Everything Bad is Good, and All You've Learned is Wrong

[Jariel]

Oh and kudos for the entire post. It sounds like you've reached the same realisations I have, and this is why I give you my respect - because you clearly know what you're talking about!

All the kids ripping into the original poster are just freshly brainwashed products of the seduction gurus. They'll learn eventually.

 

[d9930380]

I agree, girls like parts of the nice-guy persona, they just don't respect him. They like it when you're all sweet and nice, especially when you mean it. Then it just comes naturally and girls like that.

 

[HeartThrob]

Then why are over a third of the posters here virgins, and another third can't get laid more than once every six months? (Source: How many did you DO in 2005). Granted, it's not a problem if it's a choice, but by being here they're indictating they want to get laid more.

Look confidence is great, but reliance on these techniques does not give you confidence. It gives you confidence in the techniques. If anything is getting these guys laid, it's the fact that they are out there talking to girls and learning what to do and not to do. The longer you're out talking to REAL girls and actually having sex (as opposed to just talking about it here), the more you'll realize that these techniques can do as much damage as help unless you're already experienced enough to know when to use them and when not to. And when you reach that point, you don't need them anyway.

It's not the techniques... the techniques work fine. I'm speaking about Mystery Method for the most part because I believe it encompasses all of the outer game. Maybe not down to every exact detail, but it gives a linear framework that works. Inner game however is something that can't be taught. It can be eluded to and people can tell there story of how they got to where they are; but all in all it is a personal journey and sorry to say most won't make it. It's not a bad thing, it's a good thing.

The problem with the mass majority of people on these boards is that people don't go out. They read too much into everything. Continuing to scrape for the next valuable piece of information that will magically make them a ladies man. JUST GO OUT! JUMP INTO THE DEEP END AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! It's like driving a car - you can read about it but until you've actually driven it over 100 times (more for some) you aren't going to really have a great feel for it.

And ya know what, it's genetic to feel scared when approaching a really hot woman... it's never going to end, so just do it and learn to control it. So go out, tonight! Face your fears and gain experience!

You will find to appreciate women for what they are. You can give them compliments, you should give them compliments if you want too. But, be socially savvy enough to know when to give them, and when not too. Does the hottest girl in the club who's had every guy drooling over her want to be told she's pretty? Umm... yea so she can get you to supplicate to her frame and jump through her hoops. That's where the technique and rules lie - so just get out there and actually see it in action. No point in wasting time on here, go NOW! =)

Good post BrotherAP.

 

[izza]

It's not the techniques... the techniques work fine. I'm speaking about Mystery Method for the most part because I believe it encompasses all of the outer game. Maybe not down to every exact detail, but it gives a linear framework that works.

The problem with tips is that they're only great in one of two distinct cases: 1.) if you already do them but didn't know it. You're a natural just learning a name. Then you go out and get women like never before. Or 2.) Before you actually try them. In the first case, tips work great. In the second, they lead to catastophe - educational catastrophe, but still. After you're sleeping alone for a while, you realize the tip you thought was great wasn't so great after all. Sounds, heartthrob, like you need to do some more sleeping alone before you'll figure that out. I've had plenty. It's not that bad, good luck.

To Brother AP - it's been a while bro, but I've always liked your approach to things. Why complicate matters? One question: so are these posts people type not even worth the electricity it takes to render them on a screen? Is this board just totally useless?

I can talk to any bum on the street and he will tell me that if I approach enough women I will become good at it. Should I just turn off my screen and never come back? I'm looking for shortcuts, traps I can easily avoid. Also, if someone doesn't tell me how to act, how should I know what I should do? Following these fools has to be better than what I was doing before - nothing!

I'm not trying to tarnish what you said - I agreed with every word - just trying to get the most possible from it.

 

[comic_relief]

The more I give her, the harder she falls for me.

I believe that Pook put it best, "To be perfect is boring, but to be human is beautiful."

Guys, perfection is boring and everyone should know that. I believe that tactics and sh!t like that is pretty lame anymore. I have got to the point in the game that I will never need alcohol or drugs because I can get girls without it. People question how I do it. I have just made myself become attractive to myself and girls feel this and want to be.

if i could think of one rule that everyone should follow is "Become the person that you want to become because you want to become it. No other reason. Love yourself for who you are. If you don't, than how will you command other women to love you?"

Be Human and be great. Accept opportunities. Live life without regrets.

Comic_Relief