Do you like to "sleep around" with lots of Slvts, and expect to marry a virgin Trad woman?

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Which aspects of pickup are blue pill?

Read the Game. Mystery is a G. He's still the face of what mainstream think is pickup. Was still whimpering over a party girl who clearly lost count of abortions. A lot of puas follow similar path. I still value their running game &&& infield/receipts vs the hypergamy pods &&& no receipts on YouTube.

It's not so much pickup in and of itself is blue pill. it's that the majority of men who are notorious pickup artists are innately blue pill. Game was only a means to an end to play house. Arguably you could say the same of red pill. Majority play house. argue most men desire to settle down.

There's nothing inherently nothing wrong with it. Just fellas pick a huge ***** &&& it doesn't end well. I've never met a girl who was marriage worthy. this is from a guy that promotes chain Gunning pickup day or night.

You can't be half a gangster.

 

[zinc4]

I had a discussion with a conservative buddy of mine and both of us discovered that redpill Men in the West have a strong preference to sleep around with loads of Slvts before deciding to settle down with a virgin trad con woman once they've finished fvcking about.

I'm curious what the rest of the forum thinks when it comes to this, it does seem kind of hypocritical but I have never really met women who cared all that much if the man is a virgin or not.

This is me in a nutshell. It's not hypocritical at all imo. It's called being macho...or in other words naturally masculine. Something that feminists and snowflakes will try to convince you otherwise.

Men and women are not built equally. If i was born as a pretty woman i wouldn't sleep around period because i would be smart enough to know the rules and know where my true value was.

Men are the hunters...from a biological standpoint we are built to spread our seed to as many women as possible. Every male species in the animal kingdom this way pretty much. It makes for a higher survival chance for their species. Women are built to find the strongest possible male, mate with him and have strong maternal instincts to raise children. I don't get why this is confusing or offensive to anyone.

With that being said, i think once you do get married it is something to take very serious and you should not sleep around on her period if for nothing else, your children's sakes.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Read the Game. Mystery is a G. He's still the face of what mainstream think is pickup. Was still whimpering over a party girl who clearly lost count of abortions. A lot of puas follow similar path. I still value their running game &&& infield/receipts vs the hypergamy pods &&& no receipts on YouTube.

It's not so much pickup in and of itself is blue pill. it's that the majority of men who are notorious pickup artists are innately blue pill. Game was only a means to an end to play house. Arguably you could say the same of red pill. Majority play house. argue most men desire to settle down.

There's nothing inherently nothing wrong with it. Just fellas pick a huge ***** &&& it doesn't end well. I've never met a girl who was marriage worthy. this is from a guy that promotes chain Gunning pickup day or night.

You can't be half a gangster.

I never understood how guys who say they are rp would suddenly do the most bp type of stuff like crying or wanting a girl back. It's very bizarre to me because they preach the stuff, but dont even follow what they preach. Which makes them come off as fake to me. Like they're just wearing the skin but don't have the bones beneath it. Odd cause for someone like me who did come from a bp feminized raising, the transition to rp was rather easy. I was a troublemaker when I was younger then became smart cause people like me being smart [good grades and such]. I guess it's easy for me to not fall into camps and other mentalities. At one point I was ready to find a woman to marry and have a family like I was taught to. I'm actually glad all the bad stuff that happened came to be. It made me more aware that I was going about life the wrong way. I am doing something right considering all my situations has changed.

I just don't get how so many of these fake rp guys exist.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I had a discussion with a conservative buddy of mine and both of us discovered that redpill Men in the West have a strong preference to sleep around with loads of Slvts before deciding to settle down with a virgin trad con woman once they've finished fvcking about.

That's an extremely common male trait across cultures and time whenever it's possible.

Unfortunately, attracting slvts is WAY easier than trad cons.

It would be like spending your youth eating fast food and deciding to become a world class triathlete once you hit your thirties.

 

[HaleyBaron]

It would be like spending your youth eating fast food and deciding to become a world class triathlete once you hit your thirties.

This only applies to women. For men, multiple partners make you stronger.

 

[Zimbabwe]

What these RP guys do is then decide to “retire.” They drop the act, and choose a girl for a relationship. They have pickup skills, but not relationship skills. Different skill sets.

Almost none of these RP guys write books on relationship game. Most guys seem to think you can just go on auto pilot once you enter into a relationship. It's easy to date but hard to maintain frame and attraction over a long period of time without getting complacent.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

This only applies to women. For men, multiple partners make you stronger.

That's the myth at least.

 

[HaleyBaron]

That's the myth at least.

I don't think it's a myth. I just think there's a lot of weak men who were taught wrong who think they should find the one and to always cry for that one. And that one is always the next girl he gets with past his ex wife or ex gf. I also think men who depend emotionally and socially on having a romantic woman are flawed. No man should be depending on a woman for their will to live.

 

[thelambofdeth]

That's the myth at least.

Myth??? Whot m8? It's not a myth is obvious logistics...

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

It's not a myth is obvious logistics...

He said multiple partners make you stronger.

Stronger at planning and handling many women?

Stronger nexting?

Stronger at opening?

Stronger at short term game?

Since this thread is about getting a conservative lady after many partners, I assumed he meant by, "stronger" he meant stronger with resepct to getting a conservative lady later on.

I was suggesting that was a myth.

Short term game skills are a completely different sport than long term relationship building and maintaining skills.

In fact, I'd suggest that one set of skills weakens the other set of skills.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Why people are not protesting these laws baffles me. I’ve concluded that the average person is extremely stupid. It’s the only explanation.

People only protest when they have nothing to lose, currently most people are distracted with other more trivial issues while the elites continue to erode away at our rights

 

[Young OG]

No option for "I am in a LTR with a good woman but I cheat"

 

[Gamisch]

This thread is a classic. Its amazing to see that ( assuming most posters are from the usa) the way men think about partner count is still extremely conservative.

I mean, 5 cacks? That's easily reached by age 18 and imo that's not even that crazy( 15 ,1 bf, 16 ,2 bfs , 17 ,2 bf's) . And I am being generous here. Now, we get the party fase , alcohol and drugs, the discovery of old ,college and hook ups among women. C'mon fellows let's keep it real ...unless you live in a religiously driving environment 20 + count is nothing out of the ordinary. Do you even know how women function nowadays?

What I kinda missed though was the timeline what happens once you actually manage to get a LTR with a "virgin", or a low count notched girl. Ime most guys who managed to get this ran into the following problem;

" I wanna experience more, I missed out on dating, its unfair bc you got to play the field and i didn't "

I am not saying there is a good or bad but how do you guys wanna manage that drive? Seen it happen countless times, dude was all alpha bout his woman being this good girl but in this day and age there will always be some one in her circle encouraging her to play the field and " just date around". Hell , even religious women have a 5 + count.

And about having sex on the first date; I guess I am so arrogant I expect a woman to give it up fast bc of the chemistry I create. Maybe that's why most of my LTR's eventually failed lol.

 

[Gamisch]

Settling for slvts because “virgins are unrealistic” and “virgins suffer from fomo” reads like a cope to me. You want a virgin, but it’s unrealistic to you.

I can tell you right now. Expecting a woman to be a virgin in exchange for marriage is Standard Self Respect in many cultures, even today. It used to be a standard in the West too.

In 2022, any LTR is going to be difficult to maintain regardless of virgin or not. The real issue here is the Laws governing relations between men and women. The Laws are whack. Change the Laws, and restore something resembling what we used to have and most of the issues around lack-of-virgins etc will resolve themselves.

Settling for slvts because “virgins are unrealistic” and “virgins suffer from fomo” reads like a cope to me. You want a virgin, but it’s unrealistic to you.

I can tell you right now. Expecting a woman to be a virgin in exchange for marriage is Standard Self Respect in many cultures, even today. It used to be a standard in the West too.

In 2022, any LTR is going to be difficult to maintain regardless of virgin or not. The real issue here is the Laws governing relations between men and women. The Laws are whack. Change the Laws, and restore something resembling what we used to have and most of the issues around lack-of-virgins etc will resolve themselves.

Yes you do have a point there. Its is a cope, and I think at this point I dont even call a woman a slvt if she has x amount of d!ck on her resume. It's a another " dont ask a woman " thing , like asking for age or weight lol.

I have a lot of Muslim friends , and for them it's a even more important theme then for "pure westernized " men like me. And even they give up once they reach 30+. Good luck finding any woman around that age with a low cack count. Personally I dont care right now , bc it would severely limit my pool of women, and I dont neccesarily look for marriage. I also believe you need societal structures to contain the dark sides of female nature, but realistically there's no going back at this point ( anytime soon at least)

But still I am curious how would you deal with the "virgin fomo"? I've seen it happen way too often to just neglect this aspect.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I also believe you need societal structures to contain the dark sides of female nature, but realistically there's no

Why do so many men on here have this weird fantasy that all women are secretly Slvtty? You do realise the only reason women act so degenerate is because of rhe media and culture? Every channel has women naked and dancing for the pleasure of others.

The sex and city lifestyle is glorified on the media and families are shamed.

 

[Gamisch]

So the choice is Slvts or Muslims? Is that what you’re saying?

Because you appear to be coping again. “My Muslim friends all gave up on finding a virgin too.”

No.



You suddenly know lots of virgins? And they are telling you they are all suffering from fomo?

You don't answer the question .

Let's first off say I count a woman with a low cack count as a virgin in this case( category Virgin - low count) .What I am saying on both posts is as far as I've seen dudes being in LTR's with these type of women, the woman sooner or later tends to show signs of fomo. In all my years I indeed seen a handful of these cases. Let's say around 10.

I said I personally dont care too much for the count, but my close Muslim friends do. Maybe a cope, but I am just curious how YOU say a man deals with that. So that's beyond the cope imo.

And to answer your first sentence; I do feel like in my country your biggest chance of finding a virgin is indeed a muslim woman. You'll be hard pressed to find a westernized woman ,age 25-30 with a count under 5(bc like I said over here sexual femalefreedom is stimulated) . If they exist maybe you can tell the forum how that works?

Btw I like your cut throat approach, but you gotta elaborate and answer.

 

[Gamisch]

You don't have to deal with anything. Men have it in their minds that they "have to" commit to a woman and settle down.

So, you cope and accept any sh1t sandwich you're served, while moaning "but my muslims friends accept slvts too. And all my friends say their virgin wives aren't happy.'

Dude. You absolutely suck. You're the slvt enabler-type. These types of men (men like you) have failed women collectively because you are so horny you'd fvck and beg for women your grandfather wouldn't have looked twice at.

If I read between the lines you trying to say " up your standards " , to men. You do have a point there I gotta admit that one. At the same time you blame it all on men(like me) , and say women are free of guilt. Doesnt work that way imo.

You cannot close your eyes for reality. Dont hate the player if you hate the game. Do you live in Iran or some country like that? Foth, like I am behind the sexual revolution and told women back whenever in the 70's 60's there should be sexual freedom and women should be free to play the field. Did you even read what i wrote? Over here women are STIMULATED to date , explore ,experiment ect = higher count. That means most men at some point might meet a girl they actually like ,but now she has a past.

I am a open minded type of dude so I try to listen to whatever point you try to make, maybe you can do the same. No need for insults my brother. I think you are a respected poster and I was just asking you something. Let's just have a conversation and if there's something to teach, then teach so all men(assuming there are more men like me) can actually learn something and improve.

I am saying third time now that even my Muslim friends feel like if they wanna be with a woman at some point they might have to lower their standard bc finding a woman with a low cack count is like finding a needle in the haystack. How is that my cope? I am not a muslim , I am not trying to marry a virgin .Maybe their cope ,not mine.

And regarding the sandwich , I'll repeat : I don't care if a woman wants to be a slvt . I can go on OLD and meet a slvt who pretends to me she is a good girl, who knows? I can't control all women on this planet bro. There's something called individual freedom .

Would be more constructive if you would actually answer the question, and that was just a question out of interest on how a man deals with fomo from women, bc that is a thing you know. Looking forward to your answer.

 

[Gamisch]

Asking women to be accountable is like asking a monkey to be accountable.

That’s why, in history, society and laws have been managed by men. If you give a typewriter to a monkey and complain that it can’t type as well as you..that’s similar to you trying to blame women for the market and society. Women follow men. You appear to be following women and saying she’s accountable for the world that men have created for her. That’s whack. Men created this world and they wrote all the laws that enable consequence-free promiscuity for women and Alphas.

With all due respect , but you're all up in your feeling about this subject and I wonder why. I don't follow anybody but myself first and foremost.

If women would indeed followed men this whole board wouldn't exist, c'mon now. Most men end up here bc their rose tinted glasses were taking off with brute force. And check your history books, it filled with women who fought for sexual freedom ,equality ect. And yes perhaps when that happened things went to shyt. But its too easy to just ignore those facts my brother. Otherwise(bc my guess is you'll say these women were lead by men also) throw facts, sources and links, not just personal conspiracy theories.

The bolded sentences kinda contradict each other dont you think? First you say in history men made the rules and things were good, and then you say the same men made the current rules which f ed things up?? Make a decision bro.

I read your post before so I kinda know here you coming from from a political pov. But reading between the lines you are actually the one white knighting women by taking all blame away from them, while most men here learn to see things for what they really are. Imo that's whack and unrealistic and even part of the problem. That's why I bolded those sentences. Bc that's how we got here to this point in history. Men like you despise women and at the same time pedalstalizing women. At least I am realistic enough to accept something as a past or a count over 5.

You sound like that older brother who always fight when his little brother (women) gets in trouble without checking context, while the kid silently laughs, turns around and does it all over again knowing it wont be held accountable their actions and is always protected. Insane.

So on this topic I respectfully disagree with you. Any human being is accountable for their own actions, that how the (westernized) world works.women are not monkeys, their human beings. You need Shari'a kinda laws to prevent women from notching up their count, and that will never happen. And I am happy with that tbh.

 

[Gamisch]

Asking women to be accountable is like asking a monkey to be accountable.

That’s why, in history, society and laws have been managed by men. If you give a typewriter to a monkey and complain that it can’t type as well as you..that’s similar to you trying to blame women for the market and society. Women follow men. You appear to be following women and saying she’s accountable for the world that men have created for her. That’s whack. Men created this world and they wrote all the laws that enable consequence-free promiscuity for women and Alphas.

And let me make one thing clear. I highly respect you as a poster, not ashamed to say that ,even when I was still lurking. Sometimes I think your vision is too black and white, but other times I see you really nail a topic. So I will definitely re read this and give it all some deep thought. Let's just refrain from personal insults.

We all here bc we both despise and admire women right? ( why are they so hard,why are they so easy?) This is a endless infinite topic, I have a thousand more opinions on this. If I made the rules every man was still together with his first love and we were all in 60 year plus marriages. But that's not reality.

Looking forward to your answer.

 

[HaleyBaron]

And let me make one thing clear. I highly respect you as a poster, not ashamed to say that ,even when I was still lurking. Sometimes I think your vision is too black and white, but other times I see you really nail a topic. So I will definitely re read this and give it all some deep thought. Let's just refrain from personal insults.

We all here bc we both despise and admire women right? ( why are they so hard,why are they so easy?) This is a endless infinite topic, I have a thousand more opinions on this. If I made the rules every man was still together with his first love and we were all in 60 year plus marriages. But that's not reality.

Looking forward to your answer.

I told Pan before, that insult energy he gives off pissed me off. Cause he easily gets angry at you without anyone trying to instigate. That's female energy right there, and it makes the credibility of his posts get harmed. We're here to get away from the emotional spiel of beta men and women on other forums. Whenever I see a guy do the same here, I instantly assume they still have a lot of feminine nature to get rid of. Ain't their fault. Just gotta make them aware of it.