and "you shoudln't have said what you said to her about coming to the money"

I looked at him like he had lost his damn mind.

First of all, IT'S A STRIP CLUB. I can't begin to state how much I don't give 2 cents about her feelings. lol, I am giong to pay YOU money to hear about YOUR problems, how much sense does that make? I pay you money to feel important or whatever, and to pay for your time.

That's the equivlant of paying a hooker ot eat her *****.. isn't the point for me to feel happy at the end of the day?

Secondly... I mean.. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. I mean in all honestly, she told me about all of the guys that she has dated, how all her guy friends have crushes on her (and she's cute, really cute, but has nothing on my ex's and can't hold a torrch to my old oneitis).. and you work at a strip club... I am not calling you a ***** babe.. but if you were to call yourself one.. I wouldn't necessarly raise an arguement.

So, I told the guy.. look. I'aid her for a service I didn't get.. and I did something wrong?

I can tell you exactly what happened. She saw me, a young black guy and the other guy, a 35ish white guy who was dressed semi nice.. wrinkled blue jeans, knockoff blazer, etc, and assumed he had more money than me.

Even though I had already spent about 400ish on her, she assumed he had more money or that I was out of money.



either that or she just doesn't like black guys, which would be stupid because money is green and doesn't care what color you are.

$1000 bucks at a fvckin strip club?? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!!!! She treated you like the trick that you are!!!!

 

[Microphone Fiend]

u made her feel like she was the seller and you were buying...she probably wasnt super excited over the money cuz it isnt the first time. She probably been in relationships where the guys are bigger suckers. Its crazy how she acted like she wasnt impressed so you spent more to impress her...isnt that a DJ skill, lol.

Also i think it is a case of cognitive dissonance

Congrats, she now has money to go the club or buy some drug paraphanelia. Next time you want your money to make a difference in someone's life, go to a charity and donate :crackup:

 

[Tha Realnezz]

And this is the guy who wants to "school" me and help me with my game?A fawking John.

Please.