Females recognizing/responding to AFC behavior: nature or nurture?

[AlNess]

I came across a thread in the Archives in which people discussed their biggest AFC move. After reading a few of those tales, I felt compelled to share in that thread what I still think is my biggest AFC move of all time, which took place when I was a high school senior way back in 1990.

The girl in that situation was a mere 14 years old at the time (I was then 17), and the more I recalled the events of that massive AFC disaster while detailing my post, the more I wondered whether females are mostly biologically hardwired to sense AFC behavior and also get turned off by it, or if their noticing and negatively responding to AFC behavior is a largely a result of social conditioning. After all, we've all read about how social conditioning has played a big role in AFC behavior in men. But in the case of the girl I discussed, just how much could a girl have learned about male AFC traits from others by such a young age?

Even though the question was inspired by a long-gone high school story from 21 years ago, I thought I'd present it to the Mature Man forum for some wise insight. Now that I'm in my late '30s and have been aware about AFCdom for a number of years, I sometimes tend to reflect (but not dwell) on past AFCdom, and wonder if this particular high school event was a "defining" moment for me as an AFC. Even though I am very happy with my wife and how my life is now, I sometimes wonder if my late teens and all of my 20s would've turned out different from how they actually turned out had i just done a few things differently in h.s.

 

[Strelok]

Its not a matter of females only, people when looking for a leader (women are made to be led) look for balls not niceness and the afc is the last thing we can put close to the balls concept.

Any human put in front of an old horse and a strong one will chose the strong one, there are not such things as maternal instinct that drive a woman to a weak men to protect him its bvllsh1t.

What we see here is women following what nature wants from them while at the same time we're brainwashed in order to have us more submissive, a "free man" doesnt take crap from authorities or government while a "free woman" is simply not a threat to anybody so there is no reason to change her.
The most dangerous thing to the status quo is an ambitious man who wants his right to be respected and doesnt have any problem to seek the conflict if it needs,
this is exactly the opposite of what an afc is.

At first there was religion to keep the masses in check now that religion doesnt work anymore in the western world it needs some cultural direction.
In fact you'll see there are no afcs among the ruling class.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I would say it's definitely hard-wired. Truth be told, whether a woman is 14 or 77, an HB9 or an HB2 -- some of the very same principles apply.

You can be a wuss-ball to a woman of any age, if your AFC wreaks enough.

Or, you can be the type women (and men) of all ages admire and look up to. [this is what we need to be].

 

[Burroughs]

Why wouldn't a woman want an AFC...the AFC man is weak, gives up his money easily and is generally spineless.

A perfect open piggy bank for a woman and her lifestyle.

The woman will go for the handsome AFC over the normal potential worldbeater any day of the week.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

A handsome AFC can get a woman for awhile...but long enough time she starts to dominate him and steadily lose respect for him. It's a subtle sort of maneuver and she may not even know she's doing it.

AFC men are often respectable and honorable, committed, logical and place others before themselves.

THESE ARE GOOD QUALITIES. But they must be balanced with WOMEN because women essentially will try and weaken you subconsciously...please do not abandon good-human-spirited characteristics...but instead, don't let a woman walk over you! We often tolerate a woman walking on us because we're in "love" and she's "the one" and we don't think we can get any better. I have countless friends in relationships where women are walking on them and they tolerate it because of their familiarity with the relationship, the sex they receive or just the mere fear of being alone again.

Not everything about an AFC personality is incompatible with being good with women!

I just know now from experience, if she starts trying to control you, belittle you, talk down to you, feels "confused", goes hot and cold -- just move the hell on!

Somewhere on this forum or some other material I've read is: Think of her as 2nd in Command -- she's your assistant, your secretary, whatever -- she's not driving the ship. She is there to support you driving the ship and assist in the driving of the ship. If she's trying to meddle with upper-management and take control, she oughta be released and find a new hire.

 

[sodbuster]

Neither one.... easiest explanation is we want what we can't have,not what we can have

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Bhudda,^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ very good post mate.

 

[typical]

Think of her as 2nd in Command -- she's your assistant, your secretary, whatever -- she's not driving the ship. She is there to support you driving the ship and assist in the driving of the ship. If she's trying to meddle with upper-management and take control, she oughta be released and find a new hire.

Now that is great relationship advice in a nutshell brillient