Dude tried cold approaching for 10 hours in NYC and got REJECTED

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I think the general consensus among all the posters here is that there’s something off about the demeanor of the guy doing the cold approaches, and that there’s nothing wrong with the environment or the people being approached. Basically, the guy has no social game.

The argument against the "passport bros" is that they overlook the opportunity cost of moving to another country while ignoring the challenges of entering the foreign dating market. (For example, the financial requirements to live abroad, cultural differences, learning a new language, and varying social expectations around dating and relationships.) Essentially, the amount of energy spent relocating to another country might be better invested in dating locally in your own city.
 

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I think the general consensus among all the posters here is that there’s something off about the demeanor of the guy doing the cold approaches, and that there’s nothing wrong with the environment or the people being approached. Basically, the guy has no social game.

The argument against the "passport bros" is that they overlook the opportunity cost of moving to another country while ignoring the challenges of entering the foreign dating market. (For example, the financial requirements to live abroad, cultural differences, learning a new language, and varying social expectations around dating and relationships.) Essentially, the amount of energy spent relocating to another country might be better invested in dating locally in your own city.
Perhaps. However, I don't get the vibe that was his arguement in the video itself. It's more likely he meant something more short term, like a two week to a month vacation trip. That way, if women are treating you differently in these countries, you at least have a positive memory in which to compare the local area with. Not sure if he got rockstar treatment in his home country or Thiland, but he definitely got more interactions with women and felt like a "normal human being" there.

The only thing I don't understand is there was no benefit for him to have visited those countries if he didn't gain any confidence from that experience that could be brought back to the local place. If there is no spill-over of confidence then there is an ego-trip rather than real therapy. It doesn't look like the great memories of those places he visited is giving him a happy vibe with his video.

Great post Clockwerk50. I'm going to have to official unignore you soon if you keep up with the good contributions to my threads. Well done.
 

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Perhaps. However, I don't get the vibe that was his arguement in the video itself. It's more likely he meant something more short term, like a two week to a month vacation trip. That way, if women are treating you differently in these countries, you at least have a positive memory in which to compare the local area with. Not sure if he got rockstar treatment in his home country or Thiland, but he definitely got more interactions with women and felt like a "normal human being" there.

The only thing I don't understand is there was no benefit for him to have visited those countries if he didn't gain any confidence from that experience that could be brought back to the local place. If there is no spill-over of confidence then there is an ego-trip rather than real therapy. It doesn't look like the great memories of those places he visited is giving him a happy vibe with his video.

Great post Clockwerk50. I'm going to have to official unignore you soon if you keep up with the good contributions to my threads. Well done.
Exactly, it's a time value of money issue. If he’s only there for a short trip, it’s a quick ego boost, but no real long-term growth unless he applies that confidence back home.

It's like humping a pillow—it feels good in the moment, but doesn’t lead to anything meaningful. If he doesn’t bring that experience into his local life, it's just a temporary high with no lasting return. Investing that energy into improving his social game locally would likely give him better, more sustainable results.
 

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guy in the video is a 5/10
If he is 5/10 then I am -2/10 and you must be 11/10, Justin Bieber, Leonardo DeCaprio back when he was young. If you go out there right now and ask directions, 10 out 10 people would respond, they might say I don't know, but that still is a response. To get 5 responses in 10 hours, that's something wrong, and that's not something wrong with that guy.
 

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Approaching any random chick by yourself in the streets is a bad idea. You need social proof and a friend to go with you to have a good time…that way it will be less creepy.

I would definitely bring a wing woman to go approaching with me if I were doing that in New York. If I can’t do that, bring a trendy male friend lol. You want to be friendly, giving and have warm vibes.

If you’re going alone, I would definitely hit up venues first instead of the streets. It should be INSIDE, not an outside approach. Go to Bookstores, resto bars, coffeeshops, Starbucks, bakeries etc.

When you get inside, you want to be talking to the employees first and the people there before going to talk to the girl you want. You want to build up social momentum. Get to know her, but don’t be a creep…give her your happy vibes.


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If he is 5/10 then I am -2/10 and you must be 11/10, Justin Bieber, Leonardo DeCaprio back when he was young. If you go out there right now and ask directions, 10 out 10 people would respond, they might say I don't know, but that still is a response. To get 5 responses in 10 hours, that's something wrong, and that's not something wrong with that guy.
He’s been rated, on this forum, so far from 3.5 to 6.5. But ultimately, CA strangers on the street in NYC, the odds are stacked against you.
 

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This video is a nothingburger.

The guy just sits here for 10 minutes complaining, without showing how any of the approaches actually went. This guy just (allegedly) performed this experiment to reinforce his confirmation bias about how awful the US is, compared to Nairobi, Kenya at least.

It's a typical doomer/black pill video with nothing insightful or constructive presented
This is also how the average RP videos are on YouTube now a days, these young men are mentally defeated always whining yet when you point out the obvious (bad dress style, body language, etc) They will whine saying why do I have to do that. The truth is a lot of men just are to soft in this era to win and it's ok every era has had soft men it's just now we are seeing it on display

The world is not nice and if you want to win you gotta fight,, real men know this, low testosterone is also a motivational killer
 

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Most people find it weird if you randomly walk up to them and start trying to talk to them in public for no reason.

New Yorkers in general have a "don't give a fvck" attitude and are fairly short and rude in their interactions while in public especially with people they don't know.

Far more likely to tell someone to "get the fvck outta my face" than to engage with them.

Not sure why this is surprising to anyone who has actually spent any amount of time in NYC.
I lived in one of the boroughs of NYC for the first 37 years of my life, and worked and spent recreational time in four of them, excluding Staten Island.

I used to feel like decking people who asked for money or food if they were on foot and abruptly approached me.

Cold approaching with no IOI is anti-social.
 

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This is also how the average RP videos are on YouTube now a days, these young men are mentally defeated always whining yet when you point out the obvious (bad dress style, body language, etc) They will whine saying why do I have to do that. The truth is a lot of men just are to soft in this era to win and it's ok every era has had soft men it's just now we are seeing it on display

The world is not nice and if you want to win you gotta fight,, real men know this, low testosterone is also a motivational killer
I don't see anybody questioning whether he even did this...

He SAYS he spent 10 hours walking around getting rejected, but we don't see any of that.
 

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I think the general consensus among all the posters here is that there’s something off about the demeanor of the guy doing the cold approaches, and that there’s nothing wrong with the environment or the people being approached. Basically, the guy has no social game.

The argument against the "passport bros" is that they overlook the opportunity cost of moving to another country while ignoring the challenges of entering the foreign dating market. (For example, the financial requirements to live abroad, cultural differences, learning a new language, and varying social expectations around dating and relationships.) Essentially, the amount of energy spent relocating to another country might be better invested in dating locally in your own city.
I've learned that most guy on average who are RP or PUA (from the dozen of guys I met here, as well as other forums in the past) is not their looks, it's not even their game for some of them. It's mindset, confidence and some guys just have that "off vibe" I don't know how to explain but you ever met a person and they just seemed negative all the time and they come off as jaded. Like they try to hide it but it just seeps through and that vibe is a huge turn off to women. Even if they try to hide it or mask it they can't there a few members here who I never met but I can tell that's probably their issue with women when they claim they have issues and keep whining about it.

In my opinion and experience the only way to kill that vibe is to really change your mindset, and confidence and stop the negativity but some guys can't they are to jaded and bitter. No matter how much they try to hide it
 

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I've learned that most guy on average who are RP or PUA (from the dozen of guys I met here, as well as other forums in the past) is not their looks, it's not even their game for some of them. It's mindset, confidence and some guys just have that "off vibe" I don't know how to explain but you ever met a person and they just seemed negative all the time and they come off as jaded. Like they try to hide it but it just seeps through and that vibe is a huge turn off to women. Even if they try to hide it or mask it they can't there a few members here who I never met but I can tell that's probably their issue with women when they claim they have issues and keep whining about it.

In my opinion and experience the only way to kill that vibe is to really change your mindset, and confidence and stop the negativity but some guys can't they are to jaded and bitter. No matter how much they try to hide it
I agree
Women are like cats - kittens really - just want to have fun. Negativity sucks - you don’t have to be a chick to be turned off by that. Guys don’t want that around either. Which further exasperates the issue - RP becomes a loner. Now RP is a negative loner. Good luck getting laid being that.
 

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This is a black guy who did cold approaches for 10 hours. He only managed to get 5 interactions. Most women (ie I assume when he says people), treated him like he was invisible and didn't even acknowledge his presense. If this is the result from a younger guy would easily amog, then the rest of us are doomed, lol

When you have a full-time job, or other real life obligations where do you find the time to invest 10 hours in cold approaching. But, wow, NYC is that bad. That is supposed to be a target rich environment.

He is saying that if you went to Thialand (surprized it's nice for black guy like him too) or Kenya (ie that's believable because he's in Africa) there would be no problem interacting with women there. For a guy like that who travelled to Thialand to say something that again speaks volumes.

What is your thoughts? Did he just have a bad day in cold approaching? Is it even realistic to cold approach if it is that time-consuming? This lead him to feel depressed and have adverse mental health outcomes. It was not a good exercise.
If you walk in with expectations, as opposed to preferences that you're not overly attached to, you'll come across desperate
 

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Although looks don't play a large part, this guy still doesn't look that great. Especially in NYC, he has to have more than looking like a boy. Nothing about his picture says "attractive" or any other trait that would have a woman give him a time of the day in a cold approach. Even if he was white, no one is going to let a guy who looks like a high schooler with atypical facial features just chat them up and give him a chance.

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Viewing daygame through the lense of one day is ridiculous - its like saying "i went to the gym one day and didn't get a six pack omg! gym is a scam"

it took me three months of daygame till i built momentum - of course there were days full of rejection and flakes - there are ups and downs- it took A lot of approaches- took me 600 approaches to get my girlfriend and "date out of my league"


Wrote some free guides of stuff that helped me dating in London:


https://mindful-masculinity.org/202...-in-daygame-and-dating-and-how-to-avoid-them/


https://mindful-masculinity.org/202...improve-smv-for-better-day-game-interactions/


Finding good wingman really helped me too - i wrote a guide on my experience of that here :

https://mindful-masculinity.org/202...hose-starting-out-on-their-seduction-journey/

fixing your social media to decrease flakes- i had a lot of flakes at the beginning due to poor social media profile - wrote some tips here

https://mindful-masculinity.org/202...ial-media-guide-for-dating-and-relationships/

For Motivation:

mindful-masculinity.org/2024/05/07/why-i-believe-daygame-will-always-be-the-best-form-of-dating-for-the-majority-of-men-to-meet-new-women/





For Date Planning and how to execute on the first date :


mindful-masculinity.org/2024/06/11/9-step-first-date-same-day-lay-guide-planning-texting-and-escalating/

Daygame - is fantastic - just because one guy has had a string of blowouts doesn't make it a bad way to meet women -in the same way that just because a fat man gets no matches on tinder doesnt mean that tinder is bad. Your work ethic and dedication to the craft will dictate your results.
 

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I don't think his game was on point but approaching strangers outdoors in nearly any venue is difficult
Especially if one does so without being equipped with a taser, flex cuffs, and van
 

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Cold Approaching is my thang.

Just got a fresh batch of 250 business cards that have my name, #, and email.

I'm handing them out to all attractive women.

Now, sometimes, you will hand your card to a woman and never hear from her.

But, there's nothing like handling out a business card, and a day or two later you get a text..

"Hi, my name is Karla. You gave me your card yesterday. How are you?"

Every man deserves to have that feeling.

:cool:

Anyways, a few points related to the video, and also to some of thing things you yahoos have been saying here...

......

1. Be Honest: Most of you guys are using this video as confirmation bias.

You're already too much of a pu$$y to cold approach women, and this video just confirmed your sentiments.

Just putting that out there.

2. His Results: Are not your results.

Just because he had a bad game, doesn't mean that you will. You have to get out there and gather your own results/data.

Reminds me of once when I told my boss at work an idea I had on starting my own business...and his response..

"Most businesses fail within the first year" (or however long he said).

My response..

"What the fuk that got to do with me and mines?"

:cool:

But, what if you have a bad game(s)...

3. The Game Continues: Cold approaching is a game. It is a game of chance and averages, and numbers. You will have good times, and you will have times that are less than desirable.

But so what?

I've had times where I was 6/20 with successes. But I've also had times where I was 13/25. Hell, right now, I am 1/9.

Either way, you will have highs/lows.

You just have to keep playing the game.

Reminds me of work acquaintance I had..dude was a truck driver and delivered shiit to my store.

A bright young man, he is educated on trading stocks.

He showed me the app on all of his transactions and earnings...some of which was an alarming -$17,000.

Dude lost $17,000 in a very short time!!

I was tripping out on it, but he said..

"I know its a lot, but remember, that is money that I'd previously made in my investments. So, if I lost it; I had it, to lose it".

That did not stop or deter him, and he is still active playing the game and rolling the dice.

As long as you are in the fight, you are in a position to win or lose.

You will lose, but you will win too.

4. His Looks: I see some people here ragging on the dudes looks.

But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Even guys (PUAs) that you'd think women find attractive gets rejected.

MrLocario once stated that (long story short), he went to a sex party and approached an attractive woman to get busy with.

The woman rejected him, at a sex party!!

So he went on his way to find other women.

After a while as he was checking out what was going on in some of the sex rooms, he saw that same woman getting her walls knocked down by a fat, bearded, Santa Claus looking dude!!

The moral of the story is; she apparently liked what she saw in the dude, although our assumptions would have us thinking otherwise.

I said that to say; looks are subjective.

5. HOWEVER: If you find yourself getting rejected, constantly, on a high degree, it may be time to change some stuff in your game, looks, wardrobe, etc.

6. Cold approach is the single best way to get women: Yes, better than OLD, social circles, and choosing signals. I will argue that point to death.

7. Men are supposed to be hunters: We are hunters, by nature. As Miles Cunningham once stated; the only reason any of us men even exist, is because the sperm went AFTER the egg.

The sperm that was you, didn't wait around for any IOIs from the egg.

No, it went AFTER it.

It approached.

So it is ironic that the matured sperm (you) is being more of a puccy than that of which you came from.

I said all that to say, if you ain't cold approaching, you are a beta male pu$$y.
 
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Lookswise he IS a 3,5. He COULD do better though...its just like @BeExcellent said ,gotta be prepared. Dude is skinny, dresses like he is still in highschool and has nothing that says something like " animal". And perhaps that's the real lesson here! Gotta ALWAYS be grinding and working on improving.

If you do look the part you'll get IOI. Makes it easier to do approaching and even rejections will be pleasant..
 
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