Fat dudes/ugly guys DON'T get attractive women

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Women are attracted to charisma. They are not attracted to looks, intelligence or any other measuring stick. It is is charisma and nothing but. The reason working out etc. is good advice is because it boosts your own self confidence, increasing your charisma.
 
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Duffdog said:
Its a good bet that hot girls know darn well that the only reason anyone talks to them is because they are hot. They aren't stupid...
I wouldn't be too sure about that one.
 
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Senor Juan said:
Women are attracted to charisma. They are not attracted to looks, intelligence or any other measuring stick. It is is charisma and nothing but. The reason working out etc. is good advice is because it boosts your own self confidence, increasing your charisma.
I think most women want the complete package in man in terms of intelligence, social status, large penis, tight body etc. Though I suppose intelligence ranks higher to some women than others ect - ect.
 

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No, women do not have a laundry list of things they want...They are attracted or they aren't. Simple as that.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Energizer said:
I wouldn't be too sure about that one.
I don't understand what you are saying. Please explain. I don't think that a woman who will spend all her money looking better than the other loser girls around her doesn't know what she is doing and isn't aware of how attractive she is.

If you have ever talked to a girl about the looks of other girls, they go right for the physical measurements of the other chics-- things you can't disguise with clothes: "fat thighs, muffin top, fat arms, big nose, etc..." I'm curious as to why you think that they don't know these things?
 

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Close enough. I hope it's a LS 460 L! Leather so soft and you got a lot of leg room if you're tall like me. Keep the leather cleaner nearby! LOL

Regardless, owning a Lexus in a woman's eye means you got money and are super trendy. BTW I learned that from you. I've updated that list with cars you missed and maybe you can help me clean it up. If you want, I'll PM it to you.

I can't wait to sell my 05 Pontiac Grand Am and get a CLS/ CL Mercedes. Cannot get Infiniti or Volvo or Saab at all, as they don't make a good enough statement for women.
Please don't buy a volvo unless you are married with at least 2 kids and a dog. But ya, PM that list to me. I would love to see it.
 

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Duffdog she is not looking at your six pack, your full head of hair, or tipex smile.

she is looking at your behaviour ;)

recognise this by taking your current 8 or 9 look and dumb it down to a 5 or 6 and go out for a few weeks, you will notice that the first few nights will SUCK! you will be ****, but soon enough as you get used to your new look you will get a great night and pull ass.

what a girl says and what she actually responds to are two completely different things. I want a guy that looks like prince charming and buys me flowers, yet the scrubby bald, fat bouncer takes her home that night. It's his behaviour ;)

there are many un-attractive, non rich guys that have really hot girlfriends
 

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kingy said:
Duffdog she is not looking at your six pack, your full head of hair, or tipex smile.

she is looking at your behaviour ;)

recognise this by taking your current 8 or 9 look and dumb it down to a 5 or 6 and go out for a few weeks, you will notice that the first few nights will SUCK! you will be ****, but soon enough as you get used to your new look you will get a great night and pull ass.

what a girl says and what she actually responds to are two completely different things. I want a guy that looks like prince charming and buys me flowers, yet the scrubby bald, fat bouncer takes her home that night. It's his behaviour ;)

there are many un-attractive, non rich guys that have really hot girlfriends
I think you are wrong and full of crap.

The problem with your hypothesis is that an attractive male who is a 9 can't ever become a 5. The girls only care about things which are genetically superior to other males, not things which can be changed. For instance, how would I change the fact that I am 6'2"? or that I wiegh 230 and look athletic? Or my facial appearance? The answer is, you can't change those things as those are the things which really matter.

The things that are easy to change make no difference. Why do you think that males only want thin girls? Because it is difficult to be thin, but easy to be fat. Same story with females, they want a 6'5" millionaire doctor with a huge cack who bows to their every whim. But that person does not exist, so they start by taking one of those requirements away. Then taking two away, then finally settling on what she can get from her list of requirements. It is the same thing with men. We give a f*ck what a girls "personality" is like because males are programmed to seek out the females with the best genes first, then maybe if there is time we consider her personality and all that other crap that doesn't really matter.

So yeah, in answer to your assertion-- average guys do get hotties, but they end up f*cking guys like me on the side because that avg guy is not anything she really wanted anyways. He is just someone she uses to feel good about herself temporarily until she can find the bigger, better deal.
 
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Duffdog said:
I don't understand what you are saying. Please explain. I don't think that a woman who will spend all her money looking better than the other loser girls around her doesn't know what she is doing and isn't aware of how attractive she is.

If you have ever talked to a girl about the looks of other girls, they go right for the physical measurements of the other chics-- things you can't disguise with clothes: "fat thighs, muffin top, fat arms, big nose, etc..." I'm curious as to why you think that they don't know these things?
What I implied was that I have met plenty of hot women who are rather stupid.
 

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u guys can argue if you want...but im tellin you from experience....i dont know how many of u are fat, but i am, and i still get with decently hot looking girls....im not gonna lie and be like im banging HB10s, but these are goodlookin chicks....its all confidence and swagger plus im a goodlookin son of a b!tch (not really but i act like it anyways)

dont get me wrong, im not sayin its ok to be unhealthy, **** i work out 4 times a week every week, im just sayin, stop bein a bunch of downers....yall are depressing as fcck
 

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Soprano said:
u guys can argue if you want...but im tellin you from experience....i dont know how many of u are fat, but i am, and i still get with decently hot looking girls....im not gonna lie and be like im banging HB10s, but these are goodlookin chicks....its all confidence and swagger plus im a goodlookin son of a b!tch (not really but i act like it anyways)

dont get me wrong, im not sayin its ok to be unhealthy, **** i work out 4 times a week every week, im just sayin, stop bein a bunch of downers....yall are depressing as fcck
Now you gotta show sum pics!
 

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Soprano said:
u guys can argue if you want...but im tellin you from experience....i dont know how many of u are fat, but i am, and i still get with decently hot looking girls....im not gonna lie and be like im banging HB10s, but these are goodlookin chicks....its all confidence and swagger plus im a goodlookin son of a b!tch (not really but i act like it anyways)

dont get me wrong, im not sayin its ok to be unhealthy, **** i work out 4 times a week every week, im just sayin, stop bein a bunch of downers....yall are depressing as fcck
We are not trying to be downers. I honestly hope that guys who are interested in getting hot girls will wake the fvck up and decide that they want to be the guys that these girls want!! Tips, tricks and "confidence" are no match for 6 pack abs and a BMW. I always wonder what "confidence" gets you when you are a total chump with no life... what exactly do you have confidence in? The fact that you can talk to a girl? Super-- you are an A+ winner now!

I say screw that--become the guy that all the other guys are jealous of because you don't have to try. Not to be a d1ck, but I get off on just standing somewhere by myself and having girls walk up to me and introduce themselves. Sure, I could approach all day long, but it honestly feels better be able to stand in a club and ask your friend: "which girl did you want?" and take her away from some chumps doing magic tricks and open the door to your car for her at the end of the night and not be embarrassed. It feels soooo good to have some hottie say: "Damn! nice ride" and you just reply "Eh, its just a car"... knowing that, yes, she really is impressed and her attraction just skyrocketed.

There is so much more to life if you are not an average guy. In fact, I bet that as soon as Nismo-4 gets an MBZ, we won't ever hear from him again because he will be nailing too many girls to care about websites anymore. To me, that is the most positive message anyone can take from the things I write. I want people to decide that they don't want to be average anymore and stand above the rest of the males in at least one dimension, making themselves more valuable in the eyes of the girls they "can't seem to keep"
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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kingy said:
duffdog please stop giving out advice, you are deluding the minds of people who can actually improve.
Said the PUA guru with his ever-present link to his technique website.

Call me a cynic, but it appears to me that out of shape guys thinking they'd attract women by developing a better physique - as opposed to paying top dollar to get your 'secret knowledge' from a seminar - wouldn't exactly be in your best commercial interests.

Caveat Emptor.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Said the PUA guru with his ever-present link to his technique website.

Call me a cynic, but it appears to me that out of shape guys thinking they'd attract women by developing a better physique - as opposed to paying top dollar to get your 'secret knowledge' from a seminar - wouldn't exactly be in your best commercial interests.

Caveat Emptor.
LOL! Top dollar is right. 447 pounds for one session. Thats 733USD!!! I would tell anybody anything they wanted to hear for 700 bucks. I don't blame you Kingy, I would get mad at anyone who tried to ruin my scam too...

EDIT: To anyone who watched kingy's videos, keep in mind that video editing still applies to amateur footage as well. What you don't see are the 95% of times that everything this guy did failed, you only see the 5% of successes. Even then, an astute person would note that it is entirely possible that the girls in the videos are planted. If I was charging an absurd amount of money to people for PUA classes, I could totally afford to pay strippers/models/escorts/college girls to do anything I wanted on film. Some of them might even do it for free because it would be fun.
 

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that was taken in 2 hours by my mate joe, you see every set that I approached in that time. No word of a lie.

i find it flattering that you think the video is of such quality to say the girls were planted.... if you arent able to run up to a girl and get a number 95% of the time then your game is wack. If you arent able to get an instant makeout or a giggly push away in a nightclub 95% of the time then your game is wack.

im not condeming working out or making the best of what you've got, do it for you! I'm saying that you dont need to have a six pack, look like brad pitt or have any sort of money to pull HOTTIES consistantly.

If you actually believe your lexus gets your laid then why are u even here? how about teaching guys how to improve their looks or get a six pack, that would have some value in it..... eagerly awaiting that post.
 

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kingy said:
that was taken in 2 hours by my mate joe, you see every set that I approached in that time. No word of a lie.

i find it flattering that you think the video is of such quality to say the girls were planted.... if you arent able to run up to a girl and get a number 95% of the time then your game is wack. If you arent able to get an instant makeout or a giggly push away in a nightclub 95% of the time then your game is wack.

im not condeming working out or making the best of what you've got, do it for you! I'm saying that you dont need to have a six pack, look like brad pitt or have any sort of money to pull HOTTIES consistantly.

If you actually believe your lexus gets your laid then why are u even here? how about teaching guys how to improve their looks or get a six pack, that would have some value in it..... eagerly awaiting that post.
I didn't say that the girls were planted. I said that you used "creative editing" to hide the negatives while only revealing the positives. I like that you twisted the post into me somehow saying that I thought your videos were "quality"...on the contrary, they are garbage. Any loser can run in front of a female and get her to talk to him. We have people on college campuses in the US that do the same thing, its called Multi Level Marketing. I could do everything you did in all those videos with absolutely no effort whatsoever. Does it matter? NO!! It doesn't make any difference what happens in a video to another guy-- just what do you think will happen to the little guy with nothing going on in his life? Do you honestly think that he will bag a hottie after your "miracle PUA program"?

1. Anything that you type MUST serve to increase your profitability, there is no chance in hell that you would ever admit to anything which decreases interest in people spending money on your program. Telling guys to "get a life" and stop being a chump won't net you any profits, so you can't possibly say that, can you?

2. "A giggly push away", do you have any idea how gay that sounds? Or better yet, I would like to see you try that in a high profile club in the US, let me know how many times you had to go to the dentist to have your teeth replaced.

3. Finally, WHAT THE F$CK IS WRONG WITH BEING DESIRED?!?!?! Why is it that guys feel that they need to do ANY approaching at all. How about you get some status, some friends, some life and let it come to you naturally. What your program (and all others like it) propose is to shortcut the system. You are advocating that guys skip the whole part about being successful and desired and go right to using the attitude and language that those guys have. That is why ****y and funny works, because guys who have something to be ****y about are usually ****y. Guys who do not...aren't! That's the natural way of things. Being ****y when you are just a little loser b1tch gets you beat up, not laid.

You asked why I am here. Sometimes I get bored and need something to do. I already know why you are here.
 
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