Do you know avoid dating women of certain profession?

[Luthor Rex]

Wake me up when one of these exist anymore.

:yes: :rockon:

 

[jophil28]

Feminism has not hurt women in my opinion, we really don't have a choice, we have to survive as well and some of us not only want to survive, we want to thrive so whats so wrong with that? All we want is a man who is capable of being present with us. Physically and emotionally.

That makes no sense.
For a start, most men in this board despise what a lot of women have become thanks to the hatefilled brainwashing that has been practised by feminism . Therefore you and your sisters have gone DOWN in our estimations. We are LESS likely to date you or marry a woman who has absorbed feminist propoganda because you are less likeable. THAT hurts you and your chances with us.

Secondly, you DO have a choice to drink the feminist poison or not.
NObody FORCED you to treat men like we are your enemy, you did it because you were willingly sucked into believing the lies that they told you. I want to tell you this - If I date a new woman and I hear just one of those annoying anti-male mantras, you do not get a second date.

I agree that you have to survive, but you did not have to morph into a spiteful, sneering self absorbed brat in an adult body to do so. Just a job will pay your rent, you do not need to become a combat soldier in the war against men to pay your AMex..

Lastly, you say that you want a man to be there for you. Here again is the sense of a woman's entitlement. You seem to believe that you should be provided with whatever you want just because you want it. Men understand that nothing comes from just wishing and hoping alone.We understand trade and barter. Women on the other hand believe that they have some anterior right to a model handsome wealthy husband who will "be there for them" and remove all of her lumps from her life . What do YOU and your sisters regard as your contribution in fair exchange apart from occasional sex?

 

[sodbuster]

The problem with these "professional women" is simple-they learned a little bit in school,but think they learned it ALL. My ex-wife thought she was smarter than I was in everything including my Dental office. Since my divorce, I've been happier,making more money and not having to answer to a woman who thinks she's running the show.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

I still have not seen ONE post which logically debates why finding a stupid, obediant foreign woman is not the best option.

The only person who argued me is a woman.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

A successful woman in any proffesion needs to date a man who is not intimidated by it and a man that knows what he wants and goes after it. A woman's proffesion does not determine the woman neccesarily. How about a dating coach, how would guys feel about dating a dating coach?

Of Christ this old chestnut.

I dont know why its so difficult for women to understand that men are in no way threatened by professional women. Why would they be? At the end of the day, any manager of people or owner of a business would want to employ the best people for the job at the lowest rate they can. That is true of ANY capitalist system and while you will have the odd person who wont employ someone because of race or gender its normally past performance and ability that get the job in 99% of the cases.

Why would men be threatened by your ability to provide for yourself? I know that most women feel like champions when they dont need a man in their life to put food on the table, but feeding yourself and paying the clothing accounts and rent on time is what we call "being an adult." I dont see why women feel they need to be praised for being an adult.

Why would men be concerned about the "competition" you bring to the workplace? What real competition? Most women are wage slaves and those that do strike out on their own tend to open retail outlets or run small services companies. How many multinational companies were started by women? Hell, how many national companies have been started by women? Considering that you are almost 40% of the workforce and more women graduate from college then men these days you would think that its would be a pretty even split.

After all these years of equal education, preferential employment rights, more benefits and in general more leave (statistically speaking, you cant argue with one of those points) women still do not create as much as men do. They run fewer successful companies, they dont make it to executive positions as often (with many being token appointments) and they certainly dont develop many of the ground breaking products and business models we see today.

So again I ask you. Which man worth his salt is going to be intimidated by a professional woman? There is nothing to be intimidated by. It is about as scary as a field mouse.

When it comes to interpersonal relationships however, there is a lot to be concerned about. Most dont care about family until their biological clock starts ticking. Most cannot separate emotion from the workplace and tend to bring 90% of the problems at work home with them. Most of them tend to build up this hard exterior to try and compete with men when its not in their nature to be that way. Even worse, most "careers" are jobs as PA's or second string lawyers yet women expect the world to put them up on a pedestal and bask in the glory of her independence and success.

Then its the background of the education itself. Unfortunately, feminism as a movement is rampant in the universities and most college kids get wrapped up in some cause or another. So you have swathes of women indoctrinated in man hate and force fed studies and opinions that describe in detail how her gender has been oppressed, marginalized and exploited for thousands of years. Even if we ignore the last two paragraphs completely, and we just look at divorce statistics, college educated women divorce in higher rates than most other women too.

So lets get this straight. Basically, in a nutshell, you are saying that a man who will not stick around for a woman who...

1) Has no interest in family
2) Often will bring stress and work related issues home (what you girls like to call "unsupportive of my career")
3) Becomes *****y as a counter measure to work related stress
4) Allows a second rate job to become the reason for 1,2 & 3
5) Tends to be a feminist
6) Comes from a demographic that tends to divorce more than any other

...is still one hell of a catch for any "real man" who is not intimidated by her "success and achievements."

Gotcha.

By the way, I see you are 35. I take it a professional girl? Couple of failed relationships already? Maybe a kid or two, or perhaps did not want and are now wondering if that was the right choice? Its not your fault entirely sweetheart, they have been feeding you girls a bull**** lie too. Its not just men that have duped.

 

[She_feelin_Me]

I wouldnt care what profession she is in aslong its not anything dealing with being paid for sex....

Most jobs yall guys wouldnt deal with are the ones bringing in the big bucks...I would sell yes to a nurse than some girl with nothing going for herself. I want her to speak english so we can communicate and not so dumb ass bimbo type broad with no goals in life. So what if she thinks she know more than yall...what woman doesnt you just gotta be the man in the relationship to deal with an ego. I would be with a stripper, she makes more than than a average female on their 9-5. You gotta think outside the box, if she bringing more to the table than some good pvssy she is alright with me whatever her profession may be.

 

[Colossus]

Good female attributes:

That whole "men are intimidated" line is the most tired b.s. in the world. This is really simple: The reason why men don't generally like career women is that they bring less feminine attributes into a relationship and more b1tchy headaches. End of story.

Another reason is that most women cant handle power that well. They have this innate inability to separate their emotions from decisions that should be impartial and efficient.


A woman who has these attributes is worth her weight in gold:


1. Emotional maturity and independence
-Very important. She should not need you for any sort of validation or to fill some void
2. Resourcefulness and productivity
-Makes good use of her time, not lazy. Gets things done around the house, finds the best deals, saves you money
3. Submissive, but not a pushover
-Good women will submit to your leadership, but wont just let you make a selfish or bullsh1t decision
4. Strong self-worth
-See # 1
5. Gentleness and kindness
-No one wants a snappy b1tch
6. Acceptance and support for your passions
7. Understanding of a man's needs and thinking
-It's important that she understands men and does not try to mold you into her ideal.
8. Never demanding or 'henpecking'
-A good woman will never demand things of you. She may suggest or ask, but not peck at you until you explode
9. Never uses sex as reward
-Self-explanatory
10. Respects the life you had before you met her (your friends, hobbies, etc.)
11. Does not let the status of your rel. determine her level of self worth
-See #1 and #4
12. Has a life of her own
-As should you
13. Respects your privacy and feelings---does not "fish" for info you arent privy to give
-A woman who understands men will not pry emotional things out of him. She'll understand that when he is ready, he'll talk about it.
14. Most importantly, she should enjoy LIFE and be generally happy overall, with or without you
-Again, as should you


See how nothing in this list is earth-shattering? A woman who has these qualities will net a man far more happiness than the hottest HB 10 who has skated through life on her looks and charm alone.

 

[robinincarolina]

Its me again, the woman here. Lots of posts up there and its apparent that perhaps I am not welcome, although some don't think this as I get messages from some of you seeking advice, to those of you that do that, thank you for recognizing me.



Yes Hooligan Harry I am a proffesional woman, but my proffesion does not determine the kind of woman I am. Yes I have a kid, but no regrets there. She is great. Your 1-6 though are way off target. I don't have a second rate job. I have my own business and am successful because I am good at it, not because I am trying to be Ms. Big Balls. I consult and am a freelance writter. I don't bring my work home, I work from home, I just shut off my computer when I am ready to do so. I like to have fun after working, and I have lots of it. I don't have a blackberry or whatever you call it, just a razor phone with the ringtone "Its 5:00 o'clock somewhere. I like happy hour. I don't consider myself a feminist at all. I love men and appreciate them for who they are and the way they are. I think men should be men and women should be women, period.



Lots of posts up there, but in summary I don't feel I am entitled to anything. I do not engage in feminist progaganda, and am far from a combat soldier. I do not compete with men. Don't think that accomplishes anything and it certainly does not validate my sense of self, only I can do that, as only you men can do that. You don't need women to validate you as men.



I like men, a lot. I don't use trickery, games, pouting, nagging, whining, clinging to get my way. I don't use sexual favors as amunition. I love sex and I love pleasing a man and I love a man who wants to return it. I don't try to change the men in my life, and I don't try to take away their sense of freedom as I realize its value to you men. I encourage and embrace masculinity. Men have it harder than women in a lot of ways. I see this. They are expected to be the pursuer and society has placed a lot of high expectations on them. Men are not my enemy by a longshot. It was a man who suggested I visit this forum. One of you.



The only game I play is the no contact game if I get dumped. We all get dumped at some point in our lives. I don't do it to punish the man, I do it so I can screw my head back on straight and get a grip on my emotions again. I think you all do the same, there is a post here about it.



It seems that the good men out there often pay for the mistakes of the bad men before them. The same holds true for women, the good women have to pay for the stupid women's mistakes. Sad but true.



So whoever is asleep up there wake up.

 

[Julian]

A woman is not her profession in my opinion. If you come correct and are a true man to the nth degree its not going to matter what she does. Personally I want a woman who has ambition and is intelligent, I look for certain characteristics and traits.

Her profession may play a role in who she is to a certain extent but usually she is in that profession because of her natural tendencies, not the other way around for the most part.

In my opinion there are 3 types of women, good girls, ho's and gold diggers. And they are in every profession. Its up to you to sort out who's who.

For instance theres plenty of nurses, aka the so called giving motherly type who are some dirty ass *****s and gold diggers and im sure theres plenty of lawyers and other professionals with prestigious jobs who are down to earth classic good girls. Same with women from other countries, eastern euro, south american, etc...the supposed "superior uncorrupted women" who compared our western American females, are saintly angels and the only women to marry to be involved with. which in my opinion and the opinion of men from those countries is complete BS. Sure certain cultures def. stress family and traditional roles but that doesnt mean theres not some succubi in the mix.

 

[She_feelin_Me]

^^cosign

 

[robinincarolina]

Colossus,

Exactly! I like you.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

I wouldnt care what profession she is in aslong its not anything dealing with being paid for sex....

Agree with you.

The irony of it all.

Woman with no carreer = Man pays for her everything, including sex!!!!

If a man has to worry about a woman's carreer to be able to handle them, then he needs a lot more help than he realizes. He'll need to learn how to deal, manage, handle, and stay in control with most type of women, regardless of their job. Women have more in common with each other because they are women, not because they share a particular proffession. Just sayin'.

There are two types of women. Givers and takers. You decide what you want for yourself. One of those two will make your life more miserable than the other. You figure it out.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Typically, men could care less what a woman earns or what she does to earn it - it's simply not a factor in attraction for us - we don't take a woman's status or wealth into consideration, all she has to be is hot. That is a guy's one condition for intimacy; physical attraction / sexual availability. She's gotta be hot - whether she makes six figures or is in the pit of poverty is irrelevant in attraction. Oprah and Star Jones' husbands still have to get aroused, and all the money in the world wont be any better an aphrodesiac.

Status, wealth and the other rewards that result from 'professional' life are conditions women have for men in attraction. That's not to discount the importance of men being physically attractive or other attributes, but women have far more conditions for their intimacy than men, and these conditions are predicated upon characteristics that prove a man as a good provider for her and any future offspring's security. These male characteristics (or sometimes just the prospects of a man attaining them) are defined by women as having value and are therefore attractive. Attractive enough to make a man with these qualities one to be competed for with other women. Women define what is masculine, they define what male traits have value for their investment of intimacy. Men define what is feminine, they define what female traits have value for their investment of their provision of security and meeting the condition criteria women place on them for their intimacy.

Women in the professional realm would like the conditions for attraction to be predicated upon their professional status (wealth), individual merit and/or aspects their personal integrity, and a whole list of esoteric qualities, but they still fight against men's basic impulses - she's-go-to-be-hot! If a woman is attractive a man is more than happy to have her foot the bill regardless of comparative incomes, it's just icing on the cake for us, but this is analagous to a woman who marries a rich guy who also happens to be good looking.

The 'Today's Woman' crowd love to use this manufactured fear that men are expected to have in response to why guy's ought to be ashamed of themselves for basing their attraction of the physical by blaming it on 'men's fragile egoes' or how they 'feel threatened by professional women'. It comes down to an expectation and entitlement from their 'professionalism' that men should redefine their own criteria for attraction based on what women finds attractive in the masculine. Essentially, they're expecting their status, professionalism, earning capacity and all the rewards afforded them from playing in the professional realm to become attractors for like-status males.

The ideology then grinds it's teeth at the men 'qualified' to date professional women for having a tendency to hit on women far younger, less 'powerful' and (surprise) generally in much better physical shape than the 'professional' they should be dating. For this they're called 'infantile', 'immature', or the behavior is regarded as a character flaw, or a desire to relive his youth with a 'trophy wife' - interesting that this term should come from the same faction to complain about the evils of objectifying women. All the man is doing is following his primary impulse, she has to be hot!

As most women bemoan, men have a tendency to see women as sex objects in attraction. Women have a tendency to see men as success objects. The problem with this 'professional woman' mythology is that professional women want to be success objectsthemselves, but nature keeps confounding their efforts.

Now, all of that said, if a woman's choice is to enter the public realm and pursue a career in the same fashion that men have for years, more power to her. Great, you go girl, so long as they understand the responsibilities and liabilities of doing so. They should also thoughroughly understand that men will define what is attractive for them, not women, professional or otherwise.

 

[Julian]

Why was my post deleted

 

[DMSR76]

Typically, men could care less what a woman earns or what she does to earn it - it's simply not a factor in attraction for us - we don't take a woman's status or wealth into consideration, all she has to be is hot. That is a guy's one condition for intimacy; physical attraction / sexual availability. She's gotta be hot - whether she makes six figures or is in the pit of poverty is irrelevant in attraction. Oprah and Star Jones' husbands still have to get aroused, and all the money in the world wont be any better an aphrodesiac.

Status, wealth and the other rewards that result from 'professional' life are conditions women have for men in attraction. That's not to discount the importance of men being physically attractive or other attributes, but women have far more conditions for their intimacy than men, and these conditions are predicated upon characteristics that prove a man as a good provider for her and any future offspring's security. These male characteristics (or sometimes just the prospects of a man attaining them) are defined by women as having value and are therefore attractive. Attractive enough to make a man with these qualities one to be competed for with other women. Women define what is masculine, they define what male traits have value for their investment of intimacy. Men define what is feminine, they define what female traits have value for their investment of their provision of security and meeting the condition criteria women place on them for their intimacy.

Women in the professional realm would like the conditions for attraction to be predicated upon their professional status (wealth), individual merit and/or aspects their personal integrity, and a whole list of esoteric qualities, but they still fight against men's basic impulses - she's-go-to-be-hot! If a woman is attractive a man is more than happy to have her foot the bill regardless of comparative incomes, it's just icing on the cake for us, but this is analagous to a woman who marries a rich guy who also happens to be good looking.

The 'Today's Woman' crowd love to use this manufactured fear that men are expected to have in response to why guy's ought to be ashamed of themselves for basing their attraction of the physical by blaming it on 'men's fragile egoes' or how they 'feel threatened by professional women'. It comes down to an expectation and entitlement from their 'professionalism' that men should redefine their own criteria for attraction based on what women finds attractive in the masculine. Essentially, they're expecting their status, professionalism, earning capacity and all the rewards afforded them from playing in the professional realm to become attractors for like-status males.

The ideology then grinds it's teeth at the men 'qualified' to date professional women for having a tendency to hit on women far younger, less 'powerful' and (surprise) generally in much better physical shape than the 'professional' they should be dating. For this they're called 'infantile', 'immature', or the behavior is regarded as a character flaw, or a desire to relive his youth with a 'trophy wife' - interesting that this term should come from the same faction to complain about the evils of objectifying women. All the man is doing is following his primary impulse, she has to be hot!

As most women bemoan, men have a tendency to see women as sex objects in attraction. Women have a tendency to see men as success objects. The problem with this 'professional woman' mythology is that professional women want to be success objectsthemselves, but nature keeps confounding their efforts.

Now, all of that said, if a woman's choice is to enter the public realm and pursue a career in the same fashion that men have for years, more power to her. Great, you go girl, so long as they understand the responsibilities and liabilities of doing so. They should also thoughroughly understand that men will define what is attractive for them, not women, professional or otherwise.

You nailed it.

 

[jophil28]

..I am a proffesional woman, but my proffesion does not determine the kind of woman I am.
I consult and am a freelance writter.

OK.
Perhaps you might 'consult' your Spell Checker before you submit next time..

..."proffesion" is not a good look, and "writter" is a tad worse from someone who makes a living at her keyboard.

 

[jophil28]

I'm not sure how many females are in your workplace, but this is what passes nowadays for a "prophessional" woman who is a "writter." She's actually one of the better ones I've run across. She probably works for the New York or LA Times; both companies employ an army of editors.

Ha ha ! Are you serious ? In that case, I surely hope that those editors are men.

IF I reviewed a woman's CV with a covering letter from her containing the words "proffesional" or " writter", it would go to DELETE.

 

[cedd]

feminism activist !

I do agree with hair dressers : stupids as hell and self oriented.

 

[Mr. Me]

I am a proffesional woman...

I consult and am a freelance writter.

Hoo-dogey! One of them thar proffesional writters!

If they can't speak good English, I'm in love.

That's because you're such a narcissist!

Come to think of it, I may have a girl for you.

So whoever is asleep up there wake up.

Thing is, you may not realize it, but you haven't woken up yet. That's why you can spout things like "all I want is a man who is present", not realizing this is NOT an original line that came from you. You've been programmed to think that, say that.

 

[yuppaz]

Think that's David Dieda (sp?) - was a sh*tty book and I shouldn't have wasted the $15