Don't go on a second date with girls who don't put out on the first!

[joe henny]

Well obviously she wanted to go slow because she wants a LTR. It wasn't bad because she let me know her interest was high in other ways like driving an hour to hang out with me at my place. I actually dumped her after the 6th date for being a prude, and she came back, and then put out on the next date. Dumping her worked, I had a feeling it would since she had high interest.

Yeah true, If you want a relationship stretch it out make sure she's a good girl...but for a pump and dump I have a three date max rule lol

 

[Lucifero]

Your gonna catch AIDS messing with this rule.

 

[Bluntmaster]

Yeah true, If you want a relationship stretch it out make sure she's a good girl...but for a pump and dump I have a three date max rule lol

Yeah she made me wait 7 dates so at least I know she isn't banging strangers when I'm not around.


Maybe. She could still be doing that.

 

[runner83]

I don't agree with this rule at all. To me, it just shows how insecure you are as a guy.

Some girls, if they are attracted enough to you, will put out on the first date. Some will put out for any guy on the first date...

Ending it after the first date just because she didn't put out (and I don't recall seeing any details in your post about how you tried to lay them, apart from make out against the side of car) is pretty stupid in my opinion.

After 3 dates, yes, it makes sense. But after 1?

That's a sure way to eliminate all the quality women and end up with skanks. Oh well, all the more of the good ones for the rest of us...

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

Cost benefit analysis works good in this area.

If she pays for all the dates, then sure, wait as long as she wants to. Make no difference as long as you have women on the side.

Now if she expects you to pay all the time... Big difference. After 5 dates, you're better off with an escort. And that's not even counting the time spent, time is the most valuable thing in the world.

I give a b*tch 1-4 dates depending on the b*tch.

 

[joe henny]

Cost benefit analysis works good in this area.

If she pays for all the dates, then sure, wait as long as she wants to. Make no difference as long as you have women on the side.

Now if she expects you to pay all the time... Big difference. After 5 dates, you're better off with an escort. And that's not even counting the time spent, time is the most valuable thing in the world.

I give a b*tch 1-4 dates depending on the b*tch.

BM!! where you been homie?

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

BM!! where you been homie?

Hey Joey, whats up! I'll be back on zenmack tomorrow, I like a week or two off every now and then.

 

[Open5]

This is in the right direction to avoid time wasters, but I would extend it out to around 3 (and not more than around 4 or 5) because it could depend on some other variables such as where the first "date" takes place and the logistics, so if the vibe is good then going out a few more times is ok as long as we are making attempts to escalate more each "date."

Also, personally I luv sluts. There is a difference between sluts and skanks. My views of this is based on how I define these terms. Skanks are dirty and are to be avoided. My definition of slut is someone who enjoys sex and feels free to openly express their natural sexuality. From my oppressively religious upbringing I had to always repress natural sexuality. A man and a woman should be able to express their sexuality in healthy ways. A man or a woman can be a slut in my definition if they genuinely feel free to enjoy openly expressing their natural sexuality. Like Zarky has said before, I also cannot understand why so many guys are trying to shame sluts by calling women sluts as if it's a bad name. To me slut is a good name. When I got into Game I thought guys were learning how to get laid, so therefore I would think more guys would have no problem with "sluts" because it would more easily facilitate getting laid, but this seems to be something most guys still have issues with and I don't totally understand why (unless these guys are looking to get married which surprisingly to me it seems that most guys do eventually want to get married so that must be a big part of it. This wasn't to further any debate, it was just a few of my thoughts about this.

 

[backbreaker]

**** I don't put out on the first date. i don't know what the hell is crawling inside a girl or if she has a T virus or some ****.

 

[floydb25]

Crap advice. If you want to make it easier - don't even go on a date at all. Just have sex. You don't have to date sluts. They're usually not interested in that ****, anyway. It turns them off. They just want to ****, and will generally make their intentions known. They don't waste any time. The decent girls will wait until they get to know you a little better. You can also have multiple short dates before anything happens. As long as you escalate each time, its all good. It's best not to rush into anything, anyway. Makes THEM want it more, especially if you're not phased by it. The rewards are plentiful.

What is the point of this thread?

 

[Jariel]

I respect girls who don't put out on the first date. Those are usually the types I see as quality women and relationship material.

 

[Jariel]

I respect girls who don't put out on the first date. Those are usually the types I see as quality women and relationship material.

 

[MM92]

I like a challenge, if a woman puts out on the first date, to me she is easy and isn't worthy of my time.

yep

 

[ka_mate]

I respect girls who don't put out on the first date. Those are usually the types I see as quality women and relationship material.

Yeah I agree with Jariel on this one.

Personally, I don't agree with this notion but I am very interested in how this turns out for you. I'm expecting a report and analysis of how this works from you in about 6 months. Perhaps, you can try and convince us all of its benefits then

 

[ArcBound]

Holy sh!t a lot of people making the recent comments are stupid as fvck.

Zarky explicitly states he wants poon and lots of it in the first post.

Then we have a chorus of guys coming in with a whiny voice "But you won't get a quality girl or relationship material, or she's a slvt and will have AIDS!"

It's fine if you want a relationship, but some people want to have sex and you have to stop imposing your opinions on them. Nobody cares.

 

[Open5]

I'm a new member of SoSuave because I was on the site the other day and I just happened to see that two guys I read their blogs were on here, Zarky (matingmarket) and Rollo (rationalmale), and to continue to read more of their SoSuave posts I had to sign up to SoSuave. I didn't know that responding to posts makes it show up as active and that tends to bring some people who may not be serious about learning/becoming better at Game out from under their desks. Therefore, any of my comments on SoSuave are basically for myslef/the OP/and anyone else who is a mentally stable mature man who is serious about Game. On most blogs/forums their seems to be maybe 10 people who can intelligently talk about Game/maybe 100 who genuinely have open minds and really want to learn and improve/maybe 500 who are trolls that go all over bashing OP's and other commenters or who are just "not very with it or are very silly."

Thanks for your comment ArcBound. People, including in Game, have different goals. Complaining or making "silly" statements is usually not going to benefit a ONS/LTR/or Marriage. I'm not promoting it, but there is some posts by Rollo on rationalmale more about this topic, etc.

In my view, the point of this topic (for the few people who are actually attempting to improve at Game and maybe actually getting physical with some women) is a lot of guys go on a "date" and never even make an attempt at making any kind of physical move and nothing happens and maybe she gets bored and then won't even go on a future date again or put you in her friend zone. I used to believe that anything physical was mostly for the wedding night. If the man doesn't gradually escalate physical moves (kino, etc), then there might not even be a date 2 or more future dates and nothing is going to happen. So, while most guys could extend this type of mindset out to like 7 dates or whenever, one point to this mindset of escalating is to see how interested/receptive she is to you and then you can decide what to do from there and you are screening her to see if you would even want to go on future date(s).

 

[Jariel]

Then we have a chorus of guys coming in with a whiny voice "But you won't get a quality girl or relationship material, or she's a slvt and will have AIDS!"

Wow, you're quite the drama queen!

My problem with the original post is that this guy is trying to tell us that we should ditch potentially cool, fun and quality women, just because they're not easy. He doesn't consider the fact that you might actually enjoy dating a girl, going to new places, getting to know each other, kissing and flirting, and just generally appreciating the whole experience.

I've banged a lot of women on the first date, but after a while it gets to be unfulfilling and I soon realise these women aren't worth keeping around. On the other hand, I've dated women who are more classy, fun to talk to and go out with and who I will have sex with many times over, each time better than the last.

It's just really bad advice from the OP that he seems to have written on a whim. Even if his goal is to get laid, why does it have to be the first date? Why can't he wait until the 2nd or 3rd? Even some of the slvttiest women have their defences up and won't put out straight away.

 

[ArcBound]

Wow, you're quite the drama queen!

My problem with the original post is that this guy is trying to tell us that we should ditch potentially cool, fun and quality women, just because they're not easy. He doesn't consider the fact that you might actually enjoy dating a girl, going to new places, getting to know each other, kissing and flirting, and just generally appreciating the whole experience.

I've banged a lot of women on the first date, but after a while it gets to be unfulfilling and I soon realise these women aren't worth keeping around. On the other hand, I've dated women who are more classy, fun to talk to and go out with and who I will have sex with many times over, each time better than the last.

It's just really bad advice from the OP that he seems to have written on a whim. Even if his goal is to get laid, why does it have to be the first date? Why can't he wait until the 2nd or 3rd? Even some of the slvttiest women have their defences up and won't put out straight away.

He doesn't consider it because from the very first post in this thread he makes clear what his goals are. If you read the first fvcking post you would understand this.

Good for you if you want to date classy women at this stage in your life. He wants hot pvssy, he doesn't give 3 fvcks about dating quality girls who are fun to talk to.

 

[Jariel]

He doesn't consider it because from the very first post in this thread he makes clear what his goals are. If you read the first fvcking post you would understand this.

Good for you if you want to date classy women at this stage in your life. He wants hot pvssy, he doesn't give 3 fvcks about dating quality girls who are fun to talk to.

He says his goals are for all of us men to do the same as him. I understand it just fine. I just think it's dumb.

You know, it's not one or the other. You can date quality women who are hot and will fulfill all your fantasies, over and over again. That to me is a lot more fulfilling, both mentally and physically, than a one off fumble with some random slvt.

If that's what he's after, then I wish him luck, but passing this off as advice is just ridiculous.

 

[Zerro]

**** I don't put out on the first date. i don't know what the hell is crawling inside a girl or if she has a T virus or some ****.

Nor do you know if she's some psycho broad who's going to cause problems for you afterwards. I've turned down a few potentially very easy lays for these sort of reasons, I want to know more about the chick first.