Does Tall Dark and Handsome have its appeal anymore? (my experience)

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OP, seriously, if you want white girls so bad, your best bet is to get white girls that hang out with other people of your ethnicity or have an interest in your culture. The typical all american white girl is unlikely to be interested in you or other non-whites, generally speaking. You're basically looking for outliers only so your success rate will be less than 10%. Most women are more likely to get with an unattractive person of their own race, than an attractive person of another race; simple fact.
 

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Funny... I was literally just at the Atlanta airport (twice), and was getting stares & smiles from plenty of "white girls"... as well as in NC (where they also approach, compliment & conversate), and WI (where I went to visit, which is far more aggressive and sexual in nature). Maybe you're just not attractive, awkward, have a **** personality, don't have a cool / sexy social vibe, can't attract people to you (ie, are unlikeable and annoying), and suck at life. Which we've already established - long, long ago.

And, as I've said many a time, we have the same skin tone (in the summer, or damn near all-year round over here), come from the same area (nationality wise), AND are both in the south. You think there's lots of Iranians roaming around, or there isn't racial backlash towards me (at least until I dish it back, and they stop)? Definitely in the minority - and always was. But still can attract people to me without issue.

You're just a chump... which exists in every race. You see all those shy, unassertive, awkward, "weak", skinny white kids wandering around with no style or great social ability? They have minimal (if any) friends; go unnoticed by women... Yea, that's you. Except they're not always whining, and pissing people off in the process - and are therefore not bothersome (unlike you). Even if you pulled a Michael Jackson - you still probably wouldn't attract any women OR men.
 

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You're the wrong kind of dark, troll
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It doesnt matter where you go, If your a good looking guy, You can game anywhere.
 

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every race and nation has its share of ugly and attractive people, if you havent figured that out by now then there really is no hope for you

face it, if women arent receptive to you its because you are not attractive, if you looked like denzel washington there would be women of all races wanting to be with you even in the most racist and backwards parts of america

hit the gym and clean yourself up the best you can, thats all you can do
 

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OP, I saw the picture you posted on one of your threads.

Honestly, with your looks + apparel choice...you're not going to land any Southern Belles any time soon. That's just the way it is.


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Funny how some of these Brown guys want to come in and brag about how well they do with women in these Southern states when I went to a high school which was mostly White, Brown, and Asian. I also see a lot of Brown guys and White girls and I have never seen the two date each other. A lot of these Brown men in the south are fairly Americanized and rich too (lots of Indian and Asian doctors) but they usually marry their own race or another minority group, never White girls. In fact outside of Sanjay Gupta, I have not known or seen one Brown guy with a White girl here ever and I go out to bars, I sarge, and all I do all of that ****.

Of course those white girls you talk of smile at you, especially at airports its common courtesy, but unless you have scored you need to shut up.

So a message to all these players (as they call themselves) who talk about area not mattering and having success with women here in the south, why don't you put up some evidence or show yourselves? You can see walking around in Atlanta throughout July, we can even arrange a meetup at any bar you want and I will see how much all of you are full of **** and not having anything close to success down here.

I acknowledge looks and game matter but location is everything. Pick the wrong location and you will struggle even if you look like a Bollywood actor and have the Great Gatsby lifestyle as the poster on page 1 says.
 
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OP forget about it move. Like you said, only that white "frat" look gets ANY top tier southern belles here. Ignore these posters trying to put you down OP. maybe they just don't live in the DEEP Cotton South(Miss,Bama,GA) it is good ol' black and white down hear in these parts ya' know it youngin'. That Southern Hospitality don't come in brown or yellow. The only minority that pulls down here consistently, PERIOD are blacks. Especially in ATL area since us blacks have such a huge privelage there. If your Asian, Indian, or Hispanic you're not desirable period. I know an Indian dude in my city who is 6'1+, runs the biggest non-Greek party in the state(yes like Gatsby), has a 3.7+ GPA, has social proof out the ass, yet girls refuse to touch him for whatever reason.

Also the only Asian/Indian girls who I see with Asian/Indian men are old, like 40+. The younger ones? Forget about it, if she ain't FOB they all go with white/black dudes.

I ain't making excuses for OP or orientals at all, nor am I putting blinders over my eyes when it comes to what I see. No matter if its the rural or metro areas here in the south Asian/Indians/Hispanics get overlooked compared to the treatment they get in other regions. Especially Hispanics, when you consider what they can pull out in the West and the NY/NJ area.
We had a California Blonde that visited my state and I was able to get her number, she was interested but back then I was too big of a wimp to progress or escalate.

My thing with the south is that being a good looking Indian dude, I get so much attention from Black, Asian, and Indian women and I have no issues with the Latinas. The thing about the White girls that I do notice is that if they are foreign or not from the state, they will try any kind of race of guy. Now the attractive sorority girls, most of them won't even try a Black guy, sorry to break it to you man but I know a good looking muscular Black guy who is 6"2 and still gets rejected by those kinds of girls.

When that guy was out in California he would pull like there is no tomorrow, showed me some pictures of the girls he was with and a lot of them were legit 7s and up. This guy is a good looking guy (no homo), friendly, outgoing, and has some of the best game I have seen but I see these Southern Belles turn him down for the pasty poorly dressed White fraternity kid.

Classic case of life being unfair right there. I mean you start to lose hope and get a new perspective on things when that happens. I hit the gym, I dress right (no that purple shirt was me getting a quick pic), and I do everything to put myself out there. Now I have gotten laid but these girls down here in the south aka these Southern belles will not open up to you if you are not their typical White fraternity kid.

Then you come on here to seek a solution to your problem only to have these guys who probably haven't had life experience tell you that you are just whining. Give you the same basic advice of just learning game and blah blah blah.
 

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Funny how some of these Brown guys want to come in and brag about how well they do with women in these Southern states when I went to a high school which was mostly White, Brown, and Asian. I also see a lot of Brown guys and White girls and I have never seen the two date each other. A lot of these Brown men in the south are fairly Americanized and rich too (lots of Indian and Asian doctors) but they usually marry their own race or another minority group, never White girls. In fact outside of Sanjay Gupta, I have not known or seen one Brown guy with a White girl here ever and I go out to bars, I sarge, and all I do all of that ****.

Of course those white girls you talk of smile at you, especially at airports its common courtesy, but unless you have scored you need to shut up.

So a message to all these players (as they call themselves) who talk about area not mattering and having success with women here in the south, why don't you put up some evidence or show yourselves? You can see walking around in Atlanta throughout July, we can even arrange a meetup at any bar you want and I will see how much all of you are full of **** and not having anything close to success down here.

I acknowledge looks and game matter but location is everything. Pick the wrong location and you will struggle even if you look like a Bollywood actor and have the Great Gatsby lifestyle as the poster on page 1 says.
Stop being an idiot. No sexy, tall confident famous Indian guy will ever attract one of those true Southern Belle blondes that are former presidents of their sorority, involved in their "community social network", and were raised in the Deep South with a confederate heritage.

Those types of girls go for the blonde fraternity men who are in top tier fraternities at schools such as the University of Alabama who are involved in SGA, the community and campus affairs, and grow up to be potential future governors.


So yes, location does matter... You're obviously daydreaming of the wrong girls. And like I said again, if you even want a 3% chance of even landing these girls....change the way you dress. You look like a FOB in the picture you posted.


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Oh but all of these PUA guys on forums who happen to be Indian are getting laid in the deep south, why can't I do it. There must be something wrong with me, it can't be confederate south, game can get you laid anywhere right.

On a more serious note, I don't dress like that, I rock the Ralph Lauren bro.

I have seriously considered a move after I am done with school and I am confident it will change my luck with girls who are White. Right now I am thinking some states like Minnesota and Iowa that are politically balanced, whitest states in the country, and states where my exotic looks will make me stand out. I have heard success stories about Indians living in these states and met one online who was dating a gorgeous blonde of Scandinavian heritage.

Like I can see why being Indian can be working against me here in Atlanta, there are so many Indians here and most of them are FOBs. As a result I might want to avoid Canada and the UK where girls are not that thrilled by seeing a handsome Indian guy.
 

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Man, you're so full of ****... I know the difference between courtesy and attraction... I'm not retarded. And it's not just being conceited, because male acquaintances I go out with have said this girl is checking you out, staring at you the whole time, laughing at everything you say, all googly eye'd, she's clearly interested, and so forth.

When I first came here on vacation with some friends (no intention of staying, at the time), I immediately picked up 2 white girls for them, at a club 20 miles from here. One was very attractive; a "hot blonde". White girls are always staring, smiling, wanting to conversate, be around me, etc... no different than it was up north. The "lack of southern hospitality for minorities and browns" is also BS. Chicks, especially, are exceedingly nice to me down here... moreso than guys (though they are helpful in a courteous, neutral manner).

It's always been this way; nothing changed coming down here... except the women are more traditional and reserved, and expect you to initiate interest in them. They're also not as aggressive or sexual. But they're not stuck up or closed off, and make it easy for you to conversate with them. ****, they conversate with YOU 90% of the time.

When I put up a dating profile online over here - 85% of the messages I received (but couldn't read, as you had to pay... **** that) were from white girls... even from neighboring states, such as SC, Virginia, etc.

It's not this way with everyone, however - and isn't up north, either. There's guys I talk to of ALL RACES (including whites) down here that receive no looks, no compliments, no conversation openers, no "hospitality", or going out of ones way for, no nothing. They also get rejected and flaked on / blown off a lot. Women act like they don't exist - because they're not attractive to them. It's this way EVERYWHERE. The only difference is, there's more colored guys down here, and so, their failures are noted as well. Up north, damn near everyone was white, but not everyone was successfu... not even close.

****, when I was up north - only maybe 2% of the guys I knew were getting anything... and they were all white. Everyone else was complaining about how unfair it was. Every job I had, there were white guys who couldn't attract ****; girls had no interest in them. It's not like, if you're the same race - you automatically shack up together. I see white guys all over the place down here with no women.

You can be fairly attractive to good looking (and a lot of people are), but unless you're considered (and are told, by the opposite sex) that you're hot / sexy, you won't be getting much... especially not from very attractive women. You certainly won't be getting approached, and will get rejected / avoided often. I see (and hear about it, from guys) EVERYWHERE.

OTOH, if chicks as a whole dig you, it doesn't matter what race or color you or they are. Lick my ass if you believe otherwise, 'cause it's true. Like I said when you first trolled on here, I knew racist white girls who HATED blacks, but said they would still date them if they were "hot" - and some of them did. That's all bishes care about.

Anywhoo, most of those guys I knew up north ended up with average to cute girls to shack up with - as they couldn't date around, play the field, land hotties, etc. Or they just lied about their successes, and brought everyone else down who actually was successful (ie, pretenders and haters). Yes, they got with "white girls" and were white themselves, but that's the majority up there. They can't date the air...

Go up north once, and see how successful you are. I bet nothing will change.
 
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I see White guys in Atlanta that are overweight but manage to score with girls who are White because they have fraternity connections or something along those lines. When I see the guys who get called handsome and good looking, they are almost always White. Yes, you know White men that get no attention, because they don't try to get laid,

Again, I have been all over the place here in Atlanta and gamed with these so called Indians and Asians and Arabs who are not supposed to meet the stereotype of their race. It isn't like these guys aren't getting any, they have black, asian, and brown girls check them out but White girls here are an entirely different story.

I call bull**** on your whole story of having been to Atlanta, the only way it is true is if you are a minority male that looks extremely White (like Zinedine Zidane or something). On that hand you don't really count. But if you look ethnic (like Kal Penn, John Cho, etc.) and you are having success with White women in Atlanta I want to find you because I have looked over this whole city for you.

Some guy is going to come on here and make up stories about being successful with Southern Belles but when I go out I never see that guy. I want to see more of these Indian guys from the PUA world who claim to be successful with attractive White women because I live in Atlanta, a city with A LOT of Indian men and A LOT of attractive White women. I have never seen an Indian guy out with a White girl let alone an attractive one. Same with Middle Eastern (the ethnic looking ones) and Asian men.

I have visited states like California where within a few days there I saw some couples like that.

So seriously, you guys need to quit being keyboard jockeys and making **** up, I mean all Indian and ethnic guys out there. When I go out I never see these Indian players with White girls, ever.
 

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Moment Viscosity said:
It isn't like these guys aren't getting any, they have black, asian, and brown girls check them out but White girls here are an entirely different story.
Then what's the problem? If you're black, asian, brown and you get those women then why do you need or feel entitled to white women? Lots of white guys only have success with white women even though they're interested in Asian and latin women. The difference is they don't cry about it. Wha I can't get Asian women :cry:. Wha I can't get latin women :cry:. No one has to be interested or attracted to a different race. If anyone should be crying it's white guys, as white women statistical interracially date more than any other race. Around here non-white girls almost never date white guys.
 
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if you are a White guy and you cannot get with non-White girls I am sorry man there is something wrong with you, like seriously ****ed up with you

you are promoted the most by media
white men are most loved when it comes to looks

and if you cannot get with a beautiful non-White girl it is your problem

and no, white women do not date interracial that much, a small number might date black men where I live but the rest of them strongly prefer white men
 

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Even the governor of Louisiana knows better than to go for white girls!
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

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Moment Viscosity said:
if you are a White guy and you cannot get with non-White girls I am sorry man there is something wrong with you, like seriously ****ed up with you

you are promoted the most by media
white men are most loved when it comes to looks

and if you cannot get with a beautiful non-White girl it is your problem

and no, white women do not date interracial that much, a small number might date black men where I live but the rest of them strongly prefer white men
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If anything white males are the butt of every joke in the media. You got it all backwards. White women are statistically more open to interracial dating. If white males were in general more desired and it was easier for them to date interracially, white males would be monopolizing non-white women, but you don't see that at all.
 

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See, there's no point in arguing, because you just discredit everything people say - based on what YOU experienced and saw. That's pretty normal, though, so I can't blame you entirely. ****, when I used to talk about my successes in real life, people would just say "yeah right; you're not; you're just; you think; you didn't", and try to minimize and discredit everything - based on how things occur for them, and how they wanted things to be (ie, them better than everyone else, or at least on the same "level"). Some of these guys would even SEE my successes in action, and STILL make up excuses and try to minimize to the best of their ability - all to preserve their own ego, and make it seem like I'm just conceited. As well as compete over everything, and nitpick any perceived flaws and failures, and try to TELL me how things actually occurred - which had no basis on reality. It's only how they wanted things to be, and therefore, how they deluded themselves into believing they were. It always ended up with everyone else lying and exaggerating - while they themselves lied and exaggerated to claim superiority over them. That's how unsuccessful guys are, though... especially when it comes to their own insecurities and failures. They'd even get ANGRY when they couldn't keep me beneath them, or sabotage my successes. I've been through all that before.

I don't know many ethnic guys with white girls either, tbh, but there are always exceptions. And yes, white women HAVE said things like "you're very attractive; you turn me on; hey good looking; ok sexy; you're so cute", and so forth. As well as aggressive sexual advances. So, it's not just hot air, or making things up.

In regards to Atlanta - I was only at the airport, inbetween flights. Wasn't in the actual city, and didn't "game" anyone. Down here, there are no frats, and it's not a city environment. There's a lot of military, though.

In regards to looks: you said yourself that I look like Zinedinebambawhatever - which you just now say would be an exception. Though I have argued (and many women have said) that I'm a pretty boy. But in the summertime, I get pretty brown, and many people have said that I look mexican or italian.
 
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Stagger Lee said:
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If anything white males are the butt of every joke in the media. You got it all backwards. White women are statistically more open to interracial dating. If white males were in general more desired and it was easier for them to date interracially, white males would be monopolizing non-white women, but you don't see that at all.
These are one of the posts that almost make you come to your senses that most people on PUA forums seem to not step outside of their houses. I see White men in my area and other areas dating latina, asian, and black women in high numbers. It is even a running joke that Asian women love White men more than their own men.

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look at all the sex symbols in our culture, all White males. All young girls crazy for Ryan Gosling or Chris Hemsworth. As a White guy, all you have to do is approach a beautiful girl of any race and when you get rejected it is for bad game or bad looks.

As an Indian, if you have 9/10 looks and good game you will still get rejected by beautiful White women for just being Indian.
 
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I know what you are trying to say, when you have success people become jealous. It happens to a lot of people and they get haters but you see sometimes people get more pissed at those that lie about their success (eg: Roosh V and his forum members). Like I have dealt with hate when I have managed to get a good looking Latin girl interested in me or when I was somewhat escalating with that California blonde. Sometimes I notice the hate comes from other Indian guys who get the whole "why is he having success but not me" mentality, Indians do that a lot.

Italians are not Brown people and should not be associated with Mexicans, almost all Italians are White people.

I have no issues with another man having success, as I have said, I have gone from being foreveralone to having lays (mainly from non-White girls). My problem is misinformation. People told me that in Atlanta there were so many Indian players and White girls are cute and have a thing for an ethnic looking guy that has game, style, and looks. Having been in this city I can tell you what people told me is a bunch of nonsense and load of crap. I have yet to meet one Indian player here that does well with White women, in fact as I have noted, I have lived here for a while and have yet to meet an Indian guy - White girl couple. Oh but all these forum guys will make up some bull**** story of an Indian guy they know who dates a White girl, ya whatever.

Hell, I wish most guys on here were successful with women (white and non-White) so as a result they could give me suggestions on where to go if I want to game White girls for the best results and what to do differently with them than I would do with other races.

Like I legitimately want there to be successful Brown Players out there, this gives me hope as a man. If there were more Asian, Latino, Indian, and Middle Eastern players that I know of (only know of one Latino player), then I would feel motivated and not get all jealous. I would be like "hay this Indian guy is killin it with the White girls, the problem is me".

But the thing, as I have told you, I have been in Atlanta for a while. We have rich Asian and Indian doctors that are Americanized and look good, Latino guys that lift and look good, and some Middle Eastern men who look good and are not shy to talk to women (no homo for all the look good statements). You don't know how it feels like to know that these men are failing hard with White women while some pasty fraternity kid with a heavy southern accent is getting the women me and a lot of guys find attractive.

At that point you throw up your hands and say "**** this the location is the problem". Now I don't know how California is like for example but I am pretty sure a ripped Latino guy who can talk to women and has game would do better than a pale White kid in a fraternity with a heavy country accent in most cases there.

Now this thread was about looks. When it comes to looks, I notice that usually blonde men and white men with pale skin and brown hair get way more attention for their looks than a swarthy looking guy.
 

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Moment Viscosity said:
As an Indian, if you have 9/10 looks and good game you will still get rejected by beautiful White women for just being Indian.

wrong, my good friend is an indian guy, he is dating an attractive white girl right now, and has also dated white women in the past

he isnt the indian guy who looks like a virgin engineering student though, he does martial arts and is in good shape
 

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