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[00Kevin]

ok a girl at work did this to me. Problem was that I was so tired yesterday i didn't clue in and I forgot how to respond to it.

This girl came to work late in the afternoon dressed like a little hoe in a pink leather mini skirt. She then told me she had to work on something with me.

so we worked on the problem until after the boss went home. Then out of no place she pulled up her pocket pc and flashed me the address of a hotel. She started joking about it saying that she used it on firday. Then she said that she likes the cheese cake there.

I made jokes with her about having sex there and stuff but I wasn't sure what she wanted.

I think i jsut need to tell her that I want to have sex with her. Maybe i'll say, "hey if you want a fun friend tonight let me know. Just keep it quiet and don't say anything" or I'll say in a serious tone while I look in her eyes," do you feel like some cheese cake?"

I'm sure there will be another chance to bang this girl.

I think she was trying to implant a suggestion in my head about the hotel. I could be wrong though.

Any thought on this kind of situation? Girls don't ask you right out if they want to have sex with you. I think they focus on planting suggestions.

 

[Royal Elite]

This is how you end up as a nothing more then a friend. Obviously you want to have sex with her, so you need to start making moves. She wants you some type of way now you need to go find out. She eithers wants to sex your, or she wants your attention to possibly get into a relationship with you. So you need to decide what you want, and then figure out a game plan after that. You can't have an effective plan of action if you dont even know exactly what you want.

 

[sapphire]

You are absolutely correct. Only a bonafide slut that you hardly know will outright tell you she wants to fyck. Otherwise women give you suggestions or hints through body language or things they say. You just have to be on your toes and know when to spot them.

Not too long ago, I started dating a really hot latin chick and one night after leaving a restaurant, which happened to be close to my apartment, she said that she was thirsty and wanted to drop by my house to get something to drink before going to her house. This was like 2:00 in the morning and after a night of drinking.

I like an odiot stopped by a seven eleven and bought her a bottle of water instead. Only after dropping her off at her house did I realize the big hint she was giving me; that she used the "I am thirsty routine" as an excuse to spend the night at my apartment. Whether she was actually thirsy or not, I don't know but my gut says otherwise. And it is a shame because this girl had the finest butt and rack I have not seen in a long time.

So, yes. Women give you little clues when they want sex unless she is your GF or wife in which case they will make it clear.

 

[squirrels]

If I take a girl out locally, I usually find some excuse to get her back to my place.

Cheesecake guy...oops.

 

[00Kevin]

When you detect that a girl is planting the suggestion of sex how do you respond? do you simply tell her and then make a date for some some fun? or do you trick her by asking her out and then ensure that everything falls in place?

My gut instinct is telling me to just proposition her.. If she doesn't respond then I don't really care.

As far as this AW is concerned I've already told her a few times that I'm just looking for a fun girl. Not a relationship. We had the relationship vs fun friend talk a while ago. She isn't looking for a relationship either.

 

[Royal Elite]

Originally posted by 00Kevin
When you detect that a girl is planting the suggestion of sex how to you respond? do you simply tell her and then make a date for some some fun? or do you trick her by asking her out and then ensure that everything falls in place?

My gut instinct is telling me to just proposition her.. If she doesn't respond then I don't really care.

As far as this AW is concerned I've already told her a few times that I'm just looking for a fun girl. Not a relationship. We had the relationship vs fun friend talk a while ago. She isn't looking for a relationship either.

So now that you no her intentions and yours also it's clear what to do. You need to propositon her. It's already clear what both parties are looking for in life and you both want the same thing, so it' either she is sexually attracted to you, or not. So ask, you are not dealing with a princess, so don't deal with her like one.

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by Royal Elite
So now that you no her intentions and yours also it's clear what to do. You need to propositon her. It's already clear what both parties are looking for in life and you both want the same thing, so it' either she is sexually attracted to you, or not. So ask, you are not dealing with a princess, so don't deal with her like one.

yeah that is how I feel about it too. She is a major attention w-hore however.

 

[Royal Elite]

Originally posted by 00Kevin
yeah that is how I feel about it too. She is a major attention w-hore however.

She's an attention hor and you are a man, so the trade off is her sex for your attention. Nothing in life is free.

This reminds me of what rollo posted in the what maturity taught you that youth didnt post

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71070

He said he leaned about not always taking the short cut in life, life is about giving and taking and you cant take if you are not expected to give.

 

[00Kevin]

It would be nice if this forum had some info on

1) how to spot a sex suggestion from a woman.
2) Good ways to respond and follow through.
3) many examples

Some of it might be common sense to us, but newbies or AFCs would find it to be very valuable.

I'll bet AFCs miss these clues all the time and don't even realize it.

 

[Maximus_Decimus]

Originally posted by 00Kevin
When you detect that a girl is planting the suggestion of sex how do you respond? do you simply tell her and then make a date for some some fun? or do you trick her by asking her out and then ensure that everything falls in place?

My gut instinct is telling me to just proposition her.. If she doesn't respond then I don't really care.

As far as this AW is concerned I've already told her a few times that I'm just looking for a fun girl. Not a relationship. We had the relationship vs fun friend talk a while ago. She isn't looking for a relationship either.

You never directly ask a woman for sex. Any normal woman should be putting up ASD (Anti Slut Defense) immediately if you do so. If you want to do it at your place, find an excuse to get her back to your apartment/house. Whatever method you go about using, the end result in her mind after you have sex should be "Oh, it just happened. I was really going over to his house to <insert excuse here> but things just happened so quickly after that"

Maximus_Decimus

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by sapphire
You are absolutely correct. Only a bonafide slut that you hardly know will outright tell you she wants to fyck. Otherwise women give you suggestions or hints through body language or things they say. You just have to be on your toes and know when to spot them.

Not too long ago, I started dating a really hot latin chick and one night after leaving a restaurant, which happened to be close to my apartment, she said that she was thirsty and wanted to drop by my house to get something to drink before going to her house. This was like 2:00 in the morning and after a night of drinking.

I like an odiot stopped by a seven eleven and bought her a bottle of water instead. Only after dropping her off at her house did I realize the big hint she was giving me; that she used the "I am thirsty routine" as an excuse to spend the night at my apartment. Whether she was actually thirsy or not, I don't know but my gut says otherwise. And it is a shame because this girl had the finest butt and rack I have not seen in a long time.

So, yes. Women give you little clues when they want sex unless she is your GF or wife in which case they will make it clear.

This would be the case where the girl asks for something that you can provide.

That means that when you are on a date and a girl asks for something you should consider how to use her request in your favour. oh I'm thirsty... (dj thinks.. yeah I have "something" for you to drink).

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by Maximus_Decimus
You never directly ask a woman for sex. Any normal woman should be putting up ASD (Anti Slut Defense) immediately if you do so. If you want to do it at your place, find an excuse to get her back to your apartment/house. Whatever method you go about using, the end result in her mind after you have sex should be "Oh, it just happened. I was really going over to his house to <insert excuse here> but things just happened so quickly after that"

Maximus_Decimus

If i read this girl correctly she has already picked the place. The hotel! It is actally the only thing that works out for us because I live so damn far away from work and she lives with her mom.

What you are suggesting just isn't my style. That would be too much effort to get sex. There are less direct ways to ask a woman for sex without actually asking for it. On the other hand, I know girls that have told me I just turned them on when I told them I would have sex with them.



Getting her to that hotel seems like the logical corse of action

 

[Royal Elite]

Originally posted by 00Kevin
It would be nice if this forum had some info on

1) how to spot a sex suggestion from a woman.
2) Good ways to respond and follow through.
3) many examples

Some of it might be common sense to us, but newbies or AFCs would find it to be very valuable.

I'll bet AFCs miss these clues all the time and don't even realize it.

This is impossible since all women arent the same. A slut is a slut and what clues do you need to deal with a slut. The biggest things you need to learn with dealing with women and finding out what type of woman she is.

The biggest thing two many people dont get is that "all woman arent the same". Anybody good with women knows how to "assess" women or read them really quick then act accordingly.

A blantent slut will be turned off by subtle flirting, while a slut who pretends to not be slutty will "pretend" to be offended, whereas a good girl "will" actually be offended with blatent talk. The most invaluable skill you can get is how to read women, which is nothing more then observation with eyes, and ears.

 

[sapphire]

Originally posted by Royal Elite
This is impossible since all women arent the same. A slut is a slut and what clues do you need to deal with a slut. The biggest things you need to learn with dealing with women and finding out what type of woman she is.

The biggest thing two many people dont get is that "all woman arent the same". Anybody good with women knows how to "assess" women or read them really quick then act accordingly.

A blantent slut will be turned off by subtle flirting, while a slut who pretends to not be slutty will "pretend" to be offended, whereas a good girl "will" actually be offended with blatent talk. The most invaluable skill you can get is how to read women, which is nothing more then observation with eyes, and ears.

This is a good rule of thumb and something I have learned through trial and error. When dealing with a slut or freak, you have to be more blatant and less subtle about your intentions whereas with a good girl patience and subtlety is the key to getting her to go to bed with you.

The key as RE said is correctly classifying the type of girl you are with in order to have sex with her. If you are out with a freak/slut and treat her like a good girl then she will be turned off and vice versa. And, if you are with a good girl and treat her like a freak, then, obviously, you are going to get rebuffed.

Player Supreme posted a good thread on this subject concerning observation skills and how to deal with different types of women.

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by Royal Elite
This is impossible since all women arent the same. A slut is a slut and what clues do you need to deal with a slut. The biggest things you need to learn with dealing with women and finding out what type of woman she is.

The biggest thing two many people dont get is that "all woman arent the same". Anybody good with women knows how to "assess" women or read them really quick then act accordingly.

A blantent slut will be turned off by subtle flirting, while a slut who pretends to not be slutty will "pretend" to be offended, whereas a good girl "will" actually be offended with blatent talk. The most invaluable skill you can get is how to read women, which is nothing more then observation with eyes, and ears.

according to what you are saying the first step is to read her.

1) slut who acts likea good girl
2) blantent slut
3) good girl

1) a slut who acts like a good girl will plant suggestions in your head but expect that you manipulate the situation without directly asking for it. She is the girl that will use anti-slut defence. This requires more work on your part.

2) a blantent slut can be idenfitied by how she dresses around other women. Does she wear slutly clothing at the office. Does she use sexual Innuendo when she talks? this girl you can be direct with.

3) A good girl won't sleep with you ouside a relationship anyway so you can end the process right there. She also won't plant sex suggestions in your head.

The next step is how to respond to #1 and #2 and then follow through for each.

 

[Squid]

Originally posted by 00Kevin


3) A good girl won't sleep with you ouside a relationship anyway so you can end the process right there. She also won't plant sex suggestions in your head.

I don't agree with this one, the sex suggestions will just be more subtle. Good girls like sex too, but you definitely have to lead up to it with them. Like a previous post said, you need to make it seem like it wasn't planned and "it just happened". But don't ever think for a second that there is a "type" of woman who is above "just having sex", you just have to know how to handle the situation.

 

[sapphire]

There are plenty of closet sluts who try to act the part of the good girl and these usually have a high level of ASD. They, no less, can be freaks in bed once you have broken through the ASD.

Unlike overt sluts, they will not directly ask for sex but only suggest it or give hints and let you manipulate the situation so they can't blame themselves the next morning for having fycked you.

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by Squid
I don't agree with this one, the sex suggestions will just be more subtle. Good girls like sex too, but you definitely have to lead up to it with them. Like a previous post said, you need to make it seem like it wasn't planned and "it just happened". But don't ever think for a second that there is a "type" of woman who is above "just having sex", you just have to know how to handle the situation.

well that is true. The problem is that a good girl is relationship material. If she is relationship material then you would want more from her would you not? Geting a girl for a relationship is much more complex then geting a girl for sex.

 

[Royal Elite]

Originally posted by 00Kevin
according to what you are saying the first step is to read her.

1) slut who acts likea good girl
2) blantent slut
3) good girl

1) a slut who acts like a good girl will plant suggestions in your head but expect that you manipulate the situation without directly asking for it. She is the girl that will use anti-slut defence. This requires more work on your part.

2) a blantent slut can be idenfitied by how she dresses around other women. Does she wear slutly clothing at the office. Does she use sexual Innuendo when she talks? this girl you can be direct with.

3) A good girl won't sleep with you ouside a relationship anyway so you can end the process right there. She also won't plant sex suggestions in your head.

The next step is how to respond to #1 and #2 and then follow through for each.

One of the things that have been successful with me in getting sex is that I never "treat" anyone like a slut. If I know she is a slut I will be more aggressive but I never actually deal with her in a manner that says you slut. When I access the situation I use that info for my mental general who is planning the strategy.

Why do I do this, because I am also aware of the "image" I want to project as well as the image she is projecting. I am a good, nice, charming guy, so a slut will never feel guilty later about any thing that happen with me, and I can hit again later if I want.

So no matter what my game plan is, which I make up on the fly, the girl will never in a million years "know" I actually "think" she is the slut she is. But this is me, because I like knowing people feel comfortable around me, too me that is good karma.

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by sapphire
There are plenty of closet sluts who try to act the part of the good girl and these usually have a high level of ASD. They, no less, can be freaks in bed once you have broken through the ASD.

Unlike overt sluts, they will not directly ask for sex but only suggest it or give hints and let you manipulate the situation so they can't blame themselves the next morning for having fycked you.

I think that in the end ALL girls don't want to blame themselves for having sex. They want a reason to say "oh it just happened"