Find a woman who is a 6-7 in objective looks but a 9-10 to you in subjective looks

[Francis]

That's debatable.

You complain an awful lot about material things. And you b!tch about women quite a bit.

Not a good combo.

I've generally found that the most unsuccessful people are the ones who do the majority of complaining, criticizing, and/or trying to drag other people down with them and their viewpoints (not to mention sabotage others from doing well). Not just as it pertains to women & dating although that was a huge topic in my 20s (out in the real world). The successful guys were mostly being successful and doing them.

This is why I don't take a lot of advice or comments seriously, especially on the internet. It's not necessarily what they say, but who's saying it. What are their qualifications? Being a bitter failure (even by their own account) and complaining non-stop isn't a good one. For some people, that's all they do. Just as bullies will always criticize and one-up. It doesn't make anything they say worthwhile or true.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Most men are 4s. That’s the point, bro. Most people are average. Average people get average people. They don’t get 9s. No amount of game will do it.

How do you rate yourself?

 

[EyeBRollin]

How do you rate yourself?

8. You?

 

[Bokanovsky]

8. You?

11.

 

[B80]

plus women don’t rate men on a bell curve. They did research on women’s ratings on dating apps.

men rated like 60% women as average and about 20% below average and 20% above average.

women rated 40% men as “lowest possible rating”
The rest were “average”
They rated a tiny fraction as “above average”
They rated zero - none at all, as the highest rating.

just shows the truth. Women are searching for quality and have impossible standards for most men.

bear in mind this is based on looks, but looks aren’t in the main why women choose men.

Problem is I suspect a lot of men don;t help themselves. women can use makeup and generally are happier to spend time taking loads of selfies, finding best angles etc, where I suspect a lot of men just put up half arsed pics that don;t show them in the best lights.

When I first joined tinder I put up any old photos I had and the results were terrible. I've since taken better photos and as cringey as it is, a topless one too (I've been lifting weights for 20 years, I don;t use roids, but lean (abs clearly visible and muscular as far as nattys go). No bio, just put age 41, 6"2, athletic and the difference has been phenomenal. Maybe viewed as a humble/not so humble brag, but just confirmation that photos make a massive difference to your success - probably doesn;t come as a surprise to many on here.

 

[derby1]

This depends where you are.

£35k is what delivery drivers and low end plumbers and builders make here.

£160k would buy You a house the size of a postage stamp.

most the single mothers near me live in large flats in tower blocks.

FYI in the south but not London.

if A dudes making 40k and his woman 20k they can prob buy a house worth 220k.

it’s nearly always better than a council house.

that explains it then, in the midlands they get put on half decent housing estates

brand new housing estates in some cases.

if you venture into birmingham you will see the tower blocks you talk of, its almost like theyve got two different rates, because the ones who live in towns have a right cushy life, if they move a beta orbiter in

 

[B80]

that explains it then, in the midlands they get put on half decent housing estates

brand new housing estates in some cases.

if you venture into birmingham you will see the tower blocks you talk of, its almost like theyve got two different rates, because the ones who live in towns have a right cushy life, if they move a beta orbiter in

they do get moved into new decent estates too in the south now. as mentioned, new developments have to allocate a % to housing association. I recently picked up something I bought off ebay from someone in a nice house that I assume they owned from a new estate I looked at 3 or 4 years ago where places were going for 500k and recall seeing plans and asking them which were for housing association.

A lot of people buying these places aren't happy with the arrangement, as I guess if you're spending 500k+ on a house, part of the draw is minimizing chance of being around certain types of characters - not that everyone on welfare is some kind of criminal of course, but odds increase. they probably don;t want their kids surrounded by certain 'types' as much as possible. But I guess the alternative is, don;t buy a house there.

obviously they can;t pick and choose which estate they move to as far as i'm aware. you're on the list and once somewhere suitable (for size of your family) becomes available, you move there. maybe there are other factors considered, but you may get a nice new place on a decent estate, or you may be dropped into an old, historically dodgy area.

 

[derby1]

A lot of people buying these places aren't happy with the arrangement, as I guess if you're spending 500k+ on a house, part of the draw is minimizing chance of being around certain types of characters - not that everyone on welfare is some kind of criminal of course, but odds increase. they probably don;t want their kids surrounded by certain 'types' as much as possible. But I guess the alternative is, don;t buy a house

if youve heard of a village called Brewood(wolverhampton), its literally idyllic like Midsomer murders with john thaw....and slapp bang in the middle is a load of coal-board houses they give to low hanging fruit,,

like you say it doesnt mean theyre bad people, but they have trashy habits like leaving rolled up nappies outside etc

 

[Bokanovsky]

Problem is I suspect a lot of men don;t help themselves. women can use makeup and generally are happier to spend time taking loads of selfies, finding best angles etc, where I suspect a lot of men just put up half arsed pics that don;t show them in the best lights.

When I first joined tinder I put up any old photos I had and the results were terrible. I've since taken better photos and as cringey as it is, a topless one too (I've been lifting weights for 20 years, I don;t use roids, but lean (abs clearly visible and muscular as far as nattys go). No bio, just put age 41, 6"2, athletic and the difference has been phenomenal. Maybe viewed as a humble/not so humble brag, but just confirmation that photos make a massive difference to your success - probably doesn;t come as a surprise to many on here.

That's what I do too. Good pics, age, height, job (I have a high status one) and that's it.

 

[biggoal]

Even if you try it, it's likely she will be too insecure and sabotage the relationship. Plus, she has plenty of options online well above her(and your) SMV for sex

Then where are these "hot" women at? Most I see online are not above a 6 on the hot scale.

 

[B80]

Then where are these "hot" women at? Most I see online are not above a 6 on the hot scale.

South coast in England, plenty of hot women, or attractive at least (solid 7-8's) on Tinder. I know its subjective, but going by what people have posted on here in the past, I'm not one to over inflate womens looks.

 

[biggoal]

South coast in England, plenty of hot women, or attractive at least (solid 7-8's) on Tinder. I know its subjective, but going by what people have posted on here in the past, I'm not one to over inflate womens looks.

Funny the hot ones you see on tinder like hb8 the few times you see them it's always fake profile lol. Why? I swipe on the hotties and 2 mins later they message back. Around here they all used this canned reply cut and pastee about being a nurse and just moved here from europe and it's never a local photo.