Even Nicest Women Of Them All Will Cheat If They Can

[Divorced w 3]

Respectfully this is obviously not true.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

About 15% of my sexual encounters have been in relationships while they fvcked around with me. I suspect many more have had boyfriends and i guess the percentage can be doubled if you include the women that didnt let me know they were cheating.

You cant trust women. Their love is conditional and they are opportunistic.

Yet, that doesnt mean you cant have a relationship, just accept female nature and act accordingly.

Improve your odds by making sure she thinks you are the best that she can get. Make sure she knows you have options and are not afraid of walking away or her leaving at any point.
This is when a woman will be on her best behaviour.

 

[Zontyy]

The only red pill truth to swallow is that women will not cheat if in her mind she with her best option, exceptions apply (for you autists)
Men are loved conditionally, which is not a bad thing, many men cry about that, but that pushes you to become the best, burden of performance.

This is very true, right before my EX cheated she told me flat out said to me that she thought she could do better. I just looked at her and laughed in her face. I said good luck with that, I then said sure you might get some guys to **** you but none of them will ever commit to you. I then informed her how she brought no value to my life but sex and was ultimately she was a burden. That if she wanted to walk, to walk and stop wasting my time. To this day she still brings up how she is a burden . It only lasted as long it did because of my kid.

In the end I got chubby and while we were still having frequent sex, I'm sure she got bored. Between kids and house and life I neglected the most important thing in my life which is my health. In future relationships I won't ever make that mistake again.

 

[Redwood]

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[Hamurabimbi]

I don’t ‘nice’ has anything to do with cheating. Cheaters, nice or not, will cheat.

 

[Pandora]

I really don’t think she is faking the kindness. I don’t know her whole life story. But i do know she used to be really fat and she is like 5’8 150 now. She talks a lot about her weight loss and ive seen pictures. I also know she took care of her mother full time for a while and didn’t date or work. I really do think she is a genuine nice person, but also as you said, hoes gonna be hoes..

Fat chicks who lose weight become sluuts for a long time after losing the weight. That could explain it. But yeh i made a thread on " they all cheat" and got crucified. Good to know that we observe the same thing.

I think that her bf is not the alpha widow guy. She does not see him as her " soulmate". He did not imprint on her. Even if he was the alpha widow guy they could theoretically still cheat but it makes it much harder.

Maybe one day pick her brain as to why she cheats? It will be interesting to see her psychology.

 

[Pandora]

I agree with this. There are likely more beta male nice guys than nice and sweet women.

Some betas are very persistent because they believe that persistence pays off.



This makes sense for younger women but not women 35+ in my experience. The first post referred to a woman who is 49 years old. A 49 year old woman doesn't care that much about her family's opinions. At age 49, a woman likely has parents that are either mentally/physically diminished or dead.

Younger women will care about this, especially when considering a first spouse. After that, it's not that much of a thing.



I agree with this.



In my 12,000+ posts on this forum, I believe the idea that I am most known for is my idea about the shelf life of relationships.

I believe the majority of relationships have a shelf life of goodness of 5 years. It doesn't matter how long a relationship lasts, its only the first 5 years that are the good times. 5 years of goodness assumes at least an average frame. Betas with weaker than average frames won't have a shelf life of goodness that lasts even 5 years, even if a beta gets his relationship to last more than 5 years. There are plenty of beta males in relationships that have lasted more than 5 years.

Frame decay is also a real phenomenon. There are men who start off with decent frames but eventually morph into wimpy beta males.

In an LTR, Year 10 is rarely even close to as good as Year 2. There are relationships that are strong enough and the decay isn't drastic enough to warrant leaving.

The problem with marriages is that marriages tend to extend the zombie phase of a relationship longer. Even with no fault divorce, there's still hesitation to end the relationship. Some non-marital LTRs have a longer zombie phase too, especially when the two people live together. The zombie phase tends to be shortest when breaking up is easiest. Breaking up is easiest in a non-marital relationship where two people don't live together.

Some of my relationships have ended rather easily because there was no cohabitation and there were no children in the equation. I did feel emotional pain when some ended. It was much easier than it likely would have been had there been a marriage, a cohabitation, or children involved.

I think you are on the something when you talk about relationship decay. Mather nature probably did not want long term monogamy. This prob changes if you are her high score but even then.

 

[Captain Rizz]

My GF has a friend who is visiting her from another state for several months while on a temporary work assignment in our area. 49yo. When it comes to adult women, this friend is about the sweetest, nicest female you could want to meet. She is very respectful to me, very caring. Even helped my mother with some things and wanted nothing in return. I have a lot of good things to say about her.. But here is the issue. Even with all those GOOD things, she is still a CHEATER. She is cheating on her BF back home! She has been getting on the dating apps and getting her lay on whenever she has time. I have seen her do a video call with her BF back home and say "I love you". Then later that same day go out with another dude. What prompted me to write this was this past weekend. She flew home just for the weekend, two nights, and came back to my GF's house. I asked her "Did you see (BF) while you were home?" She said "No, I didn't have time". I don't think she even told him she was coming home. But then she said she went to a party and hooked up with another guy! :-( WOW. My conclusion: even the sweet and nice ones will cheat if given a chance. I really think it's programmed in them deeper than the world ever thought. Even in the ones who are really nice people otherwise. The risk of getting caught is low for her, so she is going for it. I think the only way to fix this is to make it so a man can take action if his woman cheats and scare them into behaving. Something we will never see in the USA and only a tiny few other countries do/will. God help us!

You're observing something that often gets overlooked: yeah, even the "sweetest" woman is still human and is still driven by her animal desire If a woman is with a man who isn't fulfilling her needs or if she's feeling neglected or undervalued, she'll seek that fulfillment elsewhere.

I don't think we can entirely blame women for acting how they act. They're more passive than men with an external locus of control. Men act, women are acted upon.

So as usual, men are in control (or lack control.) It's about leading and attracting them. It's about creating an environment where your woman feels secure and desired. This means never growing complacent.

• Keep focusing on status games and respect like you did early on in the relationship.
• Don't grow indolent with leading. You make most of the plans.
• Push-pull is less important as time goes on, but the principle is always lingering. Don't invest more in her than she invest in you.
• Reward her good behavior and punish her bad behavior.
• Unpredictability is your friend. Routine is the enemy of attraction. Keep her guessing. Surprise her & try new things together.

Women cheat because they want "something else," something they think will give their life adventure and keep it fresh. you can always be that adventure before even the seed of the thought of cheating enters her head. Instead of focusing on what she's doing wrong, look inward at what you're doing right/wrong.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Dread Game.

 

[Captain Rizz]

Dread Game.

Yep. This sounds ugly but I think there's actually more beauty and romance to it than people think, if you really look at the polarity it creates.

 

[Learning Curve]

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Emotional subject.

The problem is; it isn't the easiest and obvious answer that we should be wary of.

We should be wary of the answer that no one likes to talk about, think about or admit.

The easy answer is: Oh, she cheated because he wasn't performing well in the bedroom.

or..

She cheated because he wasn't attentive to her or her feelings.

That is the easy/obvious answer.

The other side to that is: She cheated because she simply wanted to experience another d!ck.

That is the answer we should be worried about.
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Listen, in the beginning of my marriage, my wife treated me like a king.

I was a good boy, at first.

But after a while, no matter how good she was to me (and she was good), no matter how good the sex was (puzzy was the BOMB)..

Despite all of that, I still yearned for new puzzy.

It was the classic "it wasn't her, it was me" thing.

Now, the sad part about it is; some women feel the same way, on the flipside.
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I said all that to say this, we are living in probably the most unfaithful time in American history.

Cheating is the new norm.

Side dudes are winning.

Lies have more virtue than the truth.

Gaslighting is a cheat code (Google "Gaslighting").

And marriage/relationships aren't valued as much as it once was.

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If you get married, and then magically all of the women at work are suddenly trying to holla at you..how long do you think you will last?

Like death & taxes..no matter how long you run or try to hide; sooner or later it is going to get you.
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If a woman is married and loves her husband dearly, but after 10+ years of marriage no matter how good the marriage is, things will get stale..not even including sex.

Her mind will begin to drift, and pretty soon she will accept that "let's go grab a cup of coffee" offer from that guy at work.

And then it is only matter of time.

And then, it happens.

And when it first happens, she will feel guilty and shameful.

But after a while, less and less guilt.. because guilty or not, she can't deny it was a good time.

The angel will tell her..

Angel: That was wrong, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

But the demon will say..

Demon: Yeah, but it was undeniably a good time, wasn't it?

Pretty soon, the demon will prevail.

Then it will continue..

She goes home, and acts normal in front of the husband, and he doesn't suspect a thing.

This kind of shiit can go on for years.

I am about 80% from advising against monogamy and certainly marriage.

Now is not the time for it..and maybe not ever again.

So much truth in this post.

The century now is the century to be alone.

I also advise against monogamy and marriage.

Yes i have a relationship, but my exit strategy is always in place if anything happens.

I know the circumstances and what can happen. Nothing is for certain.

Women cheat the moment they sense weakness on a guy. Even if you provide the best lifestyle, money, security she will cheat if she gets tired of your d1ick.

Reality is reality.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Yes i have a relationship, but my exit strategy is always in place if anything happens.

This is the most gangsta shyt I ever read on here
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[Captain Rizz]

So much truth in this post.

The century now is the century to be alone.

I also advise against monogamy and marriage.

Yes i have a relationship, but my exit strategy is always in place if anything happens.

I know the circumstances and what can happen. Nothing is for certain.

Women cheat the moment they sense weakness on a guy. Even if you provide the best lifestyle, money, security she will cheat if she gets tired of your d1ick.

Reality is reality.

This is a bitter loser mindset. Sorry. A man must have an internal locus of control; he is not simply "acted upon" by outside social forces. Unlike women he creates his own circumstances.

Women are not the enemy. Do not be angry at women.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Yes i have a relationship, but my exit strategy is always in place if anything happens.

If you'd really be secure, you wouldn't need an exit strategy. Unless you see relationships as combat.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

If you'd really be secure, you wouldn't need an exit strategy. Unless you see relationships as combat.

Bullshiit.

You: Hey, LearningCurve, we are at Church. Why did you bring a firearm to Church?

LearningCurve: Because, you never know.

Long story short, be prepared under ANY circumstances...and in his relationship, the man is prepared in case shiit pop off.

Actions to live by.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You: Hey, LearningCurve, we are at Church. Why did you bring a firearm to Church?

LearningCurve: Because, you never know.

@We_ArE_VeNOM : you might have to kill in the name of the Lord.

 

[Learning Curve]

This is a bitter loser mindset. Sorry. A man must have an internal locus of control; he is not simply "acted upon" by outside social forces. Unlike women he creates his own circumstances.

Women are not the enemy. Do not be angry at women.

Firstly, I love women I don't hate them or I'm angry at them. Neither they are my enemy.

I don't act on outside social forces or internal meteors and aliens. I act on real life circumstances and reality.

This has nothing to do with internal locus of control or changing course of action based on random circumstances. if a woman is solid and shows traits that can be trusted then I will show the same traits. It's like tennis you hit the ball and you wait for it to come back. I don't manipulate women. I don't have the time for it.

But I also love myself and I want to be sure my inner-self and psychology is intact if a woman decides to change the course of our relationship and wants to enjoy a new d1ick.

It happen in the past from women who I thought it would never happen because they love me so much. Well in our century unfortunately nobody cares more about you then you do.

When you get ass-f3ucked once and twice you realize you have to change strategy and course of action or you will suffer each time like a cat trying to cross the road hoping a car will not melt her in the process.

If you want to play Russian roulette go and do it. I did it and I died twice.

I'm not saying each woman is the same. Some have better traits then others but at the end of the day your Radar should be as sharp as nail and you should have your sensors polished each day because when something goes wrong you suffer emotionally.

 

[Learning Curve]

If you'd really be secure, you wouldn't need an exit strategy. Unless you see relationships as combat.

Well as Jesus said "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you.”

I don't care about combat, I care about life-peace and easy going women.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I don't care about combat, I care about life-peace and easy going women.

And an exit strategy for when the relationship turns to shyte. Got that, yeah.

 

[Lotus Effect]

She is not yours, it’s just your turn

and

enjoy it while it lasts

are the only realistic things. Anything else is your Disney mind fanficing inside your head