AlwaysExcel
Senior Don Juan
As I left HBMischevious this last weekend (SEE my LR: Drowning Out One-itis), she was all affectionate and hinted that I should call her when I got home. I didn’t call but wondered about calling after sex. I read some thread on Sosuave.net with a bunch of KJ advice that got me thinking in her frame for a minute. Like “awww, poor girl is probably wondering why I haven’t called and is feeling sad.” But then I got busy and so didn’t call her till Tuesday night.
She sounded matter of fact as usual and we chatted for a bit. I tried to get some rapport but it didn’t get too deep. I asked her to shoot pool with me on Wednesday but she counter offered with Thursday because she worked late Wednesday. I accepted as I was free Thursday as well. I no longer stress the whole “acting busy” thing. I’m busy enough and have an exciting life. No need to fake it.
I regretted asking her to go on a date with me rather than just coming over to visit. I wanted to make her into a fvck buddy not necessarily someone I take on dates. So that was the first frame control issue.
I had told her that we’d go out around 8:30 and I’d call her a little before that to come over to my house. I called her at 8:30 to tell her I was meeting her at her house since my bro had the flu. She was like, “we’re going to X-Bar.” I was surprised so my teasing wasn’t that funny. I just laughed and said, “Oh, so you’re taking control huh?” She said that she thought I was going to call way earlier and so had called her friend. Her friend wanted to come out too and they just decided on a bar to meet since they didn’t know where I was planning to go. Obviously a bunch of guilt trip BS. Now, in a normal date situation, I would’ve been like “have fun with your friend.” However, I felt that this would be a good way to get out of the date frame and back into a more casual frame. We’d hang out with the friend and then I’d take her home and fvck her. The change of plans should’ve tipped me off that things would go awry. I did make HB promise to sing a song to entertain me since it was karaoke night.
We get to the bar and start drinking. I find out that there are no pool tables and HB doesn’t like pool that much. I bust on her a bit but it was kinda ineffective. Then HB refuses to sing karaoke and tells me she promised to sing…at the table. I’m like whatever and talk and joke around with the girls for a bit. Sometimes I’d also sit there all aloof, watching the room with a bored expression on my face. HB even asked if I was bored but wouldn’t do anything when I told her to entertain me.
Then HB talked to a couple dudes and gave one of her old co-workers her number. I don’t give a shyt since I don’t care if she fvcks other people. But I felt that it was a bit of a shyt test and the frame was deteriorating even more. So I left the table and approached a couple girls myself. When I came back, HB asked me if I knew them. I just smiled and said, “ I do now!” I also took out my cell and checked my messages. She asked whether I had anyone important to call. I just laughed and said “wouldn’t you like to know!”
I did kiss HB a bit at the table. Maybe that was a mistake since affection should be a reward but sitting there like an asexual girlfriend or non-dominant AFC is not good either. She sucked the hell out of my tongue.
Eventually, midnight rolled around and I told HB that it was time to go. Her friend had ordered another pitcher though and HB didn’t want to go. Then she mentioned that her bedtime is 1AM. I said, “that’s why we should go now!” HB informed me that I “wasn’t getting any” tonight since it was a school night and she had to get up to jog at 5 in morning. (Riiiight, so that’s why you want to stay and drink another pitcher with your friend)
I then froze her out hard. She started looking at me, acting worried, asking me if I was mad, and even began licking my ear. I told her that I was disappointed and displeased since she wasn’t giving me the TLC I wanted. She tried to guilt trip me about not calling hours before the date, about acting shady about the situation, about how she can only hook up on the weekends, about getting up early, I just cut her off and told her that these were reasons why we should leave now. I guilt tripped her back about not being able to trust her (the pool and karaoke) and told her that I visit my out of town friends on the weekends so the only time I can meet up is during the week. She asked if she could call me next week. I told her that she’d have to sweet talk me because I was displeased. After 10 minutes of this, I said “drink up because I’m leaving in 5 minutes.” She said she was staying with her friend. So I put on my coat. She blew me a kiss and I just said “buh-bye” and walked off.
She sounded matter of fact as usual and we chatted for a bit. I tried to get some rapport but it didn’t get too deep. I asked her to shoot pool with me on Wednesday but she counter offered with Thursday because she worked late Wednesday. I accepted as I was free Thursday as well. I no longer stress the whole “acting busy” thing. I’m busy enough and have an exciting life. No need to fake it.
I regretted asking her to go on a date with me rather than just coming over to visit. I wanted to make her into a fvck buddy not necessarily someone I take on dates. So that was the first frame control issue.
I had told her that we’d go out around 8:30 and I’d call her a little before that to come over to my house. I called her at 8:30 to tell her I was meeting her at her house since my bro had the flu. She was like, “we’re going to X-Bar.” I was surprised so my teasing wasn’t that funny. I just laughed and said, “Oh, so you’re taking control huh?” She said that she thought I was going to call way earlier and so had called her friend. Her friend wanted to come out too and they just decided on a bar to meet since they didn’t know where I was planning to go. Obviously a bunch of guilt trip BS. Now, in a normal date situation, I would’ve been like “have fun with your friend.” However, I felt that this would be a good way to get out of the date frame and back into a more casual frame. We’d hang out with the friend and then I’d take her home and fvck her. The change of plans should’ve tipped me off that things would go awry. I did make HB promise to sing a song to entertain me since it was karaoke night.
We get to the bar and start drinking. I find out that there are no pool tables and HB doesn’t like pool that much. I bust on her a bit but it was kinda ineffective. Then HB refuses to sing karaoke and tells me she promised to sing…at the table. I’m like whatever and talk and joke around with the girls for a bit. Sometimes I’d also sit there all aloof, watching the room with a bored expression on my face. HB even asked if I was bored but wouldn’t do anything when I told her to entertain me.
Then HB talked to a couple dudes and gave one of her old co-workers her number. I don’t give a shyt since I don’t care if she fvcks other people. But I felt that it was a bit of a shyt test and the frame was deteriorating even more. So I left the table and approached a couple girls myself. When I came back, HB asked me if I knew them. I just smiled and said, “ I do now!” I also took out my cell and checked my messages. She asked whether I had anyone important to call. I just laughed and said “wouldn’t you like to know!”
I did kiss HB a bit at the table. Maybe that was a mistake since affection should be a reward but sitting there like an asexual girlfriend or non-dominant AFC is not good either. She sucked the hell out of my tongue.
Eventually, midnight rolled around and I told HB that it was time to go. Her friend had ordered another pitcher though and HB didn’t want to go. Then she mentioned that her bedtime is 1AM. I said, “that’s why we should go now!” HB informed me that I “wasn’t getting any” tonight since it was a school night and she had to get up to jog at 5 in morning. (Riiiight, so that’s why you want to stay and drink another pitcher with your friend)
I then froze her out hard. She started looking at me, acting worried, asking me if I was mad, and even began licking my ear. I told her that I was disappointed and displeased since she wasn’t giving me the TLC I wanted. She tried to guilt trip me about not calling hours before the date, about acting shady about the situation, about how she can only hook up on the weekends, about getting up early, I just cut her off and told her that these were reasons why we should leave now. I guilt tripped her back about not being able to trust her (the pool and karaoke) and told her that I visit my out of town friends on the weekends so the only time I can meet up is during the week. She asked if she could call me next week. I told her that she’d have to sweet talk me because I was displeased. After 10 minutes of this, I said “drink up because I’m leaving in 5 minutes.” She said she was staying with her friend. So I put on my coat. She blew me a kiss and I just said “buh-bye” and walked off.
I don’t play a very hardcore validation game during the seduction though....
