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They say all politics is local. If everyone stopped trying to change the world, and focused on changing their little part of it, the world would be changed in no time.

Ideally, there would be no elite. No man would have any power over any other man, and no man would benefit from any man’s labor but his own. Business would be kept on a short leash by the government, and government would be kept on an even shorter leash by the people. The world won't be like this for a long time, perhaps not even in our lifetimes, but we have to believe that it’s possible and do something to help make it a reality, because the only other thing to do is lie back and let the elite have its way with us.

Go POSSE!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_(U.S._movement)

I hear there is a lot of racism in the southern groups, but in the north it's hardcore "Fvck the government, let them come." I like this "group" for it's local government stance and anti-big, corporate goverment ideas, but the racist groups... not so much. I've talked to guys who have obviously been "feeling me out". They went on to rant about politics to see if I was Posse material, but I'm not very political. They'd then go on to be a little more obvious - boasting of their basements having "250 guns of all kinds" and "heck, the guy across the street has 450."

Gotta love the heartland.

Go Posse, GO!

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Of course, maybe you're all being played.

Good disinformation campaigns use sources that people think are independent and therefore trustworthy (e.g., blogs, mildly odd websites that take minute to find).

Likewise, a good way to take down a real independent information campaign is to set up straw men that are absurd. For instance, set up a web site that makes the usual conspiracy claims (which may have some truth to them) and then add in some loony, pointless stuff. You associate the good points with the loony points. When people reject the loony points, they tend to reject the good points along with them (the whole big mess of assertions).
 

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Isn't the idea of an "elite" section of society a natural concept?

I mean, in nature we have alpha males and pack leaders. In society, we have the same. If anything, human society is a lot nicer than Mother Nature. We don't rip each other's throats with our teeth to become president, and people who lose the election don't get eaten.
 

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How does one go about joining the illumanati? :whistle:
its easy, but the dues (giving up your soul to eternal damnation) usually arent worth the meeting refreshments.
 

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It just wouldn't be SoSuave if there wasn't an illuminati thread popping up every few months :rolleyes:

I believe they exist, but only in the minds of foolish populace.
 

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I might disagree on the Alpha Male stereotype, now more than ever. Before, I would accept such theory, lock, stock, and barrel, however, the Alpha Male implies a programmed mentality and a lack of consciousness.

For example, of the many I've known or met, an uncle of mine can be classified as such. He's rich, divorced once now, runs a company, can walk into many bars and know the finest broads, has 5 kids 4 with one women, 1 with another, and has the 'sales' out going mentality. He was a biker in his youth, dumped college as a doctor, shacked up with 2 women, banging them both, fathering a kid with 1, and aborting the other. Now that he's divorced, he's out again. He's super close to his family, to the point you think he boinks his sister and mother. He's a psychotic, in that he's a Narcissist and Ex-Alcoholic. He uses people as tools, as a means to an end. He went from being a generally decent person by appearance, once of success and social qualities, to a basement sucking fiend. I have no respect for him, and were the shoe on the other foot, I wouldn't want to be Alpha whether I am or not to his level for anything; money, women, freedom, power. Not at the expense of all else, his kids, what was a good life, the respect and love of his friends.

In a sense, you take the Darwinian approach of programming versus Free Will. Within a certain frame work, we are inclined to do certain things, but "Personality" without free will to choose is programming to a central computer. Personality, the ego, and society operate as programmed systems. Animals might be this way, but even animals can be manipulated, trained, coraled, caged, and changed. You can't take the stripes off it, but you can alter its behavior and personality.

Having watched an apparently new show on MTV last night dubbed "I Want To be You," it's apparent people can make changes, but it has to be at the BASE of the pyramid, and personality, beliefs, thoughts, ideas, play a LARGER role than the looks, luck, clothes, and money. Add that on to a strong base, and you have a sound pyramid. If you don't, you're still ok, because the base is strong and can stand on its own. But the peak point of the pyramid can't exist without a strong base, so money, clothes, power, have little meaning without the underlying person to support them.

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As far as world control goes...theory suggests a host of ELITE and when ELITE is mentioned, we mean ABOVE the Presidents, world leaders, and KNOWN, flashy rich. Not the Forbes richest people, which are glitzy and glamorous, but the richest who care NOT for exposure, but for POWER, CONTROL, RANKS, SYSTEMS, and the STATUS QUO. Elites who feel a manifest destiny in who they are and what they do. That birth alone entitles all of life's pleasures and also life's rank.

Truth exists that a Rothschild family (named changed to Rothschild, meaning Red Shield) emerged in the mid 1700's with a major and rapid stronghold on banking interests in Europe. They grew rapidly and had 5 sons, that spread out in Europe to grow the banking empire. This is fact, and for those believing "MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND," listen up, because they began amassing wealth LONG before Buffett, Carnegie, Rockefellar, Gates, or anyone was a potential sperm cell to success.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayer_Amschel_Rothschild_family

There wouldn't ever be any service data, because such people don't want to be known. They want to make big bucks, control things like Sim-City, and watch it unfold. As a bank, you loan money, BIG money, so you don't care what happens to the world, especially when you have so many valuable commodities, such as gold, silver, nickel, copper, Euros, Dollars, etc. Can you imagine what 200+ years of GOOD loans would provide in wealth for the host bank? And if you're so super elite...you don't list with Forbes, or the American stock exchanges, or even collect all wealth UNDER one umbrella, you spread it out...so that you don't have a monopoly, and don't raise ANY suspicion, even if you can control anything.

If money makes the world go round, and such people were deemed to be satanists, whether they are or not...wouldn't it be smart to make it appear as if none of it were true?

*Disinformation.
*Feminism
*Pornography
*Legalized booze, but illegalized pot.
*Control of money flows.
*Control of major historical players.
*Financial backing of major wars.
*Misdirection.
*Religious zealouts and infighting.
*Control and manipulation of world's media.
*Control of natural resources.

The list is endless. And it's entirely possible the whole Rothschild idea is a farse, that there is a big player not even visible to throw super-sleuths off the beaten bath. As mentioned before, you can discredit the credible by adding them together and disqualifying the credible WITH the implausible. Even such sites discredit Michael Moore, since he never mentioned the Norad stand down. Alex Jones tried to interview the hefty weighted husky movie maker, but he refused, and went on walking off his most recent Ben and Jerry's calories.

We don't know if this is IT, like it's the Holy Grail or Lost Ark...what you do know is...something is up, and it requires of people a call to action at home. To educate themselves, get involved, and take responsibility. The powers that be don't want you to. They want you to give up civil liberties in return for greater toys, easier lifestyles, more pleasure, the false impression of greater social progress (but for who?). More people confine themselves to homes with direct tv, video games, more food than you could possibly eat in a month or burn off, comfy, lavish, much-too-expensive homes, cushy cars...luxury, luxury, luxury, without work. It's pure pleasure. And people get used to the gushy feelings as if they have to last, and if not, get the latest drug, of fvck the latest infested hore, or get drunk, or smoke, or go the clubs, or charge shyt, like everyday is Sesame Street. They want that, so they can constantly peck away at our freedoms for their goals. Because only we stand in the way of that, and only we can consent to this prison.

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Just get involved. Wake up from your sonambulistic state and come back to where you were born to be.



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Good post.

Consider the Matrix.

We are no longer being "born", we are being "grown". Endless fields of non-thinking batteries for the machine plugged into the media, popular culture, and jobs we hate so we can buy stuff we don't need.

Ooops - that morphed into Fight Club.
 

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A-Unit, tell me this: How can you speak for the masses? You're just one opinion in a sea of endless opinions. Yet you seem to think everyone should live your way of life.

Ironically, you are the one telling us how to live. Will you tell us what to say, what to think, what to eat, and what to write?

All men long to be dictators. You are a man. You've already got 3 of Hitler's traits.
 

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Such lofty praises, diplomatic! Thank you.

*IF* I could force my thoughts on other person (as impossible as that would be, nor would I want to), shall I be so foolish as to expect men or women to willingly follow them like sheeple?

I speak for me. Take what you want, extrapolating it to the "masses", and warp the perceptions, believing that's my intentions, or anyone's intentions.

How many more traits to go until I fulfill the prophecy of Ant-Christ?


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Well, if you only speak for yourself, then obviously none of this Illuminati stuff matters, as long as you're able to live your own life freely.
 

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Why?

But if you control everything, you are only controlling yourself! Why and how does that make sense? Why would any group of want to do this? There has to be something bigger at play.
 

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diplomatic_lies said:
All men long to be dictators.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
wunnaBsmooth said:
But if you control everything, you are only controlling yourself! Why and how does that make sense? Why would any group of want to do this? There has to be something bigger at play.
They seek to control everything so that nothing will control them. The idea is total freedom for oneself and total servitude to that freedom for everyone else, a situation where you are free to do as you please, but all others exist only to labor for your greater glory. Imagine a fox loose in a chicken coop - a slaughter: totally uninhibited indulgence of one's predatory drives - and you'll have a good idea of how the elite's preferred socioeconomic structure would work ... different than the common criminal's dream world only in its use of order instead of chaos, money instead of might making right.
 

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Visceral said:
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Imagine a fox loose in a chicken coop - a slaughter: totally uninhibited indulgence of one's predatory drives - and you'll have a good idea of how the elite's preferred socioeconomic structure would work
The actions of the fox are completely natural, as nature intended.

Same goes for the "elite".
 

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The actions of the fox are completely natural, as nature intended.

Same goes for the "elite".
Tell that to the chickens.
 

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Nature doesn't care about the chickens.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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Then I am forced to conclude that you are a member of the elite. The only logical reason that you could have for supporting their goals and way of life is that you would benefit from their realization.
 

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Well I'm the president of my college chess club, does that count?
 

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LOL about the emo kids ;)

Makes sense. If you have people believing in some vast, unassailable evil, they'll likely ignore the little evils running around right in front of them.

If you read my earlier posts, I'm not your traditional conspiracy theorist. I agree with these other guys that there exists an elite whose goal is to harness all labor to enrich itself, but I disagree about who that elite is and what their ends are. In my mind, they're just a bunch of capitalists using governments to rewrite the rules in their own favor. There's nothing particularly melodramatic about it; it's what any one of us would do if we were in their position.
 

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And thus, ends yet another enlightening thread on conspiracy theories.


Well, at least nobody mentioned Hitler this time.
 

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