Facing REALITY. LOOKS, REALITY, and its BETTER to chase SEVENS

[blayde]

There's a certain adventurous i like here in that helping people over basic fears is a good thing.

Then again, there's a ridiculous fantasy world here too. Isnt the point of this REALITY???

SO I CONCLUDE:
1. Why do average guys want to chase only HOTTIES? What is deficient in their character/ego that they cant date someone who looks more ore less like they do? And be proud of that?

2. WHY CHASE the top ten percent? WHy set yourself up for rejection.....

3. Why not accept the fact that youre not going to land a model, and that its BEST IF YOU DONT ANYWAY. Its too complicated, too much work, and unrealistic.

4. If youre asking HER not to base decisions on looks, then why dont you do the same?

5. Admit that SEVENS, SIXES and FIVES are better PEOPLE than tens. Thats a fact. They work harder. Are less self centered.

6. SO instead of using this forum as some sort of "cheat test" on how to beat the odds, why not be a man and admit your limitations?

 

[the_gunslinger]

or, why not be a man and shatter your limits? My grandad was a politician and a great man. he brought about great change in Eire and he didnt think "I cant do this, i see my limits", he didnt just break his limits, he obliterated them and pi$$ed all over the peices

In the same way, there is no rule written anywhere that says ugly guys like me cant and wont get 9s and 10s. I refuse to believe that, in a forum that tells us we can become better people and achieve what we want, people can be so negative and down on people.

 

[DEKKA]

why set yourself up for rejection?

ill tell you why. to stop worrying about it thats why. i dont care how ugly you are you need to get the fvck over the fear of rejection and start loving it.

i love rejection. it is my only god.

 

[Dimebag_Darrell]

The more you die, the stronger, and more knowledgeble you become you stupid f*ck.

 

[grungeman]

Why do you want our attention?

 

[Sting]

I actually agree with Blayde on this one. It’s not in your best interest to delude yourself into thinking that you can land 9s and 10s, when the reality is that you can’t. The higher your perceived value (e.g., good looks or money to burn) the better your chances are of landing 9s and 10s. Therefore, it makes sense for a man who is getting rejected time and time again by 9s and 10s to stop trying to land them until the odds of doing so are more in his favor. Accordingly, a man whose perceived value is only a 7 would be better off focusing his efforts on raising his perceived value, rather than waste his time on women who are (for the time being) out of his league.

 

[OpenMind]

You will land whatever woman you set your mind on landing... if it is a 10 then you will get a 10..a 7 then a 7.. this is about preference.. no one here on this forum can tell another man what type of woman he can or should go for. If you are willing to do whatever it takes to land a 10 and you arent the best looking guy more fvcking power to ya! you might not do it overnight but who fvcking cares if some other guys think that you are wasting your time? We are all men here... we go after what we please and we take what we want.. and if at some point in time you think the 10s are too much work you tone it down to a 9 or 8.. or maybe just a 7.. not because some sosuave guy posted that he thinks that 6s or 7s are the way to go.. thats his preference.. not mine..

 

[hardwork]

Originally posted by Sting
I actually agree with Blayde on this one. It’s not in your best interest to delude yourself into thinking that you can land 9s and 10s, when the reality is that you can’t. The higher your perceived value (e.g., good looks or money to burn) the better your chances are of landing 9s and 10s. Therefore, it makes sense for a man who is getting rejected time and time again by 9s and 10s to stop trying to land them until the odds of doing so are more in his favor. Accordingly, a man whose perceived value is only a 7 would be better off focusing his efforts on raising his perceived value, rather than waste his time on women who are (for the time being) out of his league.

It's because he never changes that this guy crashes and burns! It's not because of "leagues"! It's because you can "approach" women by punching them in the head and stabbing them with a pen while verbally accosting them over and over again, and not get any "hits" because your actions are too souring.

Take out the stabbing, say, and your success rate might jump a little. Take out the stabbing, but add in throwing mud and you might lose some of that gain. Who knows? The trick is to keep trying and keep changing. Keep what works, work on what doesn't!

It's only when you change your actions that your results change.

 

[blayde]

Youre missing the point

YES, you CAN date tens. But youre missing the point.

Dating tens is a WASTE OF TIME.

See my newest post.

 

[jakethasnake]

Blayde, I don't think that every single '10' lacks a personality and humanity, but the overwhelming majority of them do. I'm talking at least 95% of them. They are spoiled and definately get by on their looks. If a man is looking for a quality woman then Blayde is 100% right - a '10' in looks is rarely a champion. The highest I would ever go for in an LTR is an 8-8.5 with a great personality.

 

[DJ_Dork]

blayde is on to something here. It seems that the higher the looks rating goes for girls - the lower their intelligence/conversationable abilities. I would say 7-8 girls would be the most intellectual/physically stimulating girls you can have - this would be the MAX range. Higher looks rating = dumber girl.. lower looks rating = smarter/resourceful but not as pretty. 9-10 girls are very hard to maintain.. you have to be rich/handsome.

 

[Trogdawg]

I've dated 10's and I've dated the 'average' 7's. I prefer the 7's because if you think about it we are all going to be ugly in 30+ years. I ask a 10 out it's "sure okay" I ask a 7 out and she's like "that'd be awesome" and they get all happy and flirtatious. You can feel that they actually want to get to know you. Sometimes I wish you could ally with every other guy these beautiful women will see so that you can all treat them like shiat. Knock them off their pedastel and make them work for a living.

 

[Ice Cold]

5. Admit that SEVENS, SIXES and FIVES are better PEOPLE than tens. Thats a fact. They work harder. Are less self centered.

I disagree. They only appear self centered to you, cause you don't know how to attract them yet.

2. WHY CHASE the top ten percent? WHy set yourself up for rejection.....

Why? Because I have an BIG ego and I know I deserve top 1%. I know I'm a man of quality.

Anyways - your post is a bunch of loser excuses. You're scared sh1tless of rejection and won't play the game.

LOSER

 

[jakethasnake]

A good man also knows humilty. I guess that makes you a loser too, Ice Cold.


All this ultra-****y business was first endorsed on this site because it was assumed that most of the men visiting this site for advice were TOTALLY spineless wimps with no balls. But that was a misguided assumption - all kinds of men visit this site, including ones with fairly healthy to good self-esteem. Those guys unfortunately internalized the message intended for the wimps, and became ultra-****y scumbags with no respect for anything.


I'm not pointing fingers at any individual, but I'm getting sick of (at best) slightly above average Joes screaming about how they deserve the world. Reality check - YOU DIDN'T EARN SHYT. Most of ya'll are still in your focking 20s for god's sake. You work in retail. You are in junior level management at best. You are still nobodys in this world - and you think you "deserve" the best? I think not. LOL! Some people crack me up here.


I WILL SAY THIS FOR A FACT - very few of us actually deserve the best looking and the most intelligent women. Getting A woman is a right that belongs to every man, but getting the BEST WOMEN is a right that belongs to the worthy (the best looking, the strongest, the smartest, the richest, the most influential, etc.). Look around you - there is plenty of evidence for that statement. So slap yourselves in the face some of you, and come back to reality.


By the way, that is not to say that a man will always be stuck in the 'nobody' category forever. The great thing about America is that social mobility is very possible. Work hard, make sacrifices, and you will reach that point.

 

[Thoroughbred]

The bad thing about not having the looks but having the money is that a guy might attract a lot of golddiggers. But, really for the most part that is the only way these guys will get girls. Another thing I've seen from observation is, a lot of golddiggers are not great looking. A lot of them are average.

As far as 9 and 10s not having personality and what not, I don't believe that. If anyone says that it is because these girls don't like them. Looks doesn't have to do with intelligence in every case.

A lot of women are going around thinking they are 10s just because they have pu$$y between their legs. And the best of them are 6 or 7's at best. They don't show much intelligence or 'personality.' So women are delusional as well.

 

[Trogdawg]

I think women are more delusional.

"I'm going to get married and have a big house and he's going to work and I'm not."- woman

"Dream on hooker." -Rodney Carrington

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by jakethasnake
A good man also knows humilty. I guess that makes you a loser too, Ice Cold.

I disagree. Humility is for betas who fear being beat up by the alpha.

All this ultra-****y business was first endorsed on this site because it was assumed that most of the men visiting this site for advice were TOTALLY spineless wimps with no balls. But that was a misguided assumption - all kinds of men visit this site, including ones with fairly healthy to good self-esteem. Those guys unfortunately internalized the message intended for the wimps, and became ultra-****y scumbags with no respect for anything.

You're confusing ambition with C&F.

I'm not pointing fingers at any individual, but I'm getting sick of (at best) slightly above average Joes screaming about how they deserve the world. Reality check - YOU DIDN'T EARN SHYT. Most of ya'll are still in your focking 20s for god's sake. You work in retail. You are in junior level management at best. You are still nobodys in this world - and you think you "deserve" the best? I think not. LOL! Some people crack me up here.

I'm not even in my twenties. But I think I deserve a couple of HB9 to like me, I even HAVE a couple that like me. It's not a friggin achievement to get a beautiful girl into you.

Anyways - if you're ever in toronto, PM me. You'll change your opinion.

Cheers

 

[TheInfamousCBear]

Originally posted by jakethasnake

All this ultra-****y business was first endorsed on this site because it was assumed that most of the men visiting this site for advice were TOTALLY spineless wimps with no balls. But that was a misguided assumption - all kinds of men visit this site, including ones with fairly healthy to good self-esteem. Those guys unfortunately internalized the message intended for the wimps, and became ultra-****y scumbags with no respect for anything.

This is on point...Too many dudes on here think that if they become a "DJ" , that they can get every and any woman they put their sights on...Come on, you cant even get along with every single person in the world. What makes people think they can get any girl they want?...Sh1t, im not even attracted to most women out there past looks, so Im not even gonna waste time with most of them...

 

[Ice Cold]

Who the hell here says that he can get ANY girl he wants?

It's usually unrealistic to try to get ANY particular girl, even a 5.

What I'm saying is that with a certain amount of effort you CAN get a 9.5+

I am not saying you'll get a particular 9.5+, just saying you'll get something 9.5+

 

[thesynergist]

I'm here to develop my DJ Skills. These skills, much practice/trial and error, and personal development will help me accomplish my goal: Success with women. I am not here to land a 6 or a 7 (though they'll do just fine right now). I am here to land a TEN. WITH PERSONALITY. That is my goal, and difficult as it may seem right now, it is NOT UNATAINABLE if i work hard and actually better myself in this life, change the things holding me back. I see no problem with honing skills on hb6's and 7's, but all that effort and time just to stop there?

What's the point of that? I can't believe anyone here, actively working on this thing, would have their sites set on anything but a TEN. I think saying 6's and 7's are usually better people, or that 10's are a waste of time, is just an excuse not to try for the top spot, the holy grail, the TEN who's chasing YOU.

I

WANT

A

TEN.....