Does it really get better for men with age?

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Look at the recent revelation about Hugh Hefner's bunnies. They ****ing hated the sick old creep.
End result was the same.
 

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Actually winning does make you more masculine. When men succeed in competitive activities, their testosterone literally goes up. The loser's testosterone goes down. Are you actually trying to argue that successful pro athletes aren't more masculine?
Testosterone is a key component for masculinity, but it's not the only ingredient
 

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Look at the recent revelation about Hugh Hefner's bunnies. They ****ing hated the sick old creep.
Playboy Bunnies were a hot item while Hefner was still alive. After his death, Playboy Magazine floundered and the Bunny Status dropped like a stone. Now these washed up bunnies are resentful for not getting the validation they crave and try to get attention by bad-mounting Hefner.
These girls are true 304s, hooking up with Hefner to leech on his status and get in his magazine, maybe even marry him. Sure, they all 'hated the old creep'.
Know your sources.
 

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You can look at ol Hugh Hefner in 2 ways...I mean,on the one hand he was shagging gorgeous fit birds a fraction of his age....on the other,he must have known they didnt really fancy him and it was all about $$$ and the associated fame...but he was still rattling em so...so its good on him and high fives or sad old git...maybe its both..dunno
 

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You can look at ol Hugh Hefner in 2 ways...I mean,on the one hand he was shagging gorgeous fit birds a fraction of his age....on the other,he must have known they didnt really fancy him and it was all about $$$ and the associated fame...but he was still rattling em so...so its good on him and high fives or sad old git...maybe its both..dunno
nothing wrong with it. But you don't need to be Hugh hefner and be famous and rich
You can bang 18 year old hot Hungarian/Polish hookers here for about £90 if you want lol
Same thing
 

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nothing wrong with it. But you don't need to be Hugh hefner and be famous and rich
You can bang 18 year old hot Hungarian/Polish hookers here for about £90 if you want lol
Same thing
Youth and beauty is apparently only worth £90. How much is a successful, wealthy older man worth? I think a lot more than £90. Just a different perspective on things :)
 

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You can look at ol Hugh Hefner in 2 ways...I mean,on the one hand he was shagging gorgeous fit birds a fraction of his age....on the other,he must have known they didnt really fancy him and it was all about $$$ and the associated fame...but he was still rattling em so...so its good on him and high fives or sad old git...maybe its both..dunno
Every 'Playmate' willingly signed up for the privilege. Far as I know, no woman was ever coerced to become a Playmate and they could always leave if they didn't want to play by Hefner's rules. I cannot feel it in my heart to care about their plight of having 'lost themselves' trying to conform to the desires of old men in order to try and get their own celebrity status.
 

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Playboy Bunnies were a hot item while Hefner was still alive. After his death, Playboy Magazine floundered and the Bunny Status dropped like a stone. Now these washed up bunnies are resentful for not getting the validation they crave and try to get attention by bad-mounting Hefner.
These girls are true 304s, hooking up with Hefner to leech on his status and get in his magazine, maybe even marry him. Sure, they all 'hated the old creep'.
Know your sources.
EXACTLY what I Was about to say ..
 

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A 25 year who has accomplished these things IS MORE MASCULINE then someone that took 10 more years. Getting old doesn't make men more masculine. This is an extreme cope. Actually testosterone and physical stamina peak during the 20's. An alpha 25 year old will be that much better in ten years precisely because he is alpha.
Having been 25 myself, and also older (43), I would have to TOTALLY disagree. The masculinity I have now makes the 25yr old version of me seem like an infant (and I was good looking, successful, etc etc from my teen years, so it is not about that).

People that are actually masculine (Something that cant be measure by how much hair you have, your physical stamina, or bank balance, or testosterone level) know what I am talking about. Others will be chasing shadows ...

We are all going to get older one day, luckily, as the saying goes, men age like fine wine .. and women like milk ;-)
 

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It's getting worse for men. That abundance of 40 something unmarried women are ****ing much younger men, and it's exploding. Why? Because they can. Every virile young man has had affairs with hot 40+ year old MILFs and perfectly understand this.
The increase in men 18-25 having sex with 35+ women has been steadily going up since the 2000s, when I was in the 18-25 age range. It was starting to become a thing in the 2000s.

Most 40 something women, including 40 something women with children, are able to have sex with an 18-25 year old man rather easily. They won't get a long term commitment from him, but a 43 year old woman with 2 kids isn't looking for commitment from some 23 year old man.

They don't need your money and they certainly don't want "a powerful strong man" telling them what to do, which is precisely why they made it to 40 unmarried.
Most women get married before they turn 40. Most of the 40 year old unmarried women have been previously married. A woman turning 40 years old now is a Millennial. Even with the common narrative about Millennials not getting married, I would guess that most women born in 1983 or 1984 have been married at least once. Plenty of 1983-1984 born women who are single have been divorced.
 

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I think what's funny is how these stats are mostly about average men. I thought the idea behind SoSuave was to help men to become exceptional men. Why look at average men statistics?

Does it really get better for men with age?
No, it doesn't if you're an average man. But who wants to be an average man?
I said that recently in another post, the biggest change I've noticed on this site in the last 10-15 years is that a lot of guys are complaining without putting in the work. It's like guys know all the RP talking points and tropes but when you ask them what they are doing to improve their situation they get defensive or they are not doing shyt.

The thread that Jesse made several days ago really exposed a lot of guys on here, In 2024 it's never been easier to get laid. It's easier to get laid in 2024 compared to 2014, compared to 2004. 4 Date rule? in 2024 doesn't exist, having to wait to marry a woman before you bang her? Unless you religious it doesn't exist. Having to take a girl even on a date before you bang her? it doesn't exist. 2024 The Game is completely different more than ever!
 

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In 2024 it's never been easier to get laid. It's easier to get laid in 2024 compared to 2014, compared to 2004. 4 Date rule? in 2024 doesn't exist, having to wait to marry a woman before you bang her? Unless you religious it doesn't exist. Having to take a girl even on a date before you bang her? it doesn't exist. 2024 The Game is completely different more than ever!
yes, Chad's get all the girls... and water is wet... not everyone can be a chad. even if guys worked on their "game" and every guy became an "expert", women would still only pick the top 5 to 10% of men. that's how they are conditioned in the west.
 

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Back to the question:

Does it get better for men with age?

In general, when guys mature into men, they will see women become more attracted, which can sometimes extend into a man's autumn years providing he stays healthy and fit for his age. Some men age into 'silver foxes', others into 'wrinkly ballsacks'; the foxes will have no problem attracting young(er) women, the scrotums will have to compensate with bulging sacks of money.
 

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You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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You don't have to be Chad to get laid or get girls you just gotta have your stuff together. If you're broke or fat or all of the above no game than yeah it would make sense than why you're struggling
the average guy is getting very little action, period.. there are quantifiable studies on this. is the average guy broke? or fat? not really.. they are typically average. Is the typically woman fat and poor? according to research, she is... or at least at rates higher than the average man. perhaps we should tell women to shape up and be "better"?
 

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I've heard multiple women say that pendulous ballsacks are unattractive.

Its clearly over for #PendulousBallsackCels

Sorry @MatureDJ it was there, had to do it.
HI Pierce,
The balls of Old Scarra are wrinkled and crinkled,
The balls of Old Scarra are withered and dry.,
But the girls they all muster to gaze at that cluster,
They stand and they stare at the wond’rous pair of,
Scarras,balls,balls,balls.
 

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the average guy is getting very little action, period.. there are quantifiable studies on this. is the average guy broke? or fat? not really.. they are typically average. Is the typically woman fat and poor? according to research, she is... or at least at rates higher than the average man. perhaps we should tell women to shape up and be "better"?
Yup tell women to shape up and be better and tell me how it works out for ya bub'!
 

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Does it really get better for men with age?
No, it doesn't if you're an average man. But who wants to be an average man?
Getting old doesn't make elite alpha men better. It's makes them older.
Attractive normal young women are not looking for Rupert Murdoch.
Attractive normal young women are not looking for 89 year old Clint Eastwood.
Yes, Rupert and Clint got rich and famous later, but if they were as rich and famous and young, they would be better.
Then all attractive normal young women would want them.
When they sell the live forever pill, everyone is going to want to be under 21. Forever.
This is really a dead horse, you are just moving the goal posts by saying average.
Of course, all the old men here will find some clever way to rationalize their conviction that they are better then when they were 25.
One thing that has improved it their ability to rationalize anything.
It's a pointless argument.
 

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‘First off, unless you have 1/100,000 god tier genetics, you're incel as **** around age 40 and beyond.’. A quote I saw.

It really depends. Probably this is true for 90+% of men.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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