Doc Love Has Lost It - Latest Article Critiqued

[aftershock]

David D Has Lost Is - Lastest Article Critiqued

It's official: David D has lost it. He's out of touch with life now. His latest column is the best example of this:

http://www.sosuave.com/doclove/doc263.htm

I'm not saying that he's completely lost it, but his reply is on shaky ground. Let's look at it.

Would Jude Law Give a Hoot If She Had a Boyfriend?

His recent articles have all included a celebrity in the title. There is no proof that celebrities are better DJs than any of us. An AFC celebrity would still be very successful with women.

And you didn't just ask for her home phone number and got out of there...

Sorry, but ten years ago, good advice. Now EVERYONE worth knowing has a mobile ("cell") phone, and use them more than they do the home phone. He needs to keep with the times.

We exchanged telephone numbers...

But why are you giving this hottie your phone number?

An extra chance. If she rings you, thats even better than you calling her - of course, you should get hers first and foremost. Never just give her yours, but exchanging can be useful.

My friend, the girl has to be available. I hate to have to inject such a heavy dose of truth into your life in one sentence, but she has to be available. And this girl is not available. Still, you made a good contact. So what we're going to do is try and figure out a way -- if this boyfriend of hers takes a dive in the next couple of months -- to be there to pick up all the pieces.

Proof he's lost it. This paragraph is the worst I've ever seen written. I'd expect more from an AFC with five posts whos never been on a date.

- EVERY girl is available (to me at least). A boyfriend is an obstacle that can be overcome. That is because we are all only in relationships until someone better comes along, more true of men than women.
- Giving a shoulder to cry on is the WORST advice ever. David D is advocating BEING THE REBOUND GUY! Excuse me? This goes against ALL DJ principles!

Another possibility is that she's just being disloyal, and for you that's not a good thing. Because what makes you think she wouldn't be disloyal to you somewhere down the line?

Because you are better than him, perhaps? A DJ should only worry about his girlfriend cheating if he isn't fulfilling her in the relationship, which is unlikely - as we are DJs.

(Of course there are exceptions, but here we will assume no red flags. If they are there, forget her)

Emanuel, you wouldn't pursue a girl who's in a serious relationship with someone else because she's not available

Oh yes she is. See above. If shes not available, why have many of us stole girls before? Pathetic.

The goal is not to be able to date Carmen -- that's where you're wrong, dude. If you start pressuring her for a date, she'll say "I have a boyfriend -- I told you that, didn't I?" and you're dead in the water before you even get started. So what you're going to do is this: you're going to call her every two weeks. Hopefully she'll call you back in between, and you'll set up a coffee date...

He's completely ignoring the complexities of things. He could equally go for the no strings sex option if he can get it, but this isn't explored. Interesting.

He's advocating being persistant - which is fine - but in an AFC manner. And a DJ here would fvck her, make her his, or forget about her.

David D, you have lost my respect. Good look to the surgeon who has to cure your right arms Repetitive Strain Injury...

 

[Jariel]

So what you're going to do is this: you're going to call her every two weeks.

 

[Mason]

Dude.. David D. did NOT write that article.. It was Doc Love.. David D. would NEVER write bs like that.. lol.. Just thought Id inform you..

 

[Desdinova]

That's an article by Doc Love, not David Deangelo. I've never been too fond of Doc Love's advice personally.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Mason
Dude.. David D. did NOT write that article.. It was Doc Love.. David D. would NEVER write bs like that.. lol.. Just thought Id inform you..

Thank you, I was really confused hearing that David D. was stooping to the whole actor comparison thing. That is straight Doc Love speak. No offense to Doc, I read his original System a few years ago and I still say it makes a lot of sense as the next step after gaining a woman's IL through the skills that David D. teaches.

I will admit that the actor comparison thing is a bit played out. I'll also admit that a few of Doc's ideas may seem outdated but we're DJs, right? We know that we shouldn't use their teachings straight out of the box, we need to customize them into our own personalities.

Anyway, I do feel that one paragraph really needs some rework.

 

[aftershock]

Ouch yes - my mistake! A pretty big one too!

I meant Doc Love - the confusion over "System" and all that stuff.

Either way, it's a bad article. I don't think we'll have many disagree with me here.

 

[Mason]

no problem.. I thought I'd check it out for myself, because it did sound like Doc Love. I remember reading The System. My first bright light at the end of the tunnel.. I remember it like it was yesterday.. lol..

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

They System paid for itself many times over for me with just one tip. NO DINNER/MOVIE/EXPENSIVE first dates. I saved at least $400 my first month after reading The System. Yeah, it's posted all over the forums now but I swear I couldn't find it years ago. No worries though, there's more good stuff in there that's worth the money (like qualifying). And 'no' it's not the same sh1t he writes in his articles.

 

[diablo]

You have to get to nine dates with her without rejection before you even entertain the idea of where you stand.

Sorry, but if I haven't hit it by the 3rd or 4th date I move on to someone else... Nine dates and I'd figure the girl was a Mormon...

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

That was probably one of Doc Love's lamest articles ever. Almost all HB's are "seeing someone" when you first meet them, this is normal protocal. What I noticed most of all about the article was that the woman wasn't putting up any resistance to his advances. He should just ignore Doc's advice and continue closing.

 

[everywomanshero]

Radio Address

I listened to one of his radio addresses. Basically, a large chunk of what he told guys NOT to do is EXACTLY how I'd been getting laid on the first or second date. IE Never date on weekend and go home early. Honestly, I stay late and often end up in the chicks bed. As far as how long the relationship lasts, I couldn't care less. I'll probably be bedding another when she calls to dump me.

I think Doc Love must be about extreme LTRs and not about just getting somewhere at all. That is fine if that's your thing, and I'm passing judgement on a guy after listening to 5 minutes of one audio segment. I could be totally wrong, but I doubt it.

 

[MetalFortress]

Someday, I'm going to become a famous actor, solely for the joy of having Doc Love write "Would MetalFortress care if she (insert chick problem here)"?

 

[Casino]

This guy is wildly homo'ed out.

I mean how the F are you going to taking dating advice from a 50 year old dude that takes pictures of himself holding a toy poodle in front of a freakin' PT Cruiser.

 

[MindOverMatter]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
Someday, I'm going to become a famous actor, solely for the joy of having Doc Love write "Would MetalFortress care if she (insert chick problem here)"?

lol.

 

[TesuqueRed]

Originally posted by diablo
Sorry, but if I haven't hit it by the 3rd or 4th date I move on to someone else... Nine dates and I'd figure the girl was a Mormon...

The few mormons I met -- they get it on. They just hide it like everyone else who has to hide it.

My favorite moment: goody mormon girl naive 6 months prior discovered the joys of bloody marys and brought some to class the last week of school (I spent time at a very small liberal arts college -- we did as we liked...) She discovered the joys of other things, too, but we won't go into that here.

Then I read of BYU's on-campus brothel -- when available for business girls hung a tennis racket in the window.

Then I met a guy who worked a liquor store and said they had to triple their supply when the mormons had a gathering of the elders.

Human nature and activity doesn't really change. Appearances, though - you do what you have to do, but the underlying behaviour doesn't really change.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
They System paid for itself many times over for me with just one tip. NO DINNER/MOVIE/EXPENSIVE first dates.

You could've read that off sosuave for free

 

[Mason]

Originally posted by Casino
This guy is wildly homo'ed out.

I mean how the F are you going to taking dating advice from a 50 year old dude that takes pictures of himself holding a toy poodle in front of a freakin' PT Cruiser.

haha.. Im glad I wasnt the only one thinking that.

 

[Analysis]

Doc Love is the premiere relationship doctor

Doc Love's mission is to help people out in long-term relationships. Now, you can use his material for one-night stands but that is not its intended purpose. I bought his book in 2000 and my life changed dramatically from that point on. I have never been played since then. I have not found one flaw in his system. What you have to understand is that his system works for everyone. He bottom lines everything in his book so you don't have to think. All you have to do is follow. For example, someone said that they take women out on the weekend when they first meet them and gets laid despite what Doc Love says. Doc Love says don't take women out on the weekend until they ask. For some guys taking a women out on the weekend will work but for all guys not taking them out on the weekend will work because it produces challenges and causes her to be more into you. Doc Love point is yea it might work but why take the gamble. And say the women is willing to go out w/ you on the weekend if you would have waited it would have drove her crazy and increased her interest level. I've read many books on this game and Doc Love is at the top. Any guy can get a women but can you get the woman and keep her interest level in the 90% range. Most guys do not know how to do that. If you follow everything to a T in Doc Love's book, your woman guareenteed will not leave you or even think about cheating on you because she will be so much in love. And it all starts from you picking the right woman and you being the right man. He explains all that in the Truth Triangle. I've been with my girl for over 3 years and say with certain if it wasn't for Doc Love this relationship would have ended within 5 months like previous women. She loves me because I see through all her B-llSh-t. She perceives me a being a real man. And there are guys trying to holla at her who are better looking than me, have better paying jobs than me but one thing they don't have is the The System. It's the System that got her and the system that will keep her. I always keep that in mind to prevent me from slipping. The caveat is you don't have to be perfect to keep her interest level in the 90% range.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
You could've read that off sosuave for free

Dude, read my post... I said that I know that you can read it throughout the forum now in part because I've been one of those expounding on it for the last couple of years. That info wasn't easily found in the forum or the Bible years ago.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Re: Doc Love is the premiere relationship doctor

I agree with some of Doc's theories about being a challenge and such, but his advice in this situation is garbage.

He even contradicts his own advice in the article:

"Guys, women never call! Why go through all that worthless rigmarole?"

"you're going to call her every two weeks. Hopefully she'll call you back in between, and you'll set up a coffee date. "

Ok, so which is it? If women never call then why should I sit around waiting for her to call me to set up a coffee date?