FR: Post Lay Problems

becker

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What is LMR, ASD, and mASF? I think the difficulty is that you have to take action and not talk about stuff, because then it's awkward. It's almost like you have to just make a move and see how she responds rather than make an explicit deal with her, which I've tried before, but have been pretty unsuccessful with.
 

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Yeah, planning sex, being logical with agreements etc. doesn't work as well as action. That's why I was a little leery of straight up tell HBMischevious that I want sex every time I see her. It's gotta "just happen." That's how chicks see it. So I addressed why it didn't just happen: she prevented it from happening by playing games to see how much she could manipulate me.

mASF is moderated Alt Seduction Fast or www.fastseduction.com Lots of great info and some cool people.

LMR is Last Minute Resistance.
ASD is Anti-Slut Defence.

ASD applies to situations where she doesn't want to get sexual or kiss in public but will do so in private. That's partly why isolatation is important. ASD also applies to her excuse of not wanting sex or not doing certain sexual things because she doesn't want to be perceived as a slut. A slut is a woman who has no sexual power. Woman are sexually powerful if they can attract a lot of suitors but choose ONLY the best ones to fertilize her limited eggs. The Slut is also looked down on by society. The woman hate her because she's having more sex or wilder sex than them. And the men will fvck her but won't consider her for a long term relationship. People in general hate her because some girls are slutty for acceptance rather than sex and that's really lame. Her value is low and she gets no respect. I find the whole thing hypocritcal because we live in a modern society. I don't judge girls like that because then I have to judge myself by the same standards. But I understand that bucking the evolutionary wiring is pretty hard.

LMR is all about the resistance when you've got the girl extracted back to whatever isolated location you want to fvck her at and she resists in some way, physical and/or verbal. LMR stems from the girl's morals, her fear that she's giving away her sexual power (is acting too easy) and you'll leave her, her fear that someone will find out (ASD), her social conditioning that one must date for X amount of time and get to know each other before sex etc etc.

I'm trying to work the qualifying angle so that they feel connected beforehand. I also do push pull with physical escalation and make out. Woodhaven says that some girls won't let you touch certain parts of their bodies, like their breast but are cool if you touch something else, like their pvssy. He says to just persist in turning them on in the parts of their body that they let you until they're too turned on to stop it. My experience has validated this idea.

Anyhow, do a search. There's good info out there. Best wishes on that problem. I've been frustrated by it too and am still working on it.
 
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