Finally got the wakeup call I needed about OF, that site is toxic to men

[needimprovement250]

Until you fix your PIED issue, there's no point in trying to deal with the mating environment.

Yeah I agree. Its pointless until this issue is resolved because even if I did hit it off with a girl and things led to the bedroom, the whole connection would fall apart from failing to have sex due to PIED. I've heard it can take 3-6 months to reverse, so I'm gonna make use of that time by learning more about what I need to know in order to even pull women in the first place. I came across this video since posting this thread and this guy pretty much took the words out of my mouth. From how ripped he is, he could pull for a ONS very easily and probably get more than that without much difficulty either, but he has PIED too from a severe porn addiction that has led him to spend around $20K on OF. That and having PIED has really messed with him, and I can relate because realizing you have PIED definitely does mess with you and makes you feel like a broken man.

 

[corrector]

From how ripped he is, he could pull for a ONS very easily and probably get more than that without much difficulty either, but he has PIED too from a severe porn addiction that has led him to spend around $20K on OF. That and having PIED has really messed with him, and I can relate because realizing you have PIED definitely does mess with you and makes you feel like a broken man.

If you have a true addiction to this stuff, then it is dangerous. We don't have that much money in the first place. He also looks like he's driving a nice car. He doesn't look like a broke pay-cheque to paycheque dude scrounging through his last dollars for a fiver like you are portraying.

 

[BPH]

It's wild to me that some of these girls have the balls to publicly insult the fanbase that pays for their lifestyle...

Maybe there's a market that has a humiliation fetish or something, but if I had a fanbase that was subsidizing my entire life, I probably wouldn't be making fun of them for paying for it.

 

[corrector]

It's wild to me that some of these girls have the balls to publicly insult the fanbase that pays for their lifestyle...

Maybe there's a market that has a humiliation fetish or something, but if I had a fanbase that was subsidizing my entire life, I probably wouldn't be making fun of them for paying for it.

There is allot of content on youtube showing these girls dont have anything sustainable in the long run. The real test is where are they going to end up 30 years from now? Their reputation in the corporate world is cratared, no true high value guy will take them seriously, and fast money and fast life only goes so far before the cracks start forming and things start to implode in itself. There is just allot of youtube vids showing that angle. Therefore, its fair to say dont take it too seriously.

 

[corrector]

To indulge the OP, I just spent $ 48 on OnlyFans costs over the past month, bringing my total account balance to near $ 120. The between paycheque parts are very low. But, I can tell you the people I have subscribed to is not going to make statements of buying a home or living it up with that money. I'm more upset at the circumstances that I am in, where a payment of $ 48 would feel hard rather than feeling ripped off or wanting to curse someone who I paid the money too (which I don't feel that way).

The way I see it, even if I went with a cheap escort, it would still have cost $ 80 / hh, so that's a savings of $ 32 on what may have been a totally fleeting moment at best, whereas with OnlyFans you can take your time and look at the pictures/videos on there. The point is, when you are just fvcked financially, you can't afford nothing, no girlfriend, wife, or escort, or whatever. I know if I lost my job then my car would get repoed (while I"m almost finished paying the loan too) so I'm in a pretty crappy spot in life, on top of taking care of elderly folks who interrupt me frequently.

I've also spent near $ 120 in tithe payments (ie money going to ministries, spreading out the gospel). There is still more money spent on good purposes then indulgent ones. However, OnlyFans never promised to help me financially, I think that's more of God's department (ie yeah, the tithe thing) so at the end of the day, the buck falls with God, not with OnlyFans, which is there to distract when God is not coming through fast enough with what you are believing Him for.

 

[needimprovement250]

If you have a true addiction to this stuff, then it is dangerous. We don't have that much money in the first place. He also looks like he's driving a nice car. He doesn't look like a broke pay-cheque to paycheque dude scrounging through his last dollars for a fiver like you are portraying.

There is allot of content on youtube showing these girls dont have anything sustainable in the long run. The real test is where are they going to end up 30 years from now? Their reputation in the corporate world is cratared, no true high value guy will take them seriously, and fast money and fast life only goes so far before the cracks start forming and things start to implode in itself. There is just allot of youtube vids showing that angle. Therefore, its fair to say dont take it too seriously.

I agree. Unless these OF models are investing some of the money they’re making that will eventually lead to a significant return on investment, they’re gonna end up working at jobs like McDonald’s after OF since they’ll have little to no work experience and a big gap in their resumes. So unless they’re planning ahead, these women will be panicking when they realize their time on OF is over and they have no marketable skills for the workforce since they haven’t worked in years and its only a money maker when they’re young, they’ll age out of it as their current subscribers will move on to the younger new models on there.

I wasn’t comparing that guy’s financial situation to ours. He clearly has more money than either of us if he can blow $20K on OF and can afford a car that nice. I was highlighting what this addiction does to men and how much it messes with a guy when he realizes that he can only get hard with porn and not when having sex with women.

 

[needimprovement250]

To indulge the OP, I just spent $ 48 on OnlyFans costs over the past month, bringing my total account balance to near $ 120. The between paycheque parts are very low. But, I can tell you the people I have subscribed to is not going to make statements of buying a home or living it up with that money. I'm more upset at the circumstances that I am in, where a payment of $ 48 would feel hard rather than feeling ripped off or wanting to curse someone who I paid the money too (which I don't feel that way).

The way I see it, even if I went with a cheap escort, it would still have cost $ 80 / hh, so that's a savings of $ 32 on what may have been a totally fleeting moment at best, whereas with OnlyFans you can take your time and look at the pictures/videos on there. The point is, when you are just fvcked financially, you can't afford nothing, no girlfriend, wife, or escort, or whatever. I know if I lost my job then my car would get repoed (while I"m almost finished paying the loan too) so I'm in a pretty crappy spot in life, on top of taking care of elderly folks who interrupt me frequently.

I've also spent near $ 120 in tithe payments (ie money going to ministries, spreading out the gospel). There is still more money spent on good purposes then indulgent ones. However, OnlyFans never promised to help me financially, I think that's more of God's department (ie yeah, the tithe thing) so at the end of the day, the buck falls with God, not with OnlyFans, which is there to distract when God is not coming through fast enough with what you are believing Him for.

That actually isn’t too bad. I remember 3 years ago I spent $120 on a 1 hour private cam show with a young couple on one of the cam sites. Becoming unemployed right after I did this prevented me from becoming addicted to these private cam shows and costing me even more money. My time unemployed allowed me to think clearly and back off from buying more cam shows even after I started working again. One thing I noticed about having PIED is that its made me become pretty obsessed with other people’s sex lives since I felt so broken and sexually incapable from it in addition to just lacking confidence with women in the first place, I started to believe that living vicariously through other people’s sex lives is the best I can ever do. Cam shows had that much addictive potential for me because I could have a couple all to myself and they would do pretty much whatever position or sex act I asked for. Over time I realized that I should strive to have a sex life of my own and that wanting to live vicariously through the sex lives of others is pathetic and creepy.

That’s good you’re spending more on good purposes like tithe payments too. I’m gonna spend money that would’ve otherwise gone towards OF or cam shows to seek outside help and get me past the issues I have that are holding me back. I am fu*ked financially too since right now I’m only getting to work 8 hrs a week (work is about to start getting busier though) and I also decided to go back to school to get a certification for a career and hopefully I will be finished with school by sometime next year and then my financial situation will get better after I have a career level income. But yeah, right now the lack of free time and finances make it hard for me to date too.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Some wicked affirmations suggested by chat-gpt if you are having self-esteem issues around the idea of using escorts and are picturing this about yourself.

• I am deserving of pleasure and connection on my own terms.
• I have the power to make choices that align with my needs and desires.
• My worth is not defined by the opinions of others.
• I embrace my sexuality without guilt or shame.
• I am in control of my decisions and the experiences I choose.
• My past experiences do not dictate my present choices.
• I have the right to explore and satisfy my desires in a safe and respectful way.
• I am worthy of respectful interactions, regardless of the context.
• Visiting an escort is a personal choice, and I approach it with confidence and respect for myself and others.
• I am at peace with my choices and trust that I am doing what feels right for me.

These affirmations are designed to help you cultivate a healthy mindset and boost your confidence, whether you're navigating decisions regarding escorts or other personal choices. It’s key to frame these thoughts in a way that maintains your sense of autonomy and respect for yourself and others. Keep in mind that confidence often comes from understanding your choices and feeling aligned with your values, which might help in normalizing the idea in a way that feels empowering.

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You said:
how often do I need to say the above affirmations in order to feel good about visiting an escort, if I chose to do so?

ChatGPT said:
The frequency with which you repeat affirmations depends on your personal journey and how deeply you're seeking to reframe your mindset. Affirmations are most effective when they are consistently practiced and integrated into your daily routine. Here's a general guideline for how to use them to help feel good about your decision:

1. Daily Practice: Ideally, say your affirmations every day. This helps you create a consistent and positive mental framework. It can be first thing in the morning, right before bed, or during moments when you feel doubt or uncertainty. The more often you repeat them, the more they can influence your mindset.
2. At Key Moments: In addition to daily repetition, use the affirmations when you feel particularly nervous or unsure about your decision. For example, if you’re considering visiting an escort, take a few moments to repeat these affirmations to ground yourself and reaffirm your autonomy and confidence.
3. When You Feel Guilt or Shame: If you experience negative emotions like guilt or shame around your choice, go back to the affirmations. Acknowledge the emotions without judgment, but remind yourself that you are allowed to make decisions that are right for you, in your own time and space.
4. During Reflection: Take time at the end of each week or month to reflect on how your affirmations have influenced your mindset. Have they helped boost your confidence or shift your perspective? If so, continue the practice. If not, tweak the affirmations or add new ones that might address any new areas of concern.
5. Commitment to the Process: Don't expect instant results. Building confidence and self-acceptance is a gradual process. Be patient with yourself and allow the affirmations to work over time.

Ultimately, consistency is key. The more you practice, the more natural it will feel, and the more likely it is that your mindset will shift to one that feels empowered and aligned with your values when it comes to making decisions about visits to an escort.

But again, I don't visit escorts, (only for religious/spiritual alignment issues) but the whole discussion with AI is still interesting.

Stop letting chatgpt tell you what to think. It's only intelligent in the sense of telling you what you want to hear, in order to keep you engaged.

Self-affirmation has always been loser behavior.

Rather than wallow in self pity, it would be much more productive to identify what draws you to these behaviors in the first place.

 

[Solomon]

Yeah I agree. Its pointless until this issue is resolved because even if I did hit it off with a girl and things led to the bedroom, the whole connection would fall apart from failing to have sex due to PIED. I've heard it can take 3-6 months to reverse, so I'm gonna make use of that time by learning more about what I need to know in order to even pull women in the first place. I came across this video since posting this thread and this guy pretty much took the words out of my mouth. From how ripped he is, he could pull for a ONS very easily and probably get more than that without much difficulty either, but he has PIED too from a severe porn addiction that has led him to spend around $20K on OF. That and having PIED has really messed with him, and I can relate because realizing you have PIED definitely does mess with you and makes you feel like a broken man.

Just watch the video. It's easy to look at this guy and think he has it all together (LMS), he's in the top 1% for his age in regards to physique and money, and in regards to status, he has a very big youtube following (Over Half a million). But he's severely addicted to porn, which has caused ED, self-esteem issues and issues for him connecting with women. This is something that is a real thing. Pornography warps your view on women(and sex) and makes you unable to connect with them on an emotional or even normal level. Because you get into the thought that women should act like they do in porn but that's not real life, it's a w wicket fanstay at best. Pornography has crippled men in the last 30-40 years and it's getting worse. I feel for him because I think a lot of men have been there. Some of us get out, there is light at the end of the tark tunnel of the abyss

 

[MatureDJ]

Yeah I agree. Its pointless until this issue is resolved because even if I did hit it off with a girl and things led to the bedroom, the whole connection would fall apart from failing to have sex due to PIED. I've heard it can take 3-6 months to reverse, so I'm gonna make use of that time by learning more about what I need to know in order to even pull women in the first place. I came across this video since posting this thread and this guy pretty much took the words out of my mouth. From how ripped he is, he could pull for a ONS very easily and probably get more than that without much difficulty either, but he has PIED too from a severe porn addiction that has led him to spend around $20K on OF. That and having PIED has really messed with him, and I can relate because realizing you have PIED definitely does mess with you and makes you feel like a broken man.

That guy looks like a GymCel.

 

[MatureDJ]

That actually isn’t too bad. I remember 3 years ago I spent $120 on a 1 hour private cam show with a young couple on one of the cam sites. Becoming unemployed right after I did this prevented me from becoming addicted to these private cam shows and costing me even more money. My time unemployed allowed me to think clearly and back off from buying more cam shows even after I started working again. One thing I noticed about having PIED is that its made me become pretty obsessed with other people’s sex lives since I felt so broken and sexually incapable from it in addition to just lacking confidence with women in the first place, I started to believe that living vicariously through other people’s sex lives is the best I can ever do. Cam shows had that much addictive potential for me because I could have a couple all to myself and they would do pretty much whatever position or sex act I asked for. Over time I realized that I should strive to have a sex life of my own and that wanting to live vicariously through the sex lives of others is pathetic and creepy.

That’s good you’re spending more on good purposes like tithe payments too. I’m gonna spend money that would’ve otherwise gone towards OF or cam shows to seek outside help and get me past the issues I have that are holding me back. I am fu*ked financially too since right now I’m only getting to work 8 hrs a week (work is about to start getting busier though) and I also decided to go back to school to get a certification for a career and hopefully I will be finished with school by sometime next year and then my financial situation will get better after I have a career level income. But yeah, right now the lack of free time and finances make it hard for me to date too.

So you paid money to some dude to bang some chick per your directions?

 

[corrector]

So you paid money to some dude to bang some chick per your directions?

@needimprovement250, were they were a hetro sexual or lessie couple?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

To answer your questions:

Yeah, I've moved since 13 years ago.

10 years ago when a woman would drive 40 minutes for non-escort sex with me, however, I lived in the same city I currently live in.

My body type is about the same as back then.

It's quite likely my confidence has regressed. The longer I go without non-escort sex, the lower my self-esteem gets. I'm slowly gaining back my confidence as of late though (attending organized events, combined with a new counselor)

As for whether I'm putting in the same effort, not really. Even though I've attended several organized events in the past 5 months, dabbled with some apps, and done some flirting in organic settings, that's still not the same as when I'd spend many hours on dating/hookup websites in my younger days.

Based on previous pics, your body type is what could use a lot of work. Start working out and hitting the gym. Easiest thing you can fix at this point.

 

[SW15]

That guy looks like a GymCel.

I watched this video. In the comments section, people were questioning if this was real and not staged.

If it is real, he is psychologically damaged.

He's 25 years old and struggling to seduce real life women despite a very good physique.

Growing up in an ultra religious household that has beliefs against sex outside of marriage (before marriage) is difficult. Teenage boys are horny at high school ages (14-18) and not emotionally ready for marriage.

I'm wondering how he was treated in high school by the girls in high school. Did they give him choosing signals? What was his social status?

If he had an above average physique, one would think that he would have had opportunities for sex in high school.

Many men turn to porn because high school girls reject them. I don't think he would have had the rejection problems earlier in life.

In the present moment, this is a guy that should be getting laid regularly based on his physique and a sports car. While it could be understandable that he would not get elite looking women, one would think that he could regularly seduce mid-tier women in this looks range.

It's easy to look at this guy and think he has it all together (LMS), he's in the top 1% for his age in regards to physique and money, and in regards to status, he has a very big youtube following (Over Half a million). But he's severely addicted to porn, which has caused ED, self-esteem issues and issues for him connecting with women. This is something that is a real thing. Pornography warps your view on women(and sex) and makes you unable to connect with them on an emotional or even normal level. Because you get into the thought that women should act like they do in porn but that's not real life, it's a w wicket fanstay at best. Pornography has crippled men in the last 30-40 years and it's getting worse. I feel for him because I think a lot of men have been there. Some of us get out, there is light at the end of the tark tunnel of the abyss

I think porn addiction is real. I am amazed that this guy with good looks and enough money to buy a solid sports car at 25 would be a porn addict.

How's he not seducing at least average to cute range women regularly and getting strong erections with them?

Based on previous pics, your body type is what could use a lot of work. Start working out and hitting the gym. Easiest thing you can fix at this point.

He has demonstrated both mindset and physique issues.

I think you are correct that it would be easier to fix the physique issues vs. the mindset issues.

However, what if he were to fix physique and not mindset? What happens to the generic person then?

 

[Solomon]

He has demonstrated both mindset and physique issues.

I think you are correct that it would be easier to fix the physique issues vs. the mindset issues.

However, what if he were to fix physique and not mindset? What happens to the generic person then?

Porn for most men can become an obsessive addiction especially for young men. IF you look at his page, his physique is in the top 1% the guy has 6pack and is shredded. Guy has LMS(youtube channel is over 500K)but can't get his penis up to bang. Due to his porn addiction but also from watching the video he can't keep girls around. Due to his low-self esteem and lack of personality

I have not watched porn in over 5 years. This guy needs therapy to work on those issues. Gen-Z has access to porn like never before, with porn you don't even need money because there is so much of it for free. Some young men waste hours upon hours watching hardcore porn which is more addictive than herioin! and a lot of men are addicted. It can cause self-esteem issues and warp views when it comes to women. This in turn can make it harder for men to connect with women (not just physically through sex, but emotionally etc)

He needs to quit watching porn, go to extensive therapy, work out his low self-esteem issues among other things

 

[corrector]

@needimprovement250, there is a class action lawsuit against onlyfans now....maybe you can join it if you have strong feelings aboutit:

OnlyFans hit with class action from two men who say they weren’t talking to models

M. Brunner and J. Fry of Illinois say creators they subscribed to were employing agencies to “impersonate” models

www.independent.co.uk

Anyway....I'm ending OnlyFans subscriptions mainly until the Autumn here. Seeing if there is anything I can get from this in the interim (ie that last video that costs $ 5.00, etc....).

Also you should also be aware that some OnlyFans models have met a terrible end with these parties in Dubei:

OnlyFans Model, 20, Found After 10 Days In Dubai With Broken Spine And Limbs

A 20-year-old OnlyFans model who had been missing for 10 days was found severely injured and dumped on the side of the road in Dubai.

www.ndtv.com

Not all of this is glamour and gold. It's just a big world out there and it's neither one way or the other sometimes.

 

[SW15]

He needs to quit watching porn, go to extensive therapy, work out his low self-esteem issues among other things

I agree with this solution.

Gen-Z has access to porn like never before, with porn you don't even need money because there is so much of it for free. Some young men waste hours upon hours watching hardcore porn which is more addictive than herioin! and a lot of men are addicted. It can cause self-esteem issues and warp views when it comes to women. This in turn can make it harder for men to connect with women (not just physically through sex, but emotionally etc)

I disagree with you on Gen Z and the porn problem.

The porn problem that you mention was also an issue when the earliest members of Generation Y/Millennials were also in their teens/early 20s.

This problem goes back to the days when high speed internet access first became common somewhere between the late 1990s and mid-2000s.

I was a freshman in college in the 2001-2002 school year. The dorms at my university all had high speed internet in them at that point. It was common for males in my freshman year dorm to be watching free porn from the internet from various methods, either by finding free porn websites (pre tube era sites) or using a file sharing program like Kazaa to get free porn.

By the mid-2000s to late 2000s, there was even more free porn online. There were subscription services like Naughty America and Brazzers coming up and then the free porn tube websites like PornHub and others started.

This all happened long before Generation Z reached sexual maturity. This is how Generation Y/Millennials got hooked on free/low cost porn in early adulthood.

There have now been 2 full generations who have had extremely easy and inexpensive access to pornography.

It was more difficult for Generation X to have extremely easy and inexpensive access to pornography. In the 1980s-1990s, porn was becoming more accessible at home with VHS videotapes and then later DVDs. VHS tapes were more expensive to buy over time and you had to go to a porn shop to buy it. There were also Playboy/Penthouse/Hustler magazines then. They weren't ridiculously expensive, but it wasn't extremely or inexpensive to get porn. Gen Y/Millennials and Gen Z haven't had to do that.

I have not watched porn in over 5 years.

Porn for most men can become an obsessive addiction especially for young men. I

Congratulations! Not easy to do. I've been off of porn for around 10 years. My beta male married friends are impressed by that and I think some of them are not resorting to porn with wives who are now less interested in sex due to the passage of time in a monogamous relationship and children in the household.

For me, prior to age 30, I was interested in both sex and porn a lot. I had to always have one or the other. My testosterone and sex drive were super strong from around 14-29.

My sex drive has slowed somewhat since 35 but it is still in a good place. I'm still actively exercising. I'm still testing well on testosterone tests.

I agree that porn can also be mind warping as well. In most conventional porn, the porn star males have bigger penises than most of the male porn viewers. A male with even an average sized penis can feel inadequate watching porn stars with big penises plow women.

I think porn is more damaging for male body image than female body image. There are a variety of female body types in porn. Not all female porn stars have enormous breasts (either natural or from breast implants). More female porn stars will have either slender or fit/athletic body types, but even that's not always the case. That can have an impact on women, but I don't think their breast size is as big of an issue as males and penis size.

A 6.5 to 7 inch penis in porn would be a smaller penis. In real life, a guy with a 6.5 to 7 inch penis would be above average and impress a lot of women.

IF you look at his page, his physique is in the top 1% the guy has 6pack and is shredded. Guy has LMS(youtube channel is over 500K)but can't get his penis up to bang.

Having a 6 pack and shredded is good. He might have been inspired by seeing male porn stars with top level physiques.

Women enjoy having sex with men who are fit/athletic and have full/strong erections.

Being shredded and having an above average sized penis that gets strong erections is going to get women very interested and help with keeping them interested.

lack of personality

Lack of personality doesn't matter as much as lack of looks.

LMS matters than personality.

I've always thought looks and money were the most important seduction variables and that personality was less important.

Personality can help if good and can also hurt if not good.

If a guy who is 6'0"+, fit/athletic, and has good erections (at least average sized), I haven't tended to think that he would need much of a personality.

 

[Solomon]

Lack of personality doesn't matter as much as lack of looks.

LMS matters than personality.

I've always thought looks and money were the most important seduction variables and that personality was less important.

Personality can help if good and can also hurt if not good.

I haven't been a person who thinks a guy who is 6'0"+, fit/athletic, and has good erections (at least average sized) would need much of a personality.

Looks and Money can open doors, however, they will not keep you in the room!. A guy who’s good-looking or clearly has status might get attention and sex faster—but that only gets him in the room. This means that if he’s boring, insecure, or awkward, that attention fades fast(unable to retain women for long). Think of it like a movie trailer. Money and looks are the flashy preview but if the movie sucks, people walk out. There comes a point where even a good-looking guy wants to retain women for the long term instead of having to churn out new prospects every weekend at the bar trying to bang something new.

You think Looks and Money are the most important variables in seduction, sir you need to go back and read Pook. You likely think this because your personality is either boring, and you get girls based on your looks or you still heavily rely on social conditioning due to your biased experiences. For a guy who has been in the seduction community for a while @SW15 you still lack nuance on what sepreates a guy from being an Average seducer compared to a guy who is an elite seducer. When you step outside that programming and actually study people, learn presence, emotional nuance, how to make someone feel something—you realize real game is internal.

Let me tell you what Seduction IS​

Seduction has nothing to do with money. Seduction is about Confidence. Charisma. The way you make women feel. Your ability to elicit emotions and communicate what you're trying to convey to women. Most men struggle with this, especially men on the spectrum.That’s the heart of seduction. Do women feel seen, desired, safe and excited around you? Game over. That’s what really creates chemistry. Men tend to be more visual. Women? Emotional context matters more. How you carry yourself, your energy, your storytelling, your ambition—all of that plays into attraction. Money without presence? Looks without self-awareness? Meh.

If you want shallow pretty club bimbos or insufferable Instagram thots(nothing wrong with that they are fun in the sack), sure LMS is all you need.
Women who are feminine, nurturing, submissive, interesting, sexy, women whose company you enjoy not only when it comes to sex you are going to have to bring more nuance to that. ​

 

[SW15]

You think Looks and Money are the most important variables in seduction, sir you need to go back and read Pook. You likely think this because your personality is either boring, and you get girls based on your looks or you still heavily rely on social conditioning due to your biased experiences. For a guy who has been in the seduction community for a while @SW15 you still lack nuance on what sepreates a guy from being an Average seducer compared to a guy who is an elite seducer.

I have always acknowledged that looks, money, status, and personality were the factors involved in attraction and seduction.

Yes, it is true that I have tended to think that looks and money are most important.

I have never read much of Pook. Only bits and pieces.

It's possible that I have a boring personality or maybe even an average personality that doesn't distinguish me.

I don't excel in looks either. I am only 5'10". As a White man who mostly interacts with White women, I can tell you that 5'10" is not a height that plays well with White women. White women either take it for granted and think of it as meh or they think it is garbage as they seek 6'0"+.

With that height, my looks can only go so far. I have maintained a fitness routine over the years. I have had good facial aesthetics, usually had good haircuts, and have not experienced significant balding.

I have good but not very good/excellent looks. I'm a not below the top tier (aka the Chad tier) in looks.

In my time on SoSuave, one of the more surprising cases I have seen is @sangheilios . @sangheilios has some statistics that are top tier. He is 6'4", fit/muscular, and has an 8" penis based on comments made in the thread below. That's top tier in height and penis size. Yet he has mentioned struggling in terms of attraction and retention with women.

How many chicks have you slept with?

I don't understand these claims of having been with hundreds of women, how is that even possible? The only way I could see something like this ever being a reality is if you are a celebrity or are paying for sex regularly. For real world non paid for examples, you'd have to be dumpster diving...

www.sosuave.net

Looks and Money can open doors, however, they will not keep you in the room!. A guy who’s good-looking or clearly has status might get attention and sex faster—but that only gets him in the room. This means that if he’s boring, insecure, or awkward, that attention fades fast(unable to retain women for long). Think of it like a movie trailer. Money and looks are the flashy preview but if the movie sucks, people walk out. There comes a point where even a good-looking guy wants to retain women for the long term instead of having to churn out new prospects every weekend at the bar trying to bang something new.

Let me tell you what Seduction IS

Seduction has nothing to do with money. Seduction is about Confidence. Charisma. The way you make women feel. Your ability to elicit emotions and communicate what you're trying to convey to women. That’s the heart of seduction. Do women feel seen, desired, safe and excited around you? Game over.

This is more on the personality side.

Most men struggle with this, especially men on the spectrum.

A lot of men do struggle with the personality elements of seduction. It's true that both neurotypicals and neurodivergents (aka autism spectrum men) struggle with this. There are so many men now who are struggling to get laid on a regular basis. While spectrum men almost always struggle to get laid, more and more neurotypicals are struggling to get laid.

I am a neurotypical.

If you want shallow pretty club bimbos or insufferable Instagram thots(nothing wrong with that they are fun in the sack), sure LMS is all you need.

At times in my history in the mating environment, this has been the type of woman I have been seeking.

 

[corrector]

Break-up letters to a couple of onlyfans subscription: (Already sent and unsubscribed to the last remaining two women I'm subscribed to)

1st Break-up Letter:

I know I left a comment yesterday that sounded more open — and I meant it at the time. But after prayer and deeper reflection, I realize this isn't the right direction for me right now. I’m stepping away from this space for spiritual reasons. Wishing you all the best on your journey.

Other suggestions from chat GPT:

Hey — just a few final words before I go.
There’s something quietly radiant about you — a warmth in how you show up, even in passing frames.
It’s stirred something in me, something real —
And yet, my heart is being drawn in a different direction, one shaped by faith and purpose.


I can't walk beside you on this part of the path.
Still… that doesn’t undo the moment.
Doesn’t erase the beauty in what felt like a flicker of light.


Though I won’t bless the work you’re doing, I can still speak well over you —
May you be safe. May truth find you, and hold you gently.
May you feel what it means to be truly seen.


Take care.

The above was not sent to one person I partiuclar like since I already left a comment with one of her videos.

Breaking up with an OnlyFans subscription you got attached to in a parasocial way is not easy sometimes. This ensures there is some closure when making alignments to spiritual values.