Every Woman Left On The Market Is Fvcked Up

[mrgoodstuff]

How ironic that the poster than has been moaning, groaning, and blaming and who is contentious, uncompromising, and devoid of quality himself is complaining that there are no quality women left! LOL.

Hint Tenacity: A few of the women that you describe in your quote above could be of higher quality, but are "flakey," "lukewarm," and give you "mixed signals," as you don't command enough quality within yourself to merit their deference to you.

Not necessarily. Some of the more predatory gold digging b1tches would love to run games, blow off and waste the time of some of their celebrity and status targets. It's what they do. It's not always you. Sometime they just wasn't quality people.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Not necessarily. Some of the more predatory gold digging b1tches would love to run games, blow off and waste the time of some of their celebrity and status targets. It's what they do. It's not always you. Sometime they just wasn't quality people.

Hint Tenacity: A few of the women who you describe in your quote above could be of higher quality,

 

[Tenacity]

I agree with this theory only my view is a bit more extreme. Not looking for a needle in a haystack, you are looking for a marble in the bottom of the ocean. There are for sure good women out there, but in the time you have on this Earth chances are you aren't going to find one. Now if we humans lived for 10,000 years then I'd say you got a lot better chance.

This has been my conclusion as well, but I'm always the type of guy that wants to do self-reflection, so if there's something I might be doing majorly "wrong" that's CAUSING the personality/attitude problems for example....hell...I would like to know? But I honestly don't know what it could be?

- I'm getting more dates/sex with HB6 - HB8 women than ever before
- Women routinely tell me how attractive I am (looks wise, personality wise, convo wise, financially, etc)

So if I'm doing something "wrong", I don't know what it is?

Either you have to meet more women or lower your standards a little bit. You can't expect to meet the perfect woman you want if you're not out meeting a lot of women.

I have been dating/fvcking countless women. I know it's well over 200 since 2012/2013. These aren't hood rats either, most of them are/were decent women, they just had ISSUES. And my conclusion is that this is just a market problem.

How ironic that the poster than has been moaning, groaning, and blaming and who is contentious, uncompromising, and devoid of quality himself is complaining that there are no quality women left! LOL.

This is the shyt that I don't understand from some of these guys. I understand "Tenacity" has pissed you off and pissed in your corn flakes through various debates on this forum (especially through exposing your hero Poon King), but when you say I have no QUALITY, what the fvck are you talking about? Are you just talking shyt because I pissed in your corn flakes, or what are you referring to?

Now watch I get NO answer from this guy, just more bullshyt comments like this.

Hint Tenacity:

A few of the women who you describe above could be of higher quality, but are "flakey," "lukewarm," and give you "mixed signals," as you don't command enough quality within yourself to merit their deference to you.

Okay so I'm causing the woman to be flakey, lukewarm and provide mixed signals? Then let me ask you a couple follow-up questions if I'm causing this:

- Why are many of these women making out/kissing and fvcking me?

- Why are they single? If "Tenacity" isn't checking all of their boxes to where your theory is that "Tenacity" is causing them to be lukewarm or flakey, then why is it that they haven't found another guy that checks all of the boxes? Surely if "Tenacity" is such low quality to be causing these women to be flakey like your theory claims, then WHY is it that they aren't dating the higher quality guy then? Why are they fvcking Tenacity?

I hope you answer my questions........

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I have thought about this. I understand that in my other thread I said I never met a quality girl worthy of marriage, but that was an exaggeration. In my very short time here on this Earth, I have met 2 women who were quality (looks-wise and personality too). I am fairly certain that one girl had degenerated at least somewhat. The other girl probably hasn't but at this point from what I see and from what everyone here is telling me, it wouldn't surprise me if she too had defected though.

I think some areas are better than others though. That's all I can say right now.

Edit: After some quick facebook searches, it turns out that the first girl who has degenerated a bit has gotten chubby. She was really hot when she was skinny. feelsbadman . She is currently with a decent guy that I know, not a wimp but not someone (pardon my arrogance) like me.

Second girl she is still pretty, though I can see that aging may not be fair to her though. She is currently with a good guy I know and used to be friends with. I'm assuming she is still a good person based on the guy she is with. He is a little better than the first guy.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Okay so I'm causing the woman to be flakey, lukewarm and provide mixed signals? Then let me ask you a couple follow-up questions if I'm causing this:

- Why are many of these women making out/kissing and fvcking me?

- Why are they single? If "Tenacity" isn't checking all of their boxes to where your theory is that "Tenacity" is causing them to be lukewarm or flakey, then why is it that they haven't found another guy that checks all of the boxes? Surely if "Tenacity" is such low quality to be causing these women to be flakey like your theory claims, then WHY is it that they aren't dating the higher quality guy then? Why are they fvcking Tenacity?

I hope you answer my questions........

I meet plenty of women that I plate, fvck, and toss. They are hot. That's it. They don't possess the "quality" characteristics that merit an LTR. Accordingly, I don't take them seriously and maximize their utility--which is to fvck. And when I get bored, I toss them, or keep them in distant rotation. These women would say that I'm flakey, that I lack respect, that I give them mixed signals, but the truth is they aren't quality enough to be taken seriously. And so I treat them accordingly.

Now men and women differ. The distinction is while women are judged primarily at their hotness to fvck, men are trifucated among looks, status, and financials. Accordingly, you may be pushing all three buttons (looks, status, financials) but you lack the quality to hold them or to be given serious LTR consideration. You are kind of like the hot BPD girl who is good enough to fvck (man equivalent to looks, status, financials) but lacks the necessary quality to command LTR suitability. Get it?

 

[Trainwreck]

After I realized the quality of women out there and the women I attracted, I put the white towel out. I have better things to waste my time on than women lol.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Like I've said many times again brother you gotta travel a little bit and see a variety of women. Now I agree that there isn't many girls out there that will be perfect for you but there is an exception to every rule and one day you may find it. One thing that I can tell you is not too look for it, let it come to you. In the meantime make sure your mind is right and your the best person you can be.

Like I've said before I'm down to travel just about anytime so whenever you wanna make trips let me know. Also glad to see your making 6 figures. Welcome to the club! Next step half a mill.

 

[Trump]

These issues include:

- Having a kid or kids from other guys. Lord help you if you are dating a black woman with kid(s) because at least 75% of the time the kid(s) will be from a Ray Ray or Pookie type of guy. You know the guy with 5 felonies, from 5 different counties, who has been locked up in 5 different prisons? Yes, that guy, and when he gets out of jail he might call and leave you a voicemail like this THUG did to Tenacity last year: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/tenacity-gets-threatened-by-a-thug-listen-lol.233962/

- Having bad finances. This means you meet her Monday, fvck her by Thursday, and by next Monday she's already begging you for money because her car is about to be towed, the lights are about to be cut off, or she's behind 2 months on rent and about to be kicked out. So because you are "her man", she wants you to help her get stable because you know, that's what a "real man" would do.

- Having weight issues. Yes, there's a McDonalds on every corner but today there's damn near a gym on every corner as well. Hundreds of diet plans, tons of gyms, etc., there's no god damn reason for a girl to be extremely overweight like 200lbs or something. Yes, I like THICK girls, but not BBW girls. There's a difference!

- Some sort of personality/attitude problem. So this includes a laundry list of things, the girl could have a mental disorder (bipolar), she could be flakey as hell, she could be lukewarm, she could display mixed signals, she could be a gold-digger, she could be high maintenance, she could be bougie as hell, she could deliberately withhold sex, she could be controlling, she might have gotten divorced before and carries baggage from that, she might have daddy/mommy/family issues and carries baggage from that, etc., etc.

Every woman on this market will have one or MORE of these issues above. The Manosphere tells guys to NEXT, NEXT, and NEXT when they run into one of these issues, but my question is.........NEXT TO WHAT? NEXT TO WHO?

Where the fvck are you going to go lol? If you NEXT the chick with weight issues you will run into one with bad finances, if you next the one with bad finances you will run into one with personality/attitude issues.......every chick you deal with will have at least ONE major issue that makes being with her "a challenge".

What do you guys think of my analysis? My strategy going forward is to filter off the chicks with weight issues, kids, and bad finances, to just DEAL with the chicks with the personality/attitude problems. Yes, they annoy the fvck out of me with the personality/attitude related shyt, but where else am I going to go? That's the BEST it's going to get.

Bro your thinking is off. You are blaming the women for not being a great women rather than improving your product to have high class women come at you.

If you offered something of great VALUE that people couldn't live without, you would get young 20 year old models begging you to sleep with them.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

but when you say I have no QUALITY, what the fvck are you talking about?

I missed this one. For most people, quality will encompass the following:

Humility, generosity, good manners, class, debonair, gratitude, self-responsibility, willingness to learn, empathetic, understanding, emotionally healthy, psychologically healthy, not needy, self-respect, respect to others, compassion, uncontroversial, willing to give without expectation in return, strong familial values, honor, strong sense of self, inter alia.

So do you possess most/all of these attributes to label yourself as a "quality" man? I'd venture to guess most of these attributes don't describe you.

 

[Tenacity]

Like I've said many times again brother you gotta travel a little bit and see a variety of women. Now I agree that there isn't many girls out there that will be perfect for you but there is an exception to every rule and one day you may find it. One thing that I can tell you is not too look for it, let it come to you. In the meantime make sure your mind is right and your the best person you can be.

Like I've said before I'm down to travel just about anytime so whenever you wanna make trips let me know. Also glad to see your making 6 figures. Welcome to the club! Next step half a mill.

Actually I've been doing some traveling as of late lol. I need to get my schedule in order to do more of it though.

You are blaming the women for not being a great women rather than improving your product to have high class women come at you.

I still don't know what "having high class women come at me" means? Are you saying that once I improve on whatever it is Legend is saying I'm lacking, high quality women just line up at my door or approach me or something out of the blue?

Accordingly, you may be pushing all three buttons (looks, status, financials) but you lack the quality to hold them or to be given serious LTR consideration. You are kind of like the hot BPD girl who is good enough to fvck (man equivalent to looks, status, financials) but lacks the necessary quality to command LTR suitability. Get it?

For most people, quality will encompass the following:

Humility, generosity, good manners, class, debonair, gratitude, self-responsibility, willingness to learn, empathetic, understanding, emotionally healthy, psychologically healthy, not needy, self-respect, respect to others, compassion, uncontroversial, willing to give without expectation in return, strong familial values, honor, strong sense of self, inter alia.

So do you possess most/all of these attributes to label yourself as a "quality" man?

First off, I want to thank you for being able to have this conversation lol. The constant bickering on this forum isn't productive in my opinion.

Now, the first quote makes SENSE in theory, it's the lack of quality part I'm confused on and what your definition of the quality traits would be. Let's go down them:

Humility, generosity, good manners: I don't think these are an issue but I do get labeled as arrogant a little bit, but I'm black....I also get labeled as an "Uncle Tom/Sell Out" just because I'm not struggling in the ghetto. So I'm not sure how much weight the "arrogant" label has.

class, debonair, gratitude, self-responsibility, willingness to learn, empathetic, understanding: I have all of these.

emotionally healthy, psychologically healthy: To an extent yes, but not in total. I've been through a lot of shyt in my life, I don't think I will EVER be 100% internally psychologically healthy man, I was homeless for goodness sakes. The anger and rage episodes have stopped or at least decreased significantly, it was those episodes that I think were the biggest issue.

not needy, self-respect, respect to others, compassion: I have all of these.

uncontroversial: Well, this isn't me at all lol. My entire life is out of the box, it's a part of my profession to be honest. What does this have to do with being a quality man though? Why it is my fault that my ambition and passion for various things (including change) might "rub" people the wrong way? How is that my fault and how does that make me low quality?

willing to give without expectation in return, honor, strong sense of self: I have all of these.

strong familial values: Well, I don't have this. I mean if I have a kid or kids I WILL be the best Father I possibly can. But hell, my family situation isn't The Cosby Show and that's not my fault. What am I supposed to do about that and why do I have to be labeled "low quality" because of what other people (i.e. my family) are on and are about?

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

I'll entertain this as I'm willing to give without expectation in return.

Humility, generosity, good manners

I don't think these are an issue but I do get labeled as arrogant a little bit, but I'm black....I also get labeled as an "Uncle Tom/Sell Out" just because I'm not struggling in the ghetto. So I'm not sure how much weight the "arrogant" label has.

I have never seen you exhibit humility.

I'll concede on generosity: I see you generous with helping other posters.

I have not seen you well-mannered, really ever.

Class, debonair, gratitude, self-responsibility, willingness to learn, empathetic, understanding:

I have all of these.

Your internet persona does not exhibit class, debonair, or gratitude.

You are constantly blaming and pointing out. This is not self-responsibility.

You are very contentious. Your response to me is the first time I have seen you willing to learn.

Empathetic maybe, certainly not understanding, as you extremely contentious.

Emotionally healthy, psychologically healthy.

To an extent yes, but not in total.

With all due respect, let's be honest, you have been a mess often. Have you not admitted to going on tirades with women? And quite understandable, as you had a tough past. Time to let your past go.

Not needy, self-respect, respect to others, compassion

I have all of these

Have you not admitted in the past that you need a woman. Did not Guru make a reference about you passing around a "need" bucket to be filled? LOL.

Do you honestly respect yourself fully or is part of your self image tainted with never having fit in?

I have rarely seen you respect anyone on this website, even those who tried to help.

As for compassion, I don't enough info to make this determination.

Uncontroversial

Well, this isn't me at all lol. My entire life is out of the box, it's a part of my profession to be honest. What does this have to do with being a quality man though? Why it is my fault that my ambition and passion for various things (including change) might "rub" people the wrong way? How is that my fault and how does that make me low quality?

Heard the expression that you catch more bees with honey? Your partner wants to be at peace with you, not argue constantly. You need to be harmonious, not contentious, especially with intimate relations.

Willing to give without expectation in return, honor, strong sense of self.

I'll concede on the latter two, but on the "willing to give without expectation," have you not argued in the past stating why should you give without getting something in exchange?

Strong familial values

Well, I don't have this

Good, honesty with thyself is a quality trait.

 

[fastlife]

I live right by one of the most expensive colleges in the USA--which is right by the local nightlife. Vast majority of the students are female; most of them have fakes. So it's not unusual for me to run into 18 and 19 y/o's on a night out.

I cast a wide net--what some guys here would term 'spam approach'--so I interface with a wide variety of females--from the bar stars, to the mega slvts, to the college athletes who just go out socially, to the foreign exchange students, to the homesick alcoholic who's about to drop out next semester, to the bookworm who's roommates drag her out for drinks on the last night of the semester, to the crazy druggy chick who drops acid every weekend.

But for the purpose of this post, let's focus on the 'quality women'. I could go out this Friday and meet 5 sexually available girls (notice I didn't say single) who invalidate your checklist. So you can definitely do better than you are currently by placing yourself in a better environment & getting off OLD .

But let's take it a step further: let's just take the girls from stable two-parent households, with intergenerational wealth, who love their dads and whose dads sound pretty alpha, who have well-rounded interests and hobbies, who project class, whose general demeanor is pleasant & polite, who had the best in education & etiquette training, who don't get noticeably drunk in public, whose social media presence is tasteful, possibly including bible verses. Some of them possibly have socially acceptable boyfriends, some of them don't. But basically girls who had every environmental advantage to become the mythical 'unicorn.'

This past year I've met a handful or two of girls like this who also met my physical standards. A year or so ago when I found SS & the manosphere, I thought my women-related experience could be boiled down to daddy-issues and that if I found a girl from the background above and just stayed alpha enough it'd be smooth sailing. I no longer believe that.

Some of these girls just flat out weren't interested (I don't shoot 100% or anywhere close) or were leaving town the next day & logistics were bad--so possibly the 'real unicorns' escaped lol (but realistically they probably just wanted a different flavor). However, of the ones I've gotten to know (and fooled around with, if not slept with), I've found that it's just a different presentation. Behaviorally and verbally, most of these girls display massive red flags that would make me uncomfortable pursuing monogamy with them--though if I met them in a different context, say through social circle or class or work, I'd think these were the sweetest, most innocent girls ever (HINT they're not; they're just more discrete). A lot of seduction/manosphere literature mentions how girls have a sort of duel personality for Lovers vs. Providers, Alphas vs. Beta, Secret Society vs. Non-Secret Society, however you want to classify it. I've found that to be 100% true.

Girls will be whatever you expect them to be. You define the qualification and, as long as you can provide a safe, nonjudgmental environment and eliminate social risks, they'll live up to that qualification. For me, I've found that if I present my more logical qualifications--that I am, deep down, a nice person, that I have monetary ambitions and a realistic chance at realizing them, that I'm generally a law-abiding citizen who makes generally responsible decisions, etc. (like your resume list above)--I'd get placed in the boyfriend, time & attention & dates to nowhere; I'm not that type of girl; category. BUT, and sometimes with the exact same girls, if I play up my more 'socially unacceptable' attributes I'll get an entirely different, much looser set of rules and get a much different portrayal of the girl re: her past and current behavior. For me that's embodying a (possible) deadbeat who won't give them my real name, won't give them a straight up answer about my job (I often tell them ridiculous stories about super low status jobs, some of which they believe), who tells them about other girls I'm seeing or I've seen and some of my less--gentlemanly--anecdotes in that regard, who accuses them of being crazy, bad, sexually deviant, etc. Basically shady AF--to the point where I'm shocked and almost disappointed when a girl, who should know a lot better, comes home with me. Some girls will even excitedly ask if I'm a criminal or a sociopath--and these are 'good girls.'

If you make it seem like socially expected behavior, and environmental factors stack up in your favor, most girls will cheat on their boyfriends (maybe not all, but certainly some of the 'good ones' that are 'already off the market'). This leads to a kind of false dichotomy, where 'quality girls won't cheat' and 'if a girl cheats she wasn't really quality,' when really it's just about what behaviors you incentivize or dicentivize via your own judgmentalism. What I think it comes down to is that girls in the modern environment have an overabundance of options--especially if you (@Tenacity) lead with your logical attributes. In the upper social rungs, she already knows guys who make as much or more than you do; she already knows guys who are in as good of shape as you; she already knows guys who'd like to find a nice girl to settle down with. By the time you start to look like an exception, it's because her own options in that regard have dwindled, probably because of the factors mentioned above. I'd argue you'll get more and better options by being fun, nonjudgmental, a little edgy, a little less 'safe'--those qualities, especially for girls from certain social classes, are more rare in the men she encounters and thus more highly valued. Of course, I can already anticipate your counter arguments--but I'm just offering my view from the ground level about what works and what doesn't, not what should work.

For the guys who say things like 'Be a quality guy and quality women appear' I'd say on one level that's true, but be mindful of what qualities you're developing and what motivations girls have for mirroring those qualities back to you--or else you won't ever get the full picture.

 

[Tenacity]

Legend,

I just don't know if you are being 100% fair and balanced with this, I do think you have some sort of personal "thing" against me. It started way back with a religious debate we had and ever since then, I've been this HORRIBLE person to you.

I mean you are a big follower of Poon King for example, and you talk about someone lacking humility? Why don't you ever call him out on the shyt he does? I mean if you are a person that can't stand "Tenacity because you say I'm not humble, how can you be such a big fan of Poon King then? Are you SURE you are giving me a 100% fair and balanced analysis, or do you have something against me "personally" that's making you give me such a poor evaluation?

Be honest......

I'll entertain this as I'm willing to give without expectation in return.

Humility, generosity, good manners

I have never seen you exhibit humility.

I'll concede on generosity: I see you generous with helping other posters.

I have not seen you well-mannered, really ever.

Do a post search. If I'm not calling out Red Pill/MGTOW guys on one-dimensional bullshyt (which is a heated debate), when am I this out of control, non-mannered, person? I don't get what you are talking about.

Your internet persona does not exhibit class, debonair, or gratitude.

You are constantly blaming and pointing out. This is not self-responsibility.

You are very contentious. Your response to me is the first time I have seen you willing to learn.

Do a post search for goodness sakes. I have an entire fitness journal that's pages long where I did nothing but seek advice which helped get my 6 pack. What about my car journal? What about my Anger Issues thread where I did nothing but seek out advice?

With all due respect, let's be honest, you have been a mess often. Have you not admitted to going on tirades with women?

I thought I already addressed this?

Have you not admitted in the past that you need a woman. Did not Guru make a reference about you passing around a "need" bucket to be filled? LOL.

I believe men need women and women need men, without one or the other the human race wouldn't survive. That's my opinion.

Do you honestly respect yourself fully or is part of your self image tainted with never having fit in?

A part of me will ALWAYS be tainted, not just from childhood issues but from family issues, previous financial issues, homeless issues, etc.

I have to be perfect Legend, I get it. I have achieved more than 98% of the guys on this forum (with documented proof), but you will THROW all of that out, to zone in on shyt I can't control....like deep internal scars from a Past that I had no control over.

Heard the expression that you catch more bees with honey? Your partner wants to be at peace with you, not argue constantly. You need to be harmonious, not contentious, especially with intimate relations.

I never said I argued with any woman constantly, I'm not sure where you are even getting this from. So because I argue with Poon King on here, that means I argue with everybody in real life like that constantly?

Do you say the same to Poon King, or is because Poon King is "your friend", you refuse to tell him the same things you tell me? I'm just curious, are you fair and balanced in this assessment?

 

[Tenacity]

I'd argue you'll get more and better options by being fun, nonjudgmental, a little edgy, a little less 'safe'--those qualities, especially for girls from certain social classes, are more rare in the men she encounters and thus more highly valued.

My personality is already like that, that's pretty much my natural personality.

The direction of the discussion does seem to keep coming back to:

"Well, Tenacity....there must be SOMETHING you are doing that's causing the women to be like this."

- Weight Issues: There's no way I'm causing this, she had this when I met her. Are you saying that I didn't have enough "frame" or something to make her go to the gym and burn the calories off?

- Kids: She had these when I met her and like I said, if she's BLACK, 75% of the time the kids are by some bum, loser, criminal, THUG. So this is my fault too?

- Personality/Attitude Issues: I named off a bunch here so let's just look at some like gold-digger/high maintenance. The girl has been like this her entire life, talk to her friends they will tell you she's high maintenance, but apparently "Tenacity" is making her act that way? Let's look at her flakey/lukewarm attitude, I met her off OKCUPID....she's been on there for at least 18 months.......do you really think "Tenacity" showed up and made this girl flakey or has she been a flakey/serial dating chick for 18 months?

Then let's go back to the thugs for a minute. I told you guys that I know of black women with Master's Degrees and PhDs, who DATE Ray Ray and Pookie.

Now you guys are going through all of this stuff talking about Tenacity isn't humble, I breathe too hard, I wear the wrong tie, I'm too arrogant, and all of this stuff...........when the SAME women I'm referring to who have Master's Degrees, PhDs, and corporate jobs, are dating men who have 1,000X the flaws that "Tenacity" has.

The guy has no job, no car, no place to stay, in and out of jail......all that shyt.

As you can see, it's not making any sense. Legend is WRONG when he says I don't take personal responsibility for shyt. That's ALL I'M ABOUT. I have broken down, analyzed, and looked at my behavior over and over and over and over..........there's no way I'm causing this shyt.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Legend,

I just don't know if you are being 100% fair and balanced with this, I do think you have some sort of personal "thing" against me. It started way back with a religious debate we had and ever since then, I've been this HORRIBLE person to you.

I have no ill will toward you or anyone for that matter. Even those who have screwed me with no Vaseline, I forgive them as well (but I NEXT them permanently). Accordingly, if I did not NEXT you, this means I never had the initial ill will toward you to forgive.

I mean you are a big follower of Poon King for example, and you talk about someone lacking humility?

I don’t follow Poon King.

Why don't you ever call him out on the shyt he does?

He’s closed. If he ever were ready, I would be here.

Are you SURE you are giving me a 100% fair and balanced analysis, or do you have something against me "personally" that's making you give me such a poor evaluation?

Be honest......

Given the above, what do you think?

Do a post search. If I'm not calling out Red Pill/MGTOW guys on one-dimensional bullshyt (which is a heated debate), when am I this out of control, non-mannered, person? I don't get what you are talking about.

If you disagree with a theory, why the need to call it out at all? You have your opinion; they have theirs. State your opinion and move on.

Do a post search for goodness sakes. I have an entire fitness journal that's pages long where I did nothing but seek advice which helped get my 6 pack. What about my car journal? What about my Anger Issues thread where I did nothing but seek out advice?

That’s a great show of humility … ostensibly. But when given advice, instead of showing appreciation to the advice giver, you generally respond with hostility. If you don’t agree with the advice given, thank them for their time, and move on. No need to challenge those who are trying to help.

I believe men need women and women need men, without one or the other the human race wouldn't survive. That's my opinion.

Not that I agree with that entirely, but fair enough.

A part of me will ALWAYS be tainted, not just from childhood issues but from family issues, previous financial issues, homeless issues, etc.

Who you were is not who you can be.

I have to be perfect Legend, I get it. I have achieved more than 98% of the guys on this forum (with documented proof), but you will THROW all of that out, to zone in on shyt I can't control....like deep internal scars from a Past that I had no control over.

Your accomplishments are not important in this discussion. I am buying a two-million dollar building now but I don’t need to announce or validate this to prove myself capable of giving you advice nor to excuse myself from trying to be/become better in all areas of my life.

Au contraire, you DO have control, and CAN supersede your past. I have been raped by family, friends, and the government in an extreme way. I have transcended my past, and so can you.

I never said I argued with any woman constantly, I'm not sure where you are even getting this from. So because I argue with Poon King on here, that means I argue with everybody in real life like that constantly?

By your own admission, did you not have angry episodes with a handful of “quality” women and chased them away? I could provide a link if need be.

Do you say the same to Poon King, or is because Poon King is "your friend", you refuse to tell him the same things you tell me? I'm just curious, are you fair and balanced in this assessment?

Who do you think could benefit more (take what I state and utilize it in a meaningful way) from what I put forth: you or Poon King?

 

[devilkingx2]

you only next the girls who don't fvck you

a relationship is just you dealing with her issues in exchange for sex until her issues become too much for you to bear and the sex is no longer worth it so you dump her and replace her

at least, that's how i've always done things.

 

[devilkingx2]

I disagree. EVERY woman has something wrong with them,nobody is perfect,it all comes down to finding the one you WANT to put up with.

this. most of the things we consider good come with their own set of flaws, and most of the flaws out their come with their own set of perks

Every high quality women I have met the past 5 years were already in a relationship at the time I met them. I had to do the fvcked up thing and seduce a Monica from her bf where they were having problems. What are you gonna do? I had perfect chemistry with her. So that's your one option. To find a high quality woman and seduce her with no remorse. Otherwise, take a number, wait, or whatever.

a good woman wouldn't cheat on her bf just because they had an argument

 

[mrgoodstuff]

This has been my conclusion as well, but I'm always the type of guy that wants to do self-reflection, so if there's something I might be doing majorly "wrong" that's CAUSING the personality/attitude problems for example....hell...I would like to know? But I honestly don't know what it could be?

- I'm getting more dates/sex with HB6 - HB8 women than ever before
- Women routinely tell me how attractive I am (looks wise, personality wise, convo wise, financially, etc)

So if I'm doing something "wrong", I don't know what it is?



I have been dating/fvcking countless women. I know it's well over 200 since 2012/2013. These aren't hood rats either, most of them are/were decent women, they just had ISSUES. And my conclusion is that this is just a market problem.



This is the shyt that I don't understand from some of these guys. I understand "Tenacity" has pissed you off and pissed in your corn flakes through various debates on this forum (especially through exposing your hero Poon King), but when you say I have no QUALITY, what the fvck are you talking about? Are you just talking shyt because I pissed in your corn flakes, or what are you referring to?

Now watch I get NO answer from this guy, just more bullshyt comments like this.



Okay so I'm causing the woman to be flakey, lukewarm and provide mixed signals? Then let me ask you a couple follow-up questions if I'm causing this:

- Why are many of these women making out/kissing and fvcking me?

- Why are they single? If "Tenacity" isn't checking all of their boxes to where your theory is that "Tenacity" is causing them to be lukewarm or flakey, then why is it that they haven't found another guy that checks all of the boxes? Surely if "Tenacity" is such low quality to be causing these women to be flakey like your theory claims, then WHY is it that they aren't dating the higher quality guy then? Why are they fvcking Tenacity?

I hope you answer my questions........

Dude, you boned 200+ women since 2012/2013? That is a hell of a source of self esteem... To know that you have slayed many different variations of females in different situations.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Fastlife,

Excellent post. A tremendous amount of truth in what you've said.

-Augustus-

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

You deal with all of this and make efforts specifically on how to pretty much be an entertainer for women when you game them up, for what? ultimately its just to get our d1cks wet because were males. Lol. Its funny in an absurd way when you take a big step back and look at it, dont you think? What else occupies so much of our mental and physical efforts. I aint advocating mgtow, this just makes me smile/chuckle, yknow?

The insight of the Stoics; unless you have your appetite under control......