FR: Being random seems to work very well.

[drtk]

Yet another excelent FR

Question, did you call the girl from this thread?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=150839

or this one?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=150773

or this one?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=150718

Just curious.

I GUARANTEE HE DOESN'T RESPOND TO THIS. All he will do tonight is post another FR, argue with all his "haters" or post another thread questioning why he hasn't gotten laid.

I really don't see any hating in my post here Elstud, so why not answer the question? Did you call any of them? Heck, in one of the threads you said you told the girl you would be hanging out last friday. Did that happen??

Cut Elstud some slack, you're not counting the fact that

They were all interested.

Also, he eventually post a lay report.

Love these FRs, keep them coming.

 

[ElStud]

Igetit! you're still too much into the that words mindset.

So did you set up a date?

Nah lol.

However, I called other girls on my phone and I've already got a date planned with 2 girls tommorow and a date planned with 2 girls for Wednesday.

This is why having options is good, a few girls flake, then it's not a problem.

 

[Flabbergasped?]

Wow, Yoshi.

I really hope you're trolling.

 

[TheBaconator]

Igetit! you're still too much into the that words mindset.


Nah lol.

However, I called other girls on my phone and I've already got a date planned with 2 girls tommorow and a date planned with 2 girls for Wednesday.

This is why having options is good, a few girls flake, then it's not a problem.

I'm sorry, but I gotta call BS on this. You've never posted one single FR of a date with a girl, heck not even one of asking any girl on one, now all of a sudden you have 4 set up in the next 2 days.

Why didn't you post these as FRs? I guarantee you wouldnt take as much heat as you did in this post, and it is definetly a step in the right direction.

 

[GaryUranga]

And still I do not care what you have to say. I can safely assume you know nothing about subcommunication or any of that. I can tell you still think words mean sh*t after I've proven countless times they don't. According to YOUR "words" mindset, I shouldn't have gotten the numbers or the interest and DEFINITELY not successfully get the kiss on both of their hands.

Besides, I'm the one who's possibly got the day 2 with both of the girls. So I still can't care. Why don't you try sh*t infield before going "Oh my god, that's wrong because it's not the way I do it!".

dude wtf is wrong with you? did you get abused as a kid? Im giving you legitimate imput and you just rant liek a little kid, why cant you just be normal and take criticism the right way, you have this lil ego in yourself thats full of sh*t,. you try to keep this fake image of yourself like some lil pimp when clearly everyone sees its not true, but thats the only way you can keep your ego up, whatever the hell youre building around yoursel youre buildign it int he wrong bases with that attitude

 

[HandyAndy]

As for HandyAndy, you have no room to be giving advice.

Oh whoops...sorry!

I forgot that I had to do the following to give you advice:

1. Get 500 numbers and call none of them

2. Make an approach calling myself "crazy guy" and called the HB "crazy girl"

3. Approach a girl, number close and never call

4. Make an approach where I pretend me and the HB are going to fight crime

5. Approach a girl, number close and never call

6. Approach a girl, dance like a monkey, pretend im a green dinosaur from a video game, and also pretend that I slay dragons

7. Approach a girl, number close and never call

8. Approach a girl, number close, kiss her on the hand, and never call

9. Post 6,524 field reports

10. Talk to every girl on campus

11. OH WAIT! I almost forgot! I also have to number close a girl and never call her!

Oh ElStud, please teach me your suave ways!

 

[ready123]

it's funny. the guy gets so much hate but he's got no approach anxiety cold approaching lone wolf, which is phenomenal. if you're hating on the guy but can't even cold approach yourself, shame on you

and yea, words don't matter if you have the proper subcommunication. what he's learning is what most natural gamers figure out eventually - that when you're in state and being authentic, you can talk about anything. RSD instructors have their students go out and make animal noises and talk about salad and other nonsense just to prove it. the endgame is all about subcommunication

ElStud's biggest problem right now is he doesn't have a proper model in his head about how to further the interactions. so he's out there doing his hit or miss thing and sometimes misses some common sense stuff. but he's gonna get it eventually - just by virtue of pushing his comfort zone

 

[Snow Plowman]

El Stud you have fans...

I've spoken to El Stud many times, I'm actually the one who told him to try saying random stuff for the purpose of self-amusement and you know what the kid actually went out and tried it as an experiment...

The thing about this kid is that he is going out...there are many who are probably hating on him, when there are MANY on this site who don't go out. I've hung out with many community guys and I'm constantly surprised at how many DON'T go out and atleast try.

This kid is alone working with what he has and he's trying. His chode story isn't even as bad as some of the guys I know now. One of my wings who is well known now started off in his college...having his whole college hate him and call him the creepy guy.

Now about your FR, I'm glad you went out and tried it because that's my style and I actually enjoyed what you spoke about because I would've NEVER thought about anything like that...and I've come up with some ridiculous things...I had a natural friend on the phone as I opened this chick and he couldn't believe the chick wanted me to come with her...because the **** I was saying was RETARDED...

Like Jon said you shouldn't even be replying to your fans...and you should be calling up your #s...but again you know we both have our differences on how you go about screening your #s...but my advice to that is to make your sets solid if your going to work your #s the way you do.

Nice to see your still out there trying sh!t...

 

[jdon23]

I thought this was a joke at first, but read further into it and now I kind of, sort of, okay-- i dont feel bad about laughing.

I commend you on your courage to do all these cold-approaches though! That takes balls. But yoshi noises? Comn man, you can be spontaneous and random but not act childish and immature.

All in all, nice effort but you can learn alot by reading tips on this board.

 

[young_gun]

I'd love to see HandyAndy and ElStud get in a fist fight. I could see ElStud getting dropped by a solid right hook and then seeing his fat legs flail around on the ground while Andy chokes him out.

 

[HandyAndy]

then seeing his fat legs flail around on the ground

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

oh god that was the best part

 

[sprint]

Haha, flake control hells yeah. Called a few numbers I got. One girl I called instantly hung up, so I deleted that in a sec. One girl remembered me, but said she couldn't talk right now. Another girl I called showed a lot of interest and definitely recognized me, that's one I'm definitely keeping. Another number was apparently not in service right now and to me, that's a fake number so I deleted that. Basically, I try to keep numbers of only girls who won't flake.

haha notice how the girls treat him. Also, he's so vague with his "interest". Seriously, she's probably just being polite.

But on this approach... look it's just stupid. He talked about crap that girls will think is weird. I'm sorry. Now some guys can pull it off. Elstud CANNOT. He's just making himself look like an idiot. It only shows because the numbers he gets are either fake or the girls don't talk to him (how does he not see this?). I know every now an then a girl will talk but that doesn't mean **** if he doesn't go out with her. So my point is that Elstud is making ZERO progress. In fact I'd say he has regressed b/c now he's acting dumber and more socially awkward than ever.

But keep it up, Elstud. I like the entertainment. (yes I know I'm a hater and ignored)

 

[Pathgen]

Im sure im going to be accused of a hater, but how do we know these field reports are real? i mean could it be that he has never called any of the numbers before and posted the outcome because they arent real? I mean his posts show active imagination, and apparently its one of his greatest pickup lines... his imagination.

I have to admit that these threads are always interesting (also entertaining). I just can't help but wonder if they arent some persons fantasy put up on a internet board for us all to give him attention...

Update: Looking forward to the lay report

 

[CosMoenTropic]

I like your confidence... thats all I can say

whether your approach works might be individual based, so Im not here to judge. I do like to be random sometimes, but I am a pretty spontaneous guy so people expect that. not so sure with strangers though, but it might work

 

[Snowman23]

He gets the number, then panics when it comes time for a date.

I wouldn't call that confidence.

 

[Aragon034]

I accept that you can # Close, i respect that you can approach any chick without anxiety. I admire that you have the balls to do something like this.

Now i have to ask, what exactly do you want from us?

No really, why do you find it necessary to reply to us even after you say we're ignored?

You've repeated stated that these FR are for your own personal reasons.

Then why share them?

as an former psych student, the only reasonable explanation is some form of mental disorder brought on by either upbringing or some unknown factor.

you keep speaking of "proof" but all you have here is almost 2000 posts. God knows how many hours spent writing them.

You brush off any attempt at advice from people that you don't agree with. It's not really advice you want, it's approval for your actions.

I'm finding success in my own way and at the speed i like it, Just like you. And just because this works for you, doesn't mean that you should neglect everything else that has been proven to work for others. Just like i don't neglect that there are times that being completely random does work.

Until you post what happens with these very same girls. the "Red Haired" and the "Yoshi" girls after you call and attempt a day 2 with them. i'm going to write you off as a mentally/socially challenged boy, and as such you will be treated by me accordingly.

And if anybody wants to know why i call him Histrionic, read this.
http://www.nvo.com/psych_help/histrionicpersonalitydisorder/

 

[Wynston]

Taken out of context anything is random... Randomness itself is a trait used by hypnotists and used in mentalism to create pattern breaks and ultimately confusion.. Confusion is a highly suggestive and weakened state and things like phone numbers, getting them to follow you somewhere could be done.. See Derren Browns stuff he's a genius..

Random and random humour is more of a british thing see Monty Python, The Mighty Boosh, Russell Brand even tho the US has had progs like Police Squad and anything with the genius that is Leslie Nielson in..

What being random does is, if done properly it creates a level of high intelligence (even though you may be talking about slaying dragons etc..) it shows a level of creativity and a free thinking mind not bound by structure, sub consciously she may be thinking "even though you are talking poo, you dont seem to be following any rules and you seem quite creative" it does work.

If done incorrectly or to a girl that is structured and inflexible then you will come across as an immature a-hole, but hey who wants to be with a structured inflexible biaatch!?

What Elstud did and what most of you have failed to realise is that he created a situation in where they thought "what the hell are you talking about?" a situation in which he had full control of again causing the very suggestive state of confusion.. PLus Elstud probably enjoys conversing in the abstract and would like to find a girl who enjoys spouting poo from her mouth which is fine..

I recall a conversation I had with a HB9.5 she was by far the hottest girl in the club and my friends workmate.. I decided to see what she was made of, so I asked her "Have you ever seen a dog sh!t white" (recalling that when I was younger I used to see this all the time and I didnt anymore) after an initial snicker and "Wha....you're crazy!!" we had a conversation about it, I could see that she was enjoying herself and it was refreshing for her, I subsequently left with her number and dated her for 6 months before I went to college..

So Elstud you have tapped into the world of suggestive, hypnotic language and you didnt mean to.. Well done!! Keep up the sh!t talking

 

[daygameguy]

she's like "That's interesting".

Sorry dude. I feel she might be just being polite. You need to aim at mesmerizing her, winning her over. Being playful and humorous is good, but simple being "crazy" is not really alpha.

Then I just started making freaking Yoshi noises. I'm talking about freaking Nintendo and freaking Yoshi and getting interest, this is proof that words don't matter.

Words do matter. Its just that the delivery matters more. I believe in the "I don't care" attitude, self amusement concepts, but you are not calibrating your game according to the situation.

And near the ends of both of these "random" interactions I just took the girls hands and kissed the top of them and neither rejected. Probably could of gone for a full frontal kiss close if I had the balls.

Kissing on the hand is not playful or ballsy. Its very formal and often AFC.

And the end both of the girls were interested enough to the point where they gave the numbers.

These are college girls man, they give out numbers easily. You have to create deep seated attraction in a girl, she should be mesmerized by your approach.

overall i think you need to seriously revamp your game. Add more alpha-ness to your approaches. Cut down the rapport building, cut down the childish humor, add alpha ness, add playfulness.

Tips for you:
funny = clown, playful = alpha.
numbers = wood, dates = potential relationships.
FRs = bytes of useless data, Personal growth/successful relationships = what you should aim for.

 

[Single_Sucks]

Elstud,

Getting numbers is the easy part, really. A girl often gives her number away with the intention of never seeing that dude again. She knows she can flake so easily with a number, might even give it to you to get you away from her.

10/10 for effort but i'm afraid you can't claim any form of success until you've been on a date with one of these girls. Good luck.

 

[ElStud]

You have to realize though why most guys are hating. For one, they worry about words too much when they really don't mean crap. I went up to these girls and just completely improvised. And like someone earlier said, if you're criticizing my cold approaches and you don't actually go out, shame on you.

All I know is ask one of these guys to go up to a girl with no lines or gameplan and they would fail miserably without their preset "words" approaches. I see the whole approaching thing as improv if anything and these girls loved it.

Besides, as of today and tommorow I've already planned 2 dates with girls I've called.

it's funny. the guy gets so much hate but he's got no approach anxiety cold approaching lone wolf, which is phenomenal. if you're hating on the guy but can't even cold approach yourself, shame on you

and yea, words don't matter if you have the proper subcommunication. what he's learning is what most natural gamers figure out eventually - that when you're in state and being authentic, you can talk about anything. RSD instructors have their students go out and make animal noises and talk about salad and other nonsense just to prove it. the endgame is all about subcommunication

ElStud's biggest problem right now is he doesn't have a proper model in his head about how to further the interactions. so he's out there doing his hit or miss thing and sometimes misses some common sense stuff. but he's gonna get it eventually - just by virtue of pushing his comfort zone.

This post is good stuff man, the stuff that deserves to repped. But what is the proper model though? I want to know this so I can improve.