Every Woman Left On The Market Is Fvcked Up

[Roober]

How I define a "classy" woman:

• She takes complete responsibility for her words and actions without prompting
• She is respectful toward her man because she knows that is her role
• She considers herself a help to him in furthering his goals in life
• She has zero interest in TV, movies, etc.
• She has a strong faith
• She defers to a man's leadership and in fact craves it

A skilled manipulator is by definition a non-classy female. Any man worth his salt should be able to vet that out. One of the big challenges of the young man is that it is very difficult to do this vetting accurately. As you mature, your instincts develop to a degree that the young man can't even conceive of.

Women are ancillary in a man's life. I agree that a man should become a better man for power and not for women. A decent women is only one perk for a man who develops himself. To use my own woman as an example, she knows full well that I could leave her at any time and be just fine. I've told her that and she gets it. In other words, she knows that she is not my life.... she is only a part of it. And that's what an authentic woman wants. A man who makes a woman his main thing in life eventually becomes reviled by her for that very reason.

Women know what they are in relation to men, deep down on an instinctual level.

The question is, are you (any reader of this), as a man, able to draw her pure womanhood out of her? That means are you able to cause her societal pressures to fall by the wayside because her only desire is to submit to you?

I think this is where I really struggled with my ex. Other than the interst in TV, movies, etc., she fit most of the bullets above. However, at about 3 months, it was like a light switch was flipped and she suddenly wasn't as supportive, did not show as much respect, and the distance started. I suppose that was her true nature and the first little bit was just a facade. Something I have had to get over recently is realizing that she was essentially hiding her true nature to get me hooked... hard... and I did...

By your definition, that would be a skilled manipulator...

 

[exhausted]

Not true. I have my best handful of women that I'm dating now at 46. Why are they better now? Because I improved enough that they like me now. As we improve, they become more interested and in effect they improve in their behavior toward you.

How much of a catch are you? Are you expecting her to be more of a catch but just like "you for you"?

well i raised a kid by myself for 17 years now, he is a senior. never received child support(ya i would be in jail)
i went back to college while raising him and got my degree.
i have a good job working for the hospital as a physical therapist for 10 years now.
i have bought two homes, on my own. have an excellent credit rating.
cars,four wheelers.
I have a good bank account, save well and am very responsible.
i am very genuine, well composed and carry myself well. have a good demeanor (well except for this past week due to stress of this woman.)
im a good dad, value family and friends and carry a positive and blessed outlook.
coached the local babe ruth baseball team here for years, always well regarded in the community.
i am luckily handsome (thanks mom and dad) and usually always in good shape, decent now but not my norm.
have a very good family, mom is wonderfully nice and 3 sisters we are very close. dad has passed and i carry myself to make him proud of me every day to honor him.
I am the god father of 3 different kids, best man in 3 weddings.

i am not floating my own boat but i have worked very hard to be successful and have a lot to offer.

Have a fun and sarcastic personality

**** i just want an honest and good reliable woman i can count on to be a partner, not a slave...

cant find it, nothing but immoral selfish women.

 

[bigneil]

well i raised a kid by myself for 17 years now, he is a senior. never received child support(ya i would be in jail)
i went back to college while raising him and got my degree.
i have a good job working for the hospital as a physical therapist for 10 years now.
i have bought two homes, on my own. have an excellent credit rating.
cars,four wheelers.
I have a good bank account, save well and am very responsible.
i am very genuine, well composed and carry myself well. have a good demeanor (well except for this past week due to stress of this woman.)
im a good dad, value family and friends and carry a positive and blessed outlook.
coached the local babe ruth baseball team here for years, always well regarded in the community.
i am luckily handsome (thanks mom and dad) and usually always in good shape, decent now but not my norm.
have a very good family, mom is wonderfully nice and 3 sisters we are very close. dad has passed and i carry myself to make him proud of me every day to honor him.
I am the god father of 3 different kids, best man in 3 weddings.

i am not floating my own boat but i have worked very hard to be successful and have a lot to offer.

Have a fun and sarcastic personality

**** i just want an honest and good reliable woman i can count on to be a partner, not a slave...

cant find it, nothing but immoral selfish women.

You sound like a good catch, and with some work on punctuation you will be fine.

 

[exhausted]

You sound like a good catch, and with some work on punctuation you will be fine.

Ha agreed.
I write notes all day, i get lazy on here.

 

[bigneil]

Ha agreed.
I write notes all day, i get lazy on here.

As long as you work on self improvement despite your strengths you are destined to find a woman who you fall for. I'm 46 and I genuinely wonder if I ever loved a woman until one week ago. You might not know what you are missing.

 

[resilient]

Solid post, Atom.

It's kind of like that old saying, "When the student is ready, the teacher appears".

Always liked that quote. I can't remember if it originated in The Mask of Zorro (1998) when Don Diego de la Vega (Anthony Hopkins) said that or elsewhere, yet it's great.

In this case, when the man is ready, the class of women he deserves will appear. Going after bar skanks and non-exceptional women is nothing but dissipation and it stunts your growth as a man.

On a psychological and biological level this is true. That we most often attract women on our same emotional development wavelength. If we as DJs, keep attracting crazy plates, we have to take a hard look in the mirror and self-examine what needs improving to increase our SMV.

But I digress as is my custom. Decide what a man of class actually is, and become that man one tiny little step at a time. How does a man of class treat his body? How does he treat his work? Improve each facet of life day by day and you will see a better class of women "magically" appearing.

Excellent. Yes. Always be working towards goals. I haven't hit that "level" with plates yet, although I've noticed more prospects have been getting interested and have been approaching me at gatherings instead of usually feeling like the wallflower in previous years.

A woman can only fall in love with a man who she regards as superior to her. Ask yourself if you are superior to the class of woman you want.

Again, not yet. However, I aspire to be.

The key to success in any and every endeavor in life it to take tiny, baby steps. In this way you avoid overwhelm and confusion.

Agreed!

 

[Poon King]

How I define a "classy" woman:

• She takes complete responsibility for her words and actions without prompting
• She is respectful toward her man because she knows that is her role
• She considers herself a help to him in furthering his goals in life
• She has zero interest in TV, movies, etc.
• She has a strong faith
• She defers to a man's leadership and in fact craves it

Never met such a woman. I'm serious when I say NEVER. And I've met a lot of women.

I would also add physical attractiveness to the list. She has to be attractive.

A skilled manipulator is by definition a non-classy female. Any man worth his salt should be able to vet that out. One of the big challenges of the young man is that it is very difficult to do this vetting accurately. As you mature, your instincts develop to a degree that the young man can't even conceive of.

Women are ancillary in a man's life. I agree that a man should become a better man for power and not for women. A decent women is only one perk for a man who develops himself. To use my own woman as an example, she knows full well that I could leave her at any time and be just fine. I've told her that and she gets it. In other words, she knows that she is not my life.... she is only a part of it. And that's what an authentic woman wants. A man who makes a woman his main thing in life eventually becomes reviled by her for that very reason.

Women know what they are in relation to men, deep down on an instinctual level.

Agree.

However.. I do believe 100% of women are manipulators on some level. They have to be. Nature gave them this tool as leverage against male physical power. If you can't identify the manipulation it just means she is more skilled than most.

The question is, are you (any reader of this), as a man, able to draw her pure womanhood out of her? That means are you able to cause her societal pressures to fall by the wayside because her only desire is to submit to you?

Here is the thing: I shouldn't have to.

My value should be clear pretty early. If I have to kiss her ass then she has an inflated ego and a power agenda.

 

[bigneil]

It's kind of like that old saying, "When the student is ready, the teacher appears".

Prophetic in my situation. Get this: 2 weeks before I met my dream girl last August I met another hot girl. But when I told her my business was generating about $5000 per week she yawned (she is 22). So I said "that does it" and I got a second contract, bringing my total to $10,000 per week. The very day I got the second contract I met my dream girl (then 20, and standing next to the other girl on stage), who did not yawn when I told her how my business was doing (I explain to people exactly how they can achieve this, I don't brag so much). Since I met her I have maintained both contracts, earning 10 months pay in the past 5 months, and both contracts got extended. Since I don't pay her (not directly anyway) I think the main thing that changed is my confidence level. I no longer live with a boss who can change my life. Now I have two sources of income and am independent. She makes a big difference in keeping me happy enough to thrive at both jobs, so I spoil her.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Never met such a woman. I'm serious when I say NEVER. And I've met a lot of women.

I would also add physical attractiveness to the list. She has to be attractive.




Agree.

However.. I do believe 100% of women are manipulators on some level. They have to be. Nature gave them this tool as leverage against male physical power. If you can't identify the manipulation it just means she is more skilled than most.




Here is the thing: I shouldn't have to.

My value should be clear pretty early. If I have to kiss her ass then she has an inflated ego and a power agenda.

The drawing out is passive. You are who you are, and this provides a channel by which all that artifice falls away.

My entire point is that by becoming a man who YOU are proud to be, the "female" issue takes care of itself. You no longer have to act and manipulate. You either accept or reject, all on your own terms.

And yes, you are right... Physical attractiveness is a MUST. That makes it all the more rare because as I always say, "Quality of character is inversely proportional to good looks".

Rare does not mean nonexistent, though.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Lord have mercy, what does this statement mean? I keep hearing this over and over, what does this mean??

- If there's NO women on the market, in my area, or very FEW in the market/area that fit what I deem quality, how is someone supposed to randomly appear if they don't exist?

- When you say they randomly appear, appear where?? Am I going to be sitting at an Detroit Pistons game and she will randomly come up to me and say "here I am"!?

Yes, I'm a little passionate but I'm not trying to be rude, I'm asking you to elaborate on this statement because I do not get it.



- So I need to continue working on myself and deny all "lower quality women"

- Then the super high quality woman will magically APPEAR one day

- Then I live happily ever after?

And what if this doesn't occur? What if it doesn't happen? I would have wasted my entire life WAITING for a chick to appear that 90% chance says she doesn't even exist Atom.



Which means they are off the market Atom! So how is she supposed to randomly APPEAR to Tenacity if she's off the market?!



This is coming from me personally, but I DO NOT consider divorced women nor widows to be high quality. I do not. She most likely already has kids and remember, a chick with another man's kids isn't high quality to me.



I 100% agree with this.

For starters, your not understanding is because of your "target fixation" for lack of a better term. You're not at a place yet where you can say "Screw it. They're almost all worthless" and become satisfied with yourself instead. You need to accept that the vast majority of women today are trash, and I will repeat this... you must accept this. Then you need to let go of the need or strong desire for a woman, and instead become the best man you can be for yourself. Strictly for yourself.

Once you do this, and once you truly become an actualized man who does not need a woman, you will start to come across higher and higher quality of woman. You will start to be the chooser, instead of the choosee which is what 99% of men on this forum are.

I am a chooser, not a choosee, because I gave up on digging through the sh!t and instead I took the hammer and chisel to myself and hammered myself into a man who is respected and trusted. I completely abandoned the search for a woman (while always leaving the door open for one to come to me), and concentrated on becoming a man of power and influence. I also took care of myself spiritually which I consider to be of vital importance. A man who is a peace with God is a man who walks the earth with a different kind of authority. He is both an authority and a servant.

You need to get "What if that doesn't occur" out of your head for good. If it doesn't occur, then you will have escaped the torture of being with a woman who would have systematically dismantled your inner core brick by brick. If it does occur, you will know why and you will have an inner knowing that it is authentic and right.

You are right.. most of them are off the market. That's exactly the conclusion I came to. I could not find a good woman because the quality ones simply get married young. I get how you feel regarding previously married women. All I ever went out with was women who have ridden the carousel God knows how many times. We both know that this constitutes most women.

But what about a woman who has had one partner only, and has never strayed from that? That's who I ended up meeting, and I can live with that. This woman absolutely radiates incredible character and beauty to everyone who meets her. Not just to me... everyone who meets her gushes to me about the inner beauty and character that she radiates. It is so rare to them that it is striking to them.

So how did I get this one in a million woman? I accepted that almost all women are depraved, entitled brats whose inner cores have been destroyed by the media. I washed my hands of looking for a women. Instead I went to work on myself with my hammer and chisel, self-administering the pain of chipping away the flaws in my own personality in order to reveal a decent man underneath. All the while I left my door unlocked in case a quality women would knock on it.

I kept a profile open on an online dating site. I stopped approaching women completely on that site. I simply let the bait float in the water for a few years. I occasionally would look at the women who approached me and quickly deleted them because they did not qualify. Then, one day, one approached me and I was interested, because she was able to articulate things in her profile that no woman I have ever met has been able or willing to articulate. She clearly considered taking responsibility for her words and actions very seriously. She was spiritually grounded, something that is essential for me. We started writing and I put her through the ringer in order to vet her.

I knew that this was an exceptional women, but was figuring that she would blow her cover and I would find out she was like all the rest. But she was definitely worth taking a chance on.

She looked pretty hot in her one profile picture, but when I met her, my God, she was stunning. Curiously I wasn't rattled by her beauty at all. It all flowed naturally because I was READY. This girl cannot go out with just anybody. She needs an exceptional man, and I am that man because I purposed in my heart and mind to become that man years ago. For myself, not for a woman. As I always say, women are just a perk in a man's life.

Thant's why I say that if a man is relationship-minded, he should let go of this fruitless search. It's like trying to pick up a drop of mercury. It will always slip away from your grasp. He should instead KNOW that he lives in a world where most women are destroyed. Therefore he must turn to himself (and hopefully God) and decide to be an exceptional man.

It is a seemingly overwhelming task but the secret is those tiny, baby steps I'm always preaching about.

The biggest hint of all: Self-belief in opposition to all that you "know" and observe is the key to all accomplishment. Delusional self-belief... I decided to believe I was that which I wasn't yet. You can believe you are wealthy when you're broke. You can believe anything about yourself even though your circumstances tell you (or scream at you) otherwise. You will become what you choose to believe in.

Once these things become objective reality, higher-quality people start making their way to your door.

The relentless pursuit of women is a waste of time and a huge dissipation of a man's inner power. I say, become powerful first, and then let them some to you. That's how it works. Most of us know that true knowledge has a way of being counter-intuitive.

YOU and your character are far more important than any woman. Build yourself and design your life the way you want it to be, and you will meet women who agree that statement. She will gladly submit to a man who has his sh!t together. In fact, she is helpless to do otherwise.

 

[devilkingx2]

In this case, when the man is ready, the class of women he deserves will appear.

Lord have mercy, what does this statement mean? I keep hearing this over and over, what does this mean??

- If there's NO women on the market, in my area, or very FEW in the market/area that fit what I deem quality, how is someone supposed to randomly appear if they don't exist?

- When you say they randomly appear, appear where?? Am I going to be sitting at an Detroit Pistons game and she will randomly come up to me and say "here I am"!?

Yes, I'm a little passionate but I'm not trying to be rude, I'm asking you to elaborate on this statement because I do not get it.

right now, if you were to text a supermodel, she would blow you off.

but if you were to become some superstar amazing badass who's rich and famous, and then text a supermodel, she'd wanna know what you're doing on friday night.

so i presume the operating theory here, is that the women you would consider quality are some of the ones who aren't returning your calls/texts, or they're in places where you aren't looking

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I agree in life we should always be improving in every way possible.

However, what does it matter towards women when women are absolutely getting worse and fuching worse by the year.

The crazy thing is, when you look at it pragmatically, all this cutting edge red-pill stuff is actually going full circle back to the good old-fashioned notions of morality; you improve yourself by controlling yourself; you select the 'quality' women; you have central concerns that transcend running around after a bit of new skirt.

 

[Tenacity]

Once you do this, and once you truly become an actualized man who does not need a women, you will start to come across higher and higher quality of women.

This is an excellent post and in no way am I trying to be "arrogant" or anything of the sort, but I want to provide you more information.

I Will Continue To Work On Myself

Yes, Tenacity is going to continue to work on himself in all areas to continue to try to be the best Tenacity he can. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with women, but more to do with Tenacity because the better I become, the more money I make, the higher I go in my career, etc. I'm already doing this aspect Atom.


Your Super Duper High Quality Woman, Is Not My Super, Duper High Quality Woman

The problem I have with your statement is that you keep referring to these very special, exclusive, "women" that will DRAW towards me once I reach some level of self-actualization. It's a very magical and mythical statement, almost like the Law of Attraction in a lot of ways, and it's just not something that any guy can rationally plan out, EXPECT, nor forecast.

I still don't understand how this woman is supposed to come to me? For example, I'm currently writing a book, let's say the book blows up and I become a very popular author, does she FIND ME that way, while I'm out doing a book tour? Or from being popular in general, she finds me at a UFC event sitting ringside watching Conor destroy somebody's face?

In addition, your definition of the super, duper high quality woman is not my definition, which means when you give me strategies to find the high quality woman, you always seem to define her based on YOUR terms....not mine...because you really didn't dig deep into what my definition of her is.

In a lot of ways, my definition of the super, duper high quality woman does not exist, I will tell you who she is:

- No kids
- Finances on par or above mines
- At least HB7 and above
- Interest Level very high
- She does a lot of quality stuff for me
- She comes from a great family background, household, dad was there, etc.
- She's no older than 32
- SHE'S BLACK


I'm Zoning In On Ms. "Good Enough" Rather Than Ms. "Perfect"

The reality is that the actual quantity of black women LEFT ON THE MARKET that fit that description from a NATIONAL STANDPOINT, has got to be so low that they don't even register. This is a fact....not my opinion....it's a fact.

There's no strategy, there's no plan, there's no self-actualization, or anything, that I'm going to do to find this woman.

Now, what I have found are black women who are 80% of this. I've found:

- No kids
- Finances are at least "ok"
- She's at least a HB6
- Interest Level is at least "efficient/high enough"
- She does things for me here and there
- Family background is random, could've been good, most of the time not so good
- She's no older than 32
- SHE'S BLACK

That's the BEST I'm going to get and that's what I'm going to roll with. I've had women like this and I lost most of them through my own internal anger issues by just randomly going off on women that I've documented on here prior.

My focus now is to continue to keep my anger issues in check and ZONE in on the "best it's going to get" girl (decent enough quality) because quite frankly, I'm NOT going to find my definition of the super, duper high quality black chick because considering:

- 75% of us grew up in a single mother household, that only leaves 25% left

- Then in terms of growing up with a stable family from let's say a middle class standpoint, that drops down to 7% in terms of black families

- Of that 7%, how many are still on the market right now with the criteria I laid out? Maybe.......0.3%?

There's no way Tenacity finds that 0.3%. There's no way that 0.3% finds Tenacity. Why you ask? Because the 0.3% is usually not on the market long enough to even be found or to be SEEKING to be found. If she falls into the market, HER SOCIAL CIRCLE immediately finds her a replacement before TENACITY even has a chance directly or indirectly, to get her. She's not on a dating site. She's not in a club. She's not out anywhere that Tenacity can find her or she can WALK UP to Tenacity. That's the truth.

So because of this, this is why I'm zoning in on my "decent enough quality" chick and you know what Atom? That's fine for me....because who the hell am I to expect a chick be the super, duper high quality chick...when I'm not the super, duper high quality man? I come from a FVCKED up family situation, but her family situation has to be perfect lol? That's completely unfair. I wouldn't even RELATE to the 0.3% super, duper high quality chick. WTF does she know about being homeless and the struggle?

 

[Solomon]

This is an excellent post and in no way am I trying to be "arrogant" or anything of the sort, but I want to provide you more information.

- No kids
- Finances on par or above mines
- At least HB7 and above
- Interest Level very high
- She does a lot of quality stuff for me
- She comes from a great family background, household, dad was there, etc.
- She's no older than 32
- SHE'S BLACK

As a fellow black man I can already tell you this type of BLACK woman you looking for does not exist good luck if you're in america!!!!
From personal experience most black women are washed up...here are some stats from where I live in the midwest

70% of the have kids where I live

This already eliminates a lot of women of your list, most black women who do fit your list are already wifed up or chasing white men (where I live)

The point I'm trying to make is that you won't find her if you do it's gonna be slim, you best of dating foreign women cause you looking for a unicorn.
Or date outside of your race, most black women in america are a fucccing trash.

 

[bigneil]

You want a black woman with no kids and good finances?? Good luck!! 39% of black women are on food stamps.

 

[Atom Smasher]

@Tenacity, she does exist. She is exceedingly RARE but she does exist.

Everyone knows me as a very "nuts & bolts" kind of guy. I don't buy into "The Secret" or "manifesting".

Bu doing all the things I mentioned, what happens is that you change the way you carry yourself and project yourself, and therefore a higher class of woman is attracted to you. When higher functioning women are attracted to a high-functioning man, they let it be known. They do not play the games you are constantly forced to play. This is because they are up-front and honest, to the degree that women can be.

Women like this are a secret society that is invisible to the average person here. That's why you and almost everyone here thinks they simply don't exist. They recognize quality men simply by observing them (intuition and BL cues) and again, they make no bones about letting the man know that they are attracted.

They also know that this kind of man needs them not one iota, and that is extremely attractive to them.

Unfortunately, you think need, just like I think I needed 8 years ago.

 

[Tenacity]

@Tenacity, she does exist. She is exceedingly RARE but she does exist.

Everyone knows me as a very "nuts & bolts" kind of guy. I don't buy into "The Secret" or "manifesting".

Bu doing all the things I mentioned, what happens is that you change the way you carry yourself and project yourself, and therefore a higher class of woman is attracted to you. When higher functioning women are attracted to a high-functioning man, they let it be known. They do not play the games you are constantly forced to play. This is because they are up-front and honest, to the degree that women can be.

Women like this are a secret society that is invisible to the average person here. That's why you and almost everyone here thinks they simply don't exist. They recognize quality men simply by observing them (intuition and BL cues) and again, they make no bones about letting the man know that they are attracted.

They also know that this kind of man needs them not one iota, and that is extremely attractive to them.

Unfortunately, you think need, just like I think I needed 8 years ago.

Atom,

Buddy I agree, the black woman I listed exists but did you get the part where I said she's 0.3% of the market?

I have two options:

1.) Zone in on the decent enough quality girl I outlined.

2.) Do more work on myself (which is what I'm doing anyway) and HOPE this black woman appears.

I'm not waiting and hoping. I have far more important things to do in my life and at the end of the day.....These are just women. I have honestly already been putting too much brain power and energy into this.

 

[zekko]

Once you do this, and once you truly become an actualized man who does not need a women, you will start to come across higher and higher quality of women.

I remember when I was a struggling young pup. One of the things I used to hate hearing the most was "Girls will show up when you stop looking". Made no sense to me. I'm all for self improvement though, raising your value. Tenacity actually has a lot going for him. He just needs to fix his inner game issues and I suspect his taste in women may be off.

"Be confident" used to drive me crazy also. No advice on how to go about achieving this confidence, just "Be confident". To be fair, I was pretty good at faking it back in the day. Like many young men, I was a curious mix of insecurities and arrogance.

Some people hate "Be yourself", but I've always seen this as good advice. Basically, you want to be relaxed enough around women in order to let your real personality and humor come through. And you want to be your best self.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

I'm not waiting and hoping. I have far more important things to do in my life and at the end of the day.....These are just women. I have honestly already been putting too much brain power and energy into this.

This is key. You absolutely do not wait and hope. Instead, you invest your time and energy into you. Ironically, some of the men here spend so much time spinning plates, it makes me wonder, why are they so invested in women? Why not invest that time into yourself instead and grow exponentially.

Yes, I know, young guys are flooded with testosterone, and need pzzy at all times. But, come on, get those "needs" under control.

 

[Poon King]

Atom,

Buddy I agree, the black woman I listed exists but did you get the part where I said she's 0.3% of the market?

I have two options:

1.) Zone in on the decent enough quality girl I outlined.

2.) Do more work on myself (which is what I'm doing anyway) and HOPE this black woman appears.

I'm not waiting and hoping. I have far more important things to do in my life and at the end of the day.....These are just women. I have honestly already been putting too much brain power and energy into this.

Remember that spending your life looking for a unicorn is a sh!tty dating strategy.

Here are the reasons why:
1. IF you ever meet such a woman you will become a co-dependent faggot with no leverage "afraid of losing her". What fun is that?
2. You ignore the very nature of women as perishable food items. They ALL degrade in quality over time. Its a fact.
3. IF you find her and she rejects you or leaves you.. it can lead to deep depression or becoming a stalker.

Why men want SO BAD to be in relationships where they pedestalize ONE woman and have no leverage is something I'll never understand. I prefer women that I find attractive, but don't fear losing. It just makes life easier.