Finally got the wakeup call I needed about OF, that site is toxic to men

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Until you fix your PIED issue, there's no point in trying to deal with the mating environment.
Yeah I agree. Its pointless until this issue is resolved because even if I did hit it off with a girl and things led to the bedroom, the whole connection would fall apart from failing to have sex due to PIED. I've heard it can take 3-6 months to reverse, so I'm gonna make use of that time by learning more about what I need to know in order to even pull women in the first place. I came across this video since posting this thread and this guy pretty much took the words out of my mouth. From how ripped he is, he could pull for a ONS very easily and probably get more than that without much difficulty either, but he has PIED too from a severe porn addiction that has led him to spend around $20K on OF. That and having PIED has really messed with him, and I can relate because realizing you have PIED definitely does mess with you and makes you feel like a broken man.

 

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From how ripped he is, he could pull for a ONS very easily and probably get more than that without much difficulty either, but he has PIED too from a severe porn addiction that has led him to spend around $20K on OF. That and having PIED has really messed with him, and I can relate because realizing you have PIED definitely does mess with you and makes you feel like a broken man.

If you have a true addiction to this stuff, then it is dangerous. We don't have that much money in the first place. He also looks like he's driving a nice car. He doesn't look like a broke pay-cheque to paycheque dude scrounging through his last dollars for a fiver like you are portraying.
 

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It's wild to me that some of these girls have the balls to publicly insult the fanbase that pays for their lifestyle...

Maybe there's a market that has a humiliation fetish or something, but if I had a fanbase that was subsidizing my entire life, I probably wouldn't be making fun of them for paying for it.
 

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It's wild to me that some of these girls have the balls to publicly insult the fanbase that pays for their lifestyle...

Maybe there's a market that has a humiliation fetish or something, but if I had a fanbase that was subsidizing my entire life, I probably wouldn't be making fun of them for paying for it.
There is allot of content on youtube showing these girls dont have anything sustainable in the long run. The real test is where are they going to end up 30 years from now? Their reputation in the corporate world is cratared, no true high value guy will take them seriously, and fast money and fast life only goes so far before the cracks start forming and things start to implode in itself. There is just allot of youtube vids showing that angle. Therefore, its fair to say dont take it too seriously.
 

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To indulge the OP, I just spent $ 48 on OnlyFans costs over the past month, bringing my total account balance to near $ 120. The between paycheque parts are very low. But, I can tell you the people I have subscribed to is not going to make statements of buying a home or living it up with that money. I'm more upset at the circumstances that I am in, where a payment of $ 48 would feel hard rather than feeling ripped off or wanting to curse someone who I paid the money too (which I don't feel that way).

The way I see it, even if I went with a cheap escort, it would still have cost $ 80 / hh, so that's a savings of $ 32 on what may have been a totally fleeting moment at best, whereas with OnlyFans you can take your time and look at the pictures/videos on there. The point is, when you are just fvcked financially, you can't afford nothing, no girlfriend, wife, or escort, or whatever. I know if I lost my job then my car would get repoed (while I"m almost finished paying the loan too) so I'm in a pretty crappy spot in life, on top of taking care of elderly folks who interrupt me frequently.

I've also spent near $ 120 in tithe payments (ie money going to ministries, spreading out the gospel). There is still more money spent on good purposes then indulgent ones. However, OnlyFans never promised to help me financially, I think that's more of God's department (ie yeah, the tithe thing) so at the end of the day, the buck falls with God, not with OnlyFans, which is there to distract when God is not coming through fast enough with what you are believing Him for.
 

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If you have a true addiction to this stuff, then it is dangerous. We don't have that much money in the first place. He also looks like he's driving a nice car. He doesn't look like a broke pay-cheque to paycheque dude scrounging through his last dollars for a fiver like you are portraying.
There is allot of content on youtube showing these girls dont have anything sustainable in the long run. The real test is where are they going to end up 30 years from now? Their reputation in the corporate world is cratared, no true high value guy will take them seriously, and fast money and fast life only goes so far before the cracks start forming and things start to implode in itself. There is just allot of youtube vids showing that angle. Therefore, its fair to say dont take it too seriously.
I agree. Unless these OF models are investing some of the money they’re making that will eventually lead to a significant return on investment, they’re gonna end up working at jobs like McDonald’s after OF since they’ll have little to no work experience and a big gap in their resumes. So unless they’re planning ahead, these women will be panicking when they realize their time on OF is over and they have no marketable skills for the workforce since they haven’t worked in years and its only a money maker when they’re young, they’ll age out of it as their current subscribers will move on to the younger new models on there.

I wasn’t comparing that guy’s financial situation to ours. He clearly has more money than either of us if he can blow $20K on OF and can afford a car that nice. I was highlighting what this addiction does to men and how much it messes with a guy when he realizes that he can only get hard with porn and not when having sex with women.
 

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To indulge the OP, I just spent $ 48 on OnlyFans costs over the past month, bringing my total account balance to near $ 120. The between paycheque parts are very low. But, I can tell you the people I have subscribed to is not going to make statements of buying a home or living it up with that money. I'm more upset at the circumstances that I am in, where a payment of $ 48 would feel hard rather than feeling ripped off or wanting to curse someone who I paid the money too (which I don't feel that way).

The way I see it, even if I went with a cheap escort, it would still have cost $ 80 / hh, so that's a savings of $ 32 on what may have been a totally fleeting moment at best, whereas with OnlyFans you can take your time and look at the pictures/videos on there. The point is, when you are just fvcked financially, you can't afford nothing, no girlfriend, wife, or escort, or whatever. I know if I lost my job then my car would get repoed (while I"m almost finished paying the loan too) so I'm in a pretty crappy spot in life, on top of taking care of elderly folks who interrupt me frequently.

I've also spent near $ 120 in tithe payments (ie money going to ministries, spreading out the gospel). There is still more money spent on good purposes then indulgent ones. However, OnlyFans never promised to help me financially, I think that's more of God's department (ie yeah, the tithe thing) so at the end of the day, the buck falls with God, not with OnlyFans, which is there to distract when God is not coming through fast enough with what you are believing Him for.
That actually isn’t too bad. I remember 3 years ago I spent $120 on a 1 hour private cam show with a young couple on one of the cam sites. Becoming unemployed right after I did this prevented me from becoming addicted to these private cam shows and costing me even more money. My time unemployed allowed me to think clearly and back off from buying more cam shows even after I started working again. One thing I noticed about having PIED is that its made me become pretty obsessed with other people’s sex lives since I felt so broken and sexually incapable from it in addition to just lacking confidence with women in the first place, I started to believe that living vicariously through other people’s sex lives is the best I can ever do. Cam shows had that much addictive potential for me because I could have a couple all to myself and they would do pretty much whatever position or sex act I asked for. Over time I realized that I should strive to have a sex life of my own and that wanting to live vicariously through the sex lives of others is pathetic and creepy.

That’s good you’re spending more on good purposes like tithe payments too. I’m gonna spend money that would’ve otherwise gone towards OF or cam shows to seek outside help and get me past the issues I have that are holding me back. I am fu*ked financially too since right now I’m only getting to work 8 hrs a week (work is about to start getting busier though) and I also decided to go back to school to get a certification for a career and hopefully I will be finished with school by sometime next year and then my financial situation will get better after I have a career level income. But yeah, right now the lack of free time and finances make it hard for me to date too.
 

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Some wicked affirmations suggested by chat-gpt if you are having self-esteem issues around the idea of using escorts and are picturing this about yourself.
  • I am deserving of pleasure and connection on my own terms.
  • I have the power to make choices that align with my needs and desires.
  • My worth is not defined by the opinions of others.
  • I embrace my sexuality without guilt or shame.
  • I am in control of my decisions and the experiences I choose.
  • My past experiences do not dictate my present choices.
  • I have the right to explore and satisfy my desires in a safe and respectful way.
  • I am worthy of respectful interactions, regardless of the context.
  • Visiting an escort is a personal choice, and I approach it with confidence and respect for myself and others.
  • I am at peace with my choices and trust that I am doing what feels right for me.

These affirmations are designed to help you cultivate a healthy mindset and boost your confidence, whether you're navigating decisions regarding escorts or other personal choices. It’s key to frame these thoughts in a way that maintains your sense of autonomy and respect for yourself and others. Keep in mind that confidence often comes from understanding your choices and feeling aligned with your values, which might help in normalizing the idea in a way that feels empowering.

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You said:
how often do I need to say the above affirmations in order to feel good about visiting an escort, if I chose to do so?

ChatGPT said:
The frequency with which you repeat affirmations depends on your personal journey and how deeply you're seeking to reframe your mindset. Affirmations are most effective when they are consistently practiced and integrated into your daily routine. Here's a general guideline for how to use them to help feel good about your decision:
  1. Daily Practice: Ideally, say your affirmations every day. This helps you create a consistent and positive mental framework. It can be first thing in the morning, right before bed, or during moments when you feel doubt or uncertainty. The more often you repeat them, the more they can influence your mindset.
  2. At Key Moments: In addition to daily repetition, use the affirmations when you feel particularly nervous or unsure about your decision. For example, if you’re considering visiting an escort, take a few moments to repeat these affirmations to ground yourself and reaffirm your autonomy and confidence.
  3. When You Feel Guilt or Shame: If you experience negative emotions like guilt or shame around your choice, go back to the affirmations. Acknowledge the emotions without judgment, but remind yourself that you are allowed to make decisions that are right for you, in your own time and space.
  4. During Reflection: Take time at the end of each week or month to reflect on how your affirmations have influenced your mindset. Have they helped boost your confidence or shift your perspective? If so, continue the practice. If not, tweak the affirmations or add new ones that might address any new areas of concern.
  5. Commitment to the Process: Don't expect instant results. Building confidence and self-acceptance is a gradual process. Be patient with yourself and allow the affirmations to work over time.
Ultimately, consistency is key. The more you practice, the more natural it will feel, and the more likely it is that your mindset will shift to one that feels empowered and aligned with your values when it comes to making decisions about visits to an escort.

But again, I don't visit escorts, (only for religious/spiritual alignment issues) but the whole discussion with AI is still interesting.
Stop letting chatgpt tell you what to think. It's only intelligent in the sense of telling you what you want to hear, in order to keep you engaged.

Self-affirmation has always been loser behavior.

Rather than wallow in self pity, it would be much more productive to identify what draws you to these behaviors in the first place.
 

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Yeah I agree. Its pointless until this issue is resolved because even if I did hit it off with a girl and things led to the bedroom, the whole connection would fall apart from failing to have sex due to PIED. I've heard it can take 3-6 months to reverse, so I'm gonna make use of that time by learning more about what I need to know in order to even pull women in the first place. I came across this video since posting this thread and this guy pretty much took the words out of my mouth. From how ripped he is, he could pull for a ONS very easily and probably get more than that without much difficulty either, but he has PIED too from a severe porn addiction that has led him to spend around $20K on OF. That and having PIED has really messed with him, and I can relate because realizing you have PIED definitely does mess with you and makes you feel like a broken man.

Just watch the video. It's easy to look at this guy and think he has it all together (LMS), he's in the top 1% for his age in regards to physique and money, and in regards to status, he has a very big youtube following (Over Half a million). But he's severely addicted to porn, which has caused ED, self-esteem issues and issues for him connecting with women. This is something that is a real thing. Pornography warps your view on women(and sex) and makes you unable to connect with them on an emotional or even normal level. Because you get into the thought that women should act like they do in porn but that's not real life, it's a w wicket fanstay at best. Pornography has crippled men in the last 30-40 years and it's getting worse. I feel for him because I think a lot of men have been there. Some of us get out, there is light at the end of the tark tunnel of the abyss
 
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