Entitled Women On Online Dating

[QuadDeuces]

I've banged a ton of women from OLD.
Ironically the ones with "Not looking for Sex/ONS" or "Only message me if you are looking for love and a relationship" explicitly mentioned in their profiles are the biggest sluts you can usually fvck on the first date.

I think it's because they have been pumped and dumped so much it's what they subconsciously are attracting.

 

[nismo-4]

Enter the judge.

Find a random internet picture of a woman HB6-7, then make a profile on OLD. Watch how many hits you get the first day...

A whole lot. Did this experiment myself. Hence why women love doing these acts of attention wh0ring. I have yet to meet a guy who loves attention wh0ring.

Even the average women get bombarded with men on OLD, thereby giving them this sense that they actually are worth something. If they were actually hot and level headed, they likely wouldn't even try OLD because guys are hitting on them all the time.

Hot girls do it too because of the attention they get. Remember that men win when they have sex, women win when they get attention. Women walk around with these inflated egos like they're Victoria's Secret Angels, all because of the beta male population.

OLD allows ugly women to get the same amount of attention as hot women do in real life.

Never tell a woman she's attractive. I never do. It's just another use of a pedestal. Always state you're not there to just be friends or her newest Facebook friend. If they ask, tell 'em to piss off.

Read between the lines.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Enter the judge.



Read between the lines.

LOL... I did this one time except in a different setting. I was bored outta my f*cking mind a few years ago....

So I went online and found a pic of a naked fat chick, well maybe not fat but chubby. Rolls were visible. I put the sh*t on craigslist casual encounters and basically said "Hey I'm in town for the weekend and am really wanting to have a one night stand with a guy here.."

It was simple and short AND I sh*t you not I had over 300 responses in my inbox over the next couple of hours. **** pics, shirtless pics, long pages of text. Lots of guys who I would consider attractive and that shouldn't be having a problem meeting a woman. I was in shock.

I genuinely don't think some guys fully understand the power women have in the sex/dating game. It is truly incredible.

 

[nismo-4]

Women get endorphins from the attention they receive. This is why they don't care and this is why they ignore most men. Most of them arent interest in dating. They are only after attention and they are getting it.

The way to fix this is for guys to stop using inline dating. This works the same as the NC Challenge. When you starve them from what they crave the most it puts them off of their game.

We can't have every man stop using online dating and then all these women from online will start wanting to date us a month later. What if you're not the kind of man a woman wants attention from?

A woman's perfect world is one where every man is a muscular millionaire in a Mercedes. Not happening.

For NC or withdrawing attention to be effective, she has to be attracted to you first. Otherwise, she'll just be content with losing a new fan or orbiter.

 

[dude99]

We can't have every man stop using online dating and then all these women from online will start wanting to date us a month later. What if you're not the kind of man a woman wants attention from?

A woman's perfect world is one where every man is a muscular millionaire in a Mercedes. Not happening.

For NC or withdrawing attention to be effective, she has to be attracted to you first. Otherwise, she'll just be content with losing a new fan or orbiter.

I understand change doesn't happen over night. It takes time. It took time for the problem to get this way. It will also take time for things to swing back the other way.

What I would like to see is a change in men that use dating sites. Stop validation. Stop kissing their asssses. Stop telling them how hot they are.

Make girls wonder how you feel. Make them wonder how you think. Don't feed their ego.

I realize change takes time. But it starts with the first step.

 

[unknowncitizen]

What I would like to see is a change in men that use dating sites. Stop validation. Stop kissing their asssses. Stop telling them how hot they are.

If only more men would listen to this advice. Online dating is supposed to be, and was for a time, easy and a way to have an endless supply of women to choose from in addition to the ones you're coming across IRL every day. Over the past two or three years I've noticed a horrifying change in OLD due to exactly what dude99 is talking about and it's ruining what was, in the not so distant past, a great thing.

Stop the validation and being thirsty and you'll make things easier for all of us and feel better about yourself for not being so desperate.

 

[dude99]

For NC or withdrawing attention to be effective, she has to be attracted to you first. Otherwise, she'll just be content with losing a new fan or orbiter.

I think you misunderstood what i meant.
No contact is no longer giving them attention and or moving on. For a paticular girl who at one time did have interest.

. Not validating girls online and feeding their ego, will have the same result as this. Not get them to chase you per say because they don't know who you are, but this:

It gets their hampster wheel spinning. They will wonder what they are doing wrong when men suddenly stop feeding the problem.

Imagine how the attention ***** would react when her inbox no longer had 100 "man you're smoking hot/ i would give anything to be with you/ your my dream girl messages, and suddenly she just gets normal plain "saw your profile. Would like to get together. Date place time." With zero ass kissing.

 

[Roober]

I think you misunderstood what i meant.
No contact is no longer giving them attention and or moving on. For a paticular girl who at one time did have interest.

. Not validating girls online and feeding their ego, will have the same result as this. Not get them to chase you per say because they don't know who you are, but this:

It gets their hampster wheel spinning. They will wonder what they are doing wrong when men suddenly stop feeding the problem.

Imagine how the attention ***** would react when her inbox no longer had 100 "man you're smoking hot/ i would give anything to be with you/ your my dream girl messages, and suddenly she just gets normal plain "saw your profile. Would like to get together. Date place time." With zero ass kissing.

That is really what it is about. It is the men's fault. So many desperate mother truckers out there... I have a old high school friend that does OLD, and she posts stuff of guys telling her she is soooo beautiful, awesome, etc. She is very average (5-6), but you cal tell this crap has gone to her head...

If more men focused on themselves and made sex lower on their priority list, any decent guy would wreck the OLD and real life dating scene. Too many desperate idtios out there... wayyyy tooo many.... I am not going to lie, I used to do much of the same (although not as bad) before I came here...

The most my women get now is "you look fvcking sexy. I hope your not wearing any panties"

Take the thoughts with your head, run them through your testosterone, and let your d1ck speak for you. You won't go wrong... This will turn "OMG, you are soooo beautiful" into "I want to get my d1ck wet"

 

[dude99]

That is really what it is about. It is the men's fault. So many desperate mother truckers out there... I have a old high school friend that does OLD, and she posts stuff of guys telling her she is soooo beautiful, awesome, etc. She is very average (5-6), but you cal tell this crap has gone to her head...

If more men focused on themselves and made sex lower on their priority list, any decent guy would wreck the OLD and real life dating scene. Too many desperate idtios out there... wayyyy tooo many.... I am not going to lie, I used to do much of the same (although not as bad) before I came here...

The most my women get now is "you look fvcking sexy. I hope your not wearing any panties"

Take the thoughts with your head, run them through your testosterone, and let your d1ck speak for you. You won't go wrong... This will turn "OMG, you are soooo beautiful" into "I want to get my d1ck wet"

There is a girl who works part time in my office and she also works part time at hooters, and she is in my friend list on facebook. It is so pathetic watching the thirsty bastards literally beg her for a stitch of acknowledgement.

The other day she asked me "dude howcome you never like or comment on my pictures on facebook?"

I just replied with " when there is a reason to comment or like something i do. Until then why would i?"

It's pretty funny how she tries even harder ton " get attention from me" when i don't feed the beast.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Its funny cause I sometimes see these OLD chicks with some unattractive dudes in real life

 

[nismo-4]

This is exactly why I don't tell a woman she's attractive. I never do. It's just putting her on a pedestal.

The only time that happens is when we're naked having sex. Until then, she's not that attractive. I'll even tell a girl she's not that pretty. May piss them off. Better to have her mad and not be an orbiter than her indiffetent toward you and just wanting to be friends.

I walk on the same ground they do. What, get down on bended knee and worship that ground and her IG selfies? Nope!

 

[AttackFormation]

Theory:

1. Women normally don't want to date strangers, they want to date men who are pre-selected
2. Cold approaching women is in of itself is a turn-off because you are demonstrating a lower social position, the anti-thesis of what women look for
3. When women dream about men, I guarantee you the situation will be about them meeting either by circumstance or because she "accidentally" made it happen, and if not, it will at the very least be by a man who they imagine as pre-selected in their fantasy

Practice:

1. OLD is exclusively a cold approach venue, This means just by messaging her, you are lighting her sensors for the man not being pre-selected
2. Your social position is lowered to dirt, because you are not just trying to win her approval (you can tell yourself you're "just having fun" or whatever, but it's the pvssy you're out after in the end and you know it) but doing so through the lowest social status way of doing it which will also make women think there's something wrong with you


Fundamentally, women don't want to meet men the same way men are open to meeting women. Men also have a sex drive that women use against them to fuel their validation drive, which is their equivalent. Said it before and it can be said again, validation for women is as good as/better than sex.

I don't think men would suddenly start getting sex if only men magically stopped validating women. Men have to beg for pvssy because they aren't wanted (ie. pre-selected) in the first place, and that wouldn't change.

 

[Hedge]

From personal experience I'd say OLD has changed drastically (for the worse) over the past 5 years. When I was still in college, I probably went on 20+ dates from OkCupid. I was still in my blue bill days so I only got laid once, rest were LJBF rejections. However, the fact that I got regular dates suggests that women were way more willing to entertain the idea. OKC and POF are now garage, as far as selection goes (maybe POF was always garbage).

Now a days I'm on Tinder (I'm still in the same location / area) I'm lucky if I can get 1 girl to keep enough interest to go meet up. Generally what happens is the conversations just trail off, the ball was in her court last (conversationally speaking) and I eventually unmatch that **** because I'm tired of all these chicks sitting in my match queue saying last message was 7 (or more ) days ago. Or maybe I just need to work on some kind of Tinder/Bumble game. Hmm

 

[skinnyguy]

Hot girls can have sex with 20 different men per week because of Tinder. Doesn't always work that way for men though. I know girls who bang all kinds of men off these apps, tinder turned the 80/20 rule into the 90/10 rule. You know these girls are only choosing the top notch guys and banging them. A lot of guys will quit Tinder because they can't get any action because of it, and complain that the women are entitled.

 

[MrOctober]

Ive had some decent success with the apps but..

lately I've been slumping. I got one last week actually but still. I literally see the same girls come up week after week on okc and pof local. ill see ones I banged randomly pop back in the mix. The new ones probally get pounced on quick. I agree with the post up there about how they make convos difficult. Tinder/Bumble is my worst one. I think my presentation is off though, pic, etc. I feel like every tier of girl has the exact same swipe patterns too.

 

[ThisNThat]

LOL... I did this one time except in a different setting. I was bored outta my f*cking mind a few years ago....

So I went online and found a pic of a naked fat chick, well maybe not fat but chubby. Rolls were visible. I put the sh*t on craigslist casual encounters and basically said "Hey I'm in town for the weekend and am really wanting to have a one night stand with a guy here.."

It was simple and short AND I sh*t you not I had over 300 responses in my inbox over the next couple of hours. **** pics, shirtless pics, long pages of text. Lots of guys who I would consider attractive and that shouldn't be having a problem meeting a woman. I was in shock.

I genuinely don't think some guys fully understand the power women have in the sex/dating game. It is truly incredible.

That's because the feeling that a vagina provides trumps the woman's appearance. A hole is a hole to a lot of men. They just need something to wet their willy, the obesity is immaterial to them.

Yes, sounds sad when you put it into words, but this explains why men in prison start to think the man wearing lipstick is looking hot to them. They thirst enough, they'll put it in anything.

 

[Wilko]

OK Cupid has done some interesting things recently. They've always been quite "self-aware" as a product in that they're constantly analysing how the site is used and they've put out quite a few reports about that over the years - good reads actually, lots of hard data. Recently (March 2015) they came out and said something to the effect of "Yes, things are getting pretty dysfunctional and we think the way to fix it is to get women to take a more active role in messaging."

Really interesting the way OK Cupid sold the idea to women - because let's face it, messaging a guy first is rather damaging to the narrative most women have in mind. What OK Cupid told women was something like "if you message a guy first you are likely to snag yourself a guy a full 2 points higher in SMV than you otherwise would have".

One of the things they've done recently is to remove the ability to search for "Who's new". Now they claim they did this because the feature wasn't being used - but it's clearly about cutting down on the amount of first week spam a new female user gets. Probably a sound idea.

Link to report: h t t p s://theblog.okcupid.com/a-womans-advantage-82d5074dde2d

The report is designed to be palatable for women, but it actually makes a lot of unfavourable observations about their behaviour on the site - female writer too. Gotta give props where due.

 

[Wilko]

Not the same article, but salient:

"I’m a feminist, sex-positive 21st century lady whose photos include me posing in a Rosie the Riveter Halloween costume. I write about gender on the Internet for crying out loud! But every day, when I log into the dating site of my choice, I play the passive role, the receiver of attention, the awaiter of messages. I go to my inbox and see who wants to talk to me and then I choose to whom I’ll respond. Sometimes I send a “thanks but no thanks” to particularly sweet messages, but usually I’m so overwhelmed by the new things to read and the new choices in front of me that I ignore those nice guys too. Basically, I act like an entitled jerk who can pull puppet strings and make OkCupid dance for me however I please.

This is not the behavior I would expect of a feminist, sex-positive 21st century lady. It’s not behavior I’m particularly proud of either. Why don’t I write messages first? Why don’t I reach out to the dudes with the funny handles and good taste in books, the ones who post pictures with goofy faces and like tacos almost as much as I like tacos? Why do I not respond politely to every message, even the ones I’m not interested in? Why do I alternate between playing the damsel and the playing the demanding entitled a**hole? Because it’s just so easy.

Ugh. I’m embarrassed to have written that. I wish the evidence pointed to something else, something egalitarian and modern, but when I get real with my own online dating M.O., it’s the truth. I’ve sent messages to guys before, sure, but the ratio is small. Ten to one? Twenty to one? Once in a blue moon? I don’t have to, and so I don’t make myself go through the scary exercise of asking for consideration and possibly being rejected or ignored. Why would I put myself through the rollercoaster of the drafting, the editing, the sending, the waiting, the hoping, the checking, and the sighing in disappointment when the fact of my gender (and let’s be real; that’s really all it is) means the attention comes to me? This is not how I want this work, but I condone it with my inaction."

 

[AttackFormation]

OK Cupid has done some interesting things recently. They've always been quite "self-aware" as a product in that they're constantly analysing how the site is used and they've put out quite a few reports about that over the years - good reads actually, lots of hard data. Recently (March 2015) they came out and said something to the effect of "Yes, things are getting pretty dysfunctional and we think the way to fix it is to get women to take a more active role in messaging."

Really interesting the way OK Cupid sold the idea to women - because let's face it, messaging a guy first is rather damaging to the narrative most women have in mind. What OK Cupid told women was something like "if you message a guy first you are likely to snag yourself a guy a full 2 points higher in SMV than you otherwise would have".

One of the things they've done recently is to remove the ability to search for "Who's new". Now they claim they did this because the feature wasn't being used - but it's clearly about cutting down on the amount of first week spam a new female user gets. Probably a sound idea.

Link to report: h t t p s://theblog.okcupid.com/a-womans-advantage-82d5074dde2d

The report is designed to be palatable for women, but it actually makes a lot of unfavourable observations about their behaviour on the site - female writer too. Gotta give props where due.

The problem with articles like that (aside from stuff like claiming 1,5 men for every women means a "relatively even playing field" when if you do the math it has a HUGE effect) is it targets the rational, logic part of the woman's mind and tells them to apply it to dating. That's like telling a fish to apply its fins for climbing, there's just no connection.

 

[Wilko]

The problem with articles like that (aside from stuff like claiming 1,5 men for every women means a "relatively even playing field" when if you do the math it has a HUGE effect) is it targets the rational, logic part of the woman's mind and tells them to apply it to dating. That's like telling a fish to apply its fins for climbing, there's just no connection.

Oh I completely agree. The author's conclusions were sound, but there isn't a hope in hell that women will act accordingly - even if it's in their own self-interest, i.e. get better quality guys if you get off your ass and initiate some conversations.

I think a giant like PoF or OKC could rebalance the playing field if they really wanted to. Tweak the site mechanics to simultaneously starve women of attention, and stop the thirstiest dudes from spamming anything with a vag. Should drastically improve the signal to noise ratio on both sides. Seems obvious, but if there was a solid business case for it you'd think they would have done it by now, right?