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[BPH]

If you set out purely for a ONS then I guess you got the job done

But from what you've wrote it doesn't sound like this chick is exactly swimming in quality

35 / Flakey / Promiscuous career / Fake B00Bs / House sharing / Dating apps

This doesn't really paint a picture of a woman you would be wanting to introduce to freinds or family which is likely why she's still on the shelf at 35

Again if you set out for a one night hook up then you got what you wanted , but where do you go from here ?

At 35 this chick is really too old in the tooth for casual hookup's , and her career is a naturally flakey / promiscuous one

It just feels like it was a lot of work for a ONS , you could have had the same result on a generic night out and probably saved a lot of the nonsense building up to it

I do what I do because I like variety, the fact that I have a high notch is simply a byproduct of that.

If I wanted to get low-effort sex for free I could hit up my consistent FWB or either of the other girls I've been seeing when I want to mix it up and bit and maintain them.

But I like experiencing new women; they kiss differently, they f*** differently, and their bodies respond differently (some squirt, some scream, some scratch, some bite, etc), and I enjoy the novelty of that with attractive women. For this reason, I'm perfectly willing to travel a bit, pay a bit, and spend a bit of my time with someone new.

I understand what you mean though. It didn't feel like a lot of work, maybe that's how it sounds when I try to recount so many details. My only real complaints were the 1-hour drive each way to see her, and the fact that we didn't get to sleep until 7 AM because despite being in her apartment alone at night she still had to decide whether she knew me well enough to f*** me.

As for where to go from here, that ball is kinda in her court. I'd be fine either way. I'm not looking for a serious relationship; I can't afford one, don't want to base my decisions around somebody else, and have to worry about moving out and creating a better financial situation for myself - I don't need the added responsibilities of juggling somebody else's happiness alongside my own. If she's not looking for a casual hookup relationship either, that's fine too - I have other girls to scratch that itch. But I certainly wouldn't mind having somebody I could visit when/if I'm up in Philadelphia.

As for being able to get a similar result from a generic night out close by, not really. I live in suburban Wilmington where there are only 2 main areas people go to; the college bars or Trolley Square. The former I feel like I've outgrown...when women who were otherwise hot went cold right in front of my eyes after I answered the "How old are you?" question it made me feel like I might be fishing in the wrong waters. The latter I almost never enjoy; there are almost never any hot girls out there - it's always a bunch of guys and maybe 1 or 2 passable women. I've slept with 2 women that I met while out there, and neither was particularly noteworthy. In both instances, I was looking to get over a dry spell and didn't aim as high as I usually do. Anywhere else more fun requires a 40-60 minute drive, which I'm not willing to make after having a couple of drinks in my system.

 

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If I wanted to get low-effort sex for free I could hit up my consistent FWB or either of the other girls I've been seeing when I want to mix it up and bit and maintain them.

I am a strong Pleasure of Sex man so I find doing this appealing. It's likely low

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35 / Flakey / Promiscuous career / Fake B00Bs / House sharing / Dating apps

This doesn't really paint a picture of a woman you would be wanting to introduce to freinds or family which is likely why she's still on the shelf at 35

Again if you set out for a one night hook up then you got what you wanted , but where do you go from here ?

At 35 this chick is really too old in the tooth for casual hookup's , and her career is a naturally flakey / promiscuous one

It's tough to have an exclusive LTR with a flight attendant given that they are gone a lot of time. Many men aren't going to like that their woman would be at work during their leisure time.

I'm early 40s so 35 and nice breast implants sounds good to me. That's more of a casual sex thing than a longer term relationship thing.

It just feels like it was a lot of work for a ONS , you could have had the same result on a generic night out and probably saved a lot of the nonsense building up to it

As for being able to get a similar result from a generic night out close by, not really. I live in suburban Wilmington where there are only 2 main areas people go to; the college bars or Trolley Square. The former I feel like I've outgrown...when women who were otherwise hot went cold right in front of my eyes after I answered the "How old are you?" question it made me feel like I might be fishing in the wrong waters. The latter I almost never enjoy; there are almost never any hot girls out there - it's always a bunch of guys and maybe 1 or 2 passable women. I've slept with 2 women that I met while out there, and neither was particularly noteworthy. In both instances, I was looking to get over a dry spell and didn't aim as high as I usually do. Anywhere else more fun requires a 40-60 minute drive, which I'm not willing to make after having a couple of drinks in my system.

@Bingo-Player 's statement would be true if @BPH didn't live in Wilmington, DE. If @BPH lived in a major American city, then going out to a bar and seeking same night sex from an in-person approach would make more sense.

Wilmington is a mid-sized city and is limiting. Population wise, it looks decent with New Castle County having 570,000 residents but it sits in Philadelphia's shadow as it is only 35 miles from Philadelphia. The single crowd in that region is more likely to be in Philadelphia.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Your whole comment is made to minimize a successful night with your opinions on what this woman is doing wrong, rather than what I did right.

Why?

To restate pikeman's point in less antagonistic terms, it appears that the object of your pursuit was DTF from the get-go, with her protestations about not feeling well being part of the game that women routinely play in situations like this (commonly known as "let's pretend I'm not a slut"). So your success may have had as much to do with her being a low-hanging fruit as it did with any seduction excellence on your part. That's not to say that you did anything wrong. Some inexperienced guys would've shot themselves in the foot and screwed it up.

Ay the end of the day, you are a good-looking young guy and she's a slutty 35-year-old who's new to the city. Don't act like you're a mobility scooter-using pensioner who's managed to seduce a 20-year-old waitress at a local all-you-can-eat buffet.

 

[BPH]

To restate pikeman's point in less antagonistic terms, it appears that the object of your pursuit was DTF from the get-go, with her protestations about not feeling well being part of the game that women routinely play in situations like this (commonly known as "let's pretend I'm not a slut"). So your success may have had as much to do with her being a low-hanging fruit as it did with any seduction excellence on your part. That's not to say that you did anything wrong. Some inexperienced guys would've shot themselves in the foot and screwed it up.

Ay the end of the day, you are a good-looking young guy and she's a slutty 35-year-old who's new to the city. Don't act like you're a mobility scooter-using pensioner who's managed to seduce a 20-year-old waitress at a local all-you-can-eat buffet.

The post is meant to be more educational than braggadocios.

Some will assume the girl is trashy and must be a slut for sleeping with me on a first date, disregarding everything else.

Others will see where they might've stopped short in the same situation, and learned how they can keep moving forward by reading how I managed to do so.

Different people will take away different things.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Sounds like a former slut in a good girl phase. Persistance pays OP but as others have said this is work. A flight attendant with fake boobs who is flaking, speed-bumping slow-moving kisses, making peeps wait until 7am to phuck after she has pizza breath isn't anything out of a porno, nor is this chick any kind of relationship material given her lukewarm interest.

Kudos for making a hardcase, for what it's worth.

Maybe this is where health and fitness comes into play, as you have the energy level to deal with these things.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I understand what you mean though. It didn't feel like a lot of work, maybe that's how it sounds when I try to recount so many details. My only real complaints were the 1-hour drive each way to see her, and the fact that we didn't get to sleep until 7 AM because despite being in her apartment alone at night she still had to decide whether she knew me well enough to f*** me.

Well if you apply a time cost to it there's around 9 hours work between driving to meet this woman and getting her comfortable enough to take the pipe

This is a woman that sounds like she has likely put out A LOT faster in her younger years

She knew sex was on the second she invited you back to her place drunk ... why it then took until the early hours of the morning and a pizza to get the deed done is anyones guess...

Like I said this chick is really too old to be indulging in these sort of pointless flings ( which I'm guessing she already knows ) she's in last chance saloon for kids and the provider type partner,

Which from what you say you are very much not going to fit that criteria

It sounds like you've just gone for a hookup which is fine but again I don't really see this going any further so only you know if it was worth that 9-10 hours of your time

 

[BPH]

Sounds like a former slut in a good girl phase. Persistance pays OP but as others have said this is work. A flight attendant with fake boobs who is flaking, speed-bumping slow-moving kisses, making peeps wait until 7am to phuck after she has pizza breath isn't anything out of a porno, nor is this chick any kind of relationship material given her lukewarm interest.

Kudos for making a hardcase, for what it's worth.

Maybe this is where health and fitness comes into play, as you have the energy level to deal with these things.

She might be, but I get around a lot so I'd feel like a hypocrite if I thought less of a woman because she was also promiscuous.

I wear protection and don't enter into situations where I'd be worried about whether my girl is "clean".

If I were looking for a relationship or something more serious I'd have different standards in place. Right now I'm just enjoying casual sex with new women before cuffing season fully sets in.

And for what it's worth, she brushed her teeth after the pizza.

Well if you apply a time cost to it there's around 9 hours work between driving to meet this woman and getting her comfortable enough to take the pipe

This is a woman that sounds like she has likely put out A LOT faster in her younger years

She knew sex was on the second she invited you back to her place drunk ... why it then took until the early hours of the morning and a pizza to get the deed done is anyones guess...

Like I said this chick is really too old to be indulging in these sort of pointless flings ( which I'm guessing she already knows ) she's in last chance saloon for kids and the provider type partner,

Which from what you say you are very much not going to fit that criteria

It sounds like you've just gone for a hookup which is fine but again I don't really see this going any further so only you know if it was worth that 9-10 hours of your time

It doesn't have to go any further, anything more is a bonus.

Best case scenario I have a new FWB that I can visit every so often when/if I go out in Philly and don't come away with someone I meet that night. Worst case scenario I spent some time and money to bed an attractive fake-ti**ed 35-year-old twice over while being treated to pizza and wine.

As for why it took so long to get to that point; according to her she was self-conscious, had a headache because she said she hadn't eaten, and didn't feel like she knew me well enough. How much truth there is to that, I'll never know, but she vocalized her nervousness and the conscious decision she was making to get a buzz going so she could loosen up. She's been very responsive over text following all this, so I'd say she's content with the outcome of that decision.

I understand the time cost might've turned some off, but like I said, I enjoy the novelty. I didn't have anything else going on that night and tossed out that text with the assumption I would either not hear back or would get a "no".

This post just shows how sometimes you can make something out of nothing if you know what you're doing.