Do you have to accept that some women are just realistically out of your league?

[asa_don]

Show me a person who has time so sit on a forum and debate race relations in the middle of a work week and i'll show yous someone who's broke, ignorant and most likely not getting laid.

i've always had a theory. Educated black guys are prob per capita the most AFC guys in america. Because they don't have very many options, and lack of options is the number 1 cause of AFC ism . they end up being overly clingy to girls that they are around.

well look at you backbreaker, browsing/posting in threads all day thursday including talking about race relations in a regular dj thread.

here we go again, you making another race baiting post, saying blacks have it worse off than whites. smfh

if you apply yourself, work hard, are educated, intelligent, you will gain great success with women & life no matter what color you are. lazy people, whiners, blamers, complainers, never make it anywhere regardless of color.

quit knocking the system just because you couldn't make it, i'm tired of people like you blaming the system for their own failures just like a afc/beta would blaming a chick for thinking he's not an alpha, wtf do you expect? it's your own fault.

go take the theory somewhere else, quit being prejudice, this is off topic.

 

[skinnyguy]

pete101's post should be stickied. Any guy who calls a minority a "race troll" has no idea what it's like to be that person's race. Just come to the Bay Area and see all these Indian AFC's going around to bars trying to pick up girls. Most of them (especially the FOBs) have completely given up. They know it's useless. Meanwhile, a white guy with no job is picking up HB 9's. There is absolutely truth to race theory whether you want to accept it or not.

So yes, an Indian guy will have an extremely difficult time getting a very hot white girl. That's just life. The best he can do is to drop his standards, go for a different type of chick, and focus on other things.

Tyler Durden is an annoying sh*tbag who will do or say anything to make money. He is NEVER turned an Indian AFC with a fob accent into a DJ which shows that he has no credibility (he claims that any guy in the world can pull HB 10's). Yes, the stuff he says is cool, but when has he ever turned someone's life around? Most of the stuff he says doesn't apply to his audience.

 

[Jaylan]

OP, all I can say is that yes...some women are out of our league and that's something we each have to accept. All you can do is strive to be your best, and aim high anyways. Its useless focusing on women who dont want you. Focus on those who do want you.

Sure this all sounds cliche and bubblegum, but its true.

well look at you backbreaker, browsing/posting in threads all day thursday including talking about race relations in a regular dj thread.

here we go again, you making another race baiting post, saying blacks have it worse off than whites. smfh

if you apply yourself, work hard, are educated, intelligent, you will gain great success with women & life no matter what color you are. lazy people, whiners, blamers, complainers, never make it anywhere regardless of color.

quit knocking the system just because you couldn't make it, i'm tired of people like you blaming the system for their own failures just like a afc/beta would blaming a chick for thinking he's not an alpha, wtf do you expect? it's your own fault.

go take the theory somewhere else, quit being prejudice, this is off topic.

Lmao.

Youre concerned about "race baiting" when the posts being made in this thread are on topic? Several posters in this thread have addressed race with regard to dating, so I dont see how its off-topic making an observation on a particular subset of guys.

Funny how you get all bent out of shape about that post, yet you basically nod your head in agreement with the obvious racist trolls that constantly post in the Anything Else forum. What a clown. So its prejudice when a man of color speaks about dating issues regarding other men of color? Yet you dont call out the dudes in the AE forum that go as far as to make excuses for police when an innocent person is gunned down? Where's the consistency in you calling out "race baiting"?

Lolz ok. Makes sense.

pete101's post should be stickied. Any guy who calls a minority a "race troll" has no idea what it's like to be that person's race. Just come to the Bay Area and see all these Indian AFC's going around to bars trying to pick up girls. Most of them (especially the FOBs) have completely given up. They know it's useless. Meanwhile, a white guy with no job is picking up HB 9's. There is absolutely truth to race theory whether you want to accept it or not.

So yes, an Indian guy will have an extremely difficult time getting a very hot white girl. That's just life. The best he can do is to drop his standards, go for a different type of chick, and focus on other things.

Tyler Durden is an annoying sh*tbag who will do or say anything to make money. He is NEVER turned an Indian AFC with a fob accent into a DJ which shows that he has no credibility (he claims that any guy in the world can pull HB 10's). Yes, the stuff he says is cool, but when has he ever turned someone's life around? Most of the stuff he says doesn't apply to his audience.

Let's be real. Many FOB accents just aren't attractive to Americans. In my experience certain European, Latin American, and Carribean accents are fine for a FOB type person. But African and Asian accents just dont do well.

I cant blame Tyler or anyone else if they cant transform such a person into a puzzy magnet here in the States. Accents are really hard to get rid of if someone hasnt learned a new language from a young age, or practiced and studied their ass off as adults.

This all said, I believe itd be great to see someone take a FOB from a particular part of the world and turn him into a stateside hunk. It'd be like a movie plot.

 

[pete101]

i work around a lot of those types of females, im a low level IT guy at one of the hottest companies in silicon valley right now, and whats become disturbingly apparent is that most of these types of women are dating or married to guys who look like roman polanksi and ron jeremy. i was under the impression that these women were all dating a guy that looked like tom brady, but what they seem to care about most is a guy who has a high paying career. they may look at a guy like me who spent all his time training martial arts and hitting the gym, but they are going home to ron jeremy every night and making him go to her friends weddings and things like that.

but isn't that just really for who they get married to or settle down with?

it's logical when they get a little bit older they go for the guy who has money can provide etc.. it's the whole lover/provider bracket.. they prob want tom brady to f their brains out but to settle down they'll go for a guy who can provide for them and future children (bad example because tom brady is multi millionaire - but a guy who looks like tom brady i mean)

i think their first priority is to find a guy who looks like tom brady but makes a lot of money, failing that just a guy who makes a lot of money, might be also that as they get older if their other half looks like tom brady they may be worried he might cheat when she gets on a bit, whereas a husband who looks like ron jeremy will worship the ground she walks on and never leave her.

younger girls just go for a guy who looks like tom brady (no matter what money he makes), they're not looking to settle down.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Haters Gone Hate

So yes, an Indian guy will have an extremely difficult time getting a very hot white girl. That's just life. The best he can do is to drop his standards, go for a different type of chick, and focus on other things.

As opposed to who?

He is NEVER turned an Indian AFC with a fob accent into a DJ which shows that he has no credibility

How do you know this?

(he claims that any guy in the world can pull HB 10's). Yes, the stuff he says is cool, but when has he ever turned someone's life around? Most of the stuff he says doesn't apply to his audience.

For one, he's turned his own life around. Unless he's the Bernie Madoff of the Pickup commnity, you can't stand in business for as long as he has based on an ineffective and a fraudulent product.

Most of the stuff he says doesn't apply to his audience.

Stuff like what?

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

I have come to accept that the barriers I have created are in my head when it comes to these women. As it said on that RSD thread, it does not even have to do with looks as much as it has to do with social circles and status.

Problem is that I have no ideas how a lot of these elite social circles work and I have seen some clear segregation in them. Here in the Bay Area, girls like the one I saw tend to run in almost all White social circles and as liberal as people might brag about being, they aren't that open to interacting with other races as much. For some reason I see a lot of white men here dating interracial but I don't see that many white women dating interracial. When I have dated white women who looked good, it was enough to attract stares and even comments from others. That right there is in my head and worked against me when that girl walked into Starbucks.

It's like I feel that this isn't the case everywhere in the USA or even the world, that rich whites in the bay are different than rich whites in NYC or Texas. As liberal as the bay area might be, the elite white liberals here do the best they can to avoid being near minorities unless it is a situation where a white guy is trying to fulfill his asian girl fetish.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

@Pete: I am surprised to hear good things about London because I have always felt that White British women exclusively go for black and white men. When I visited the UK, it puzzled me as to how many white girls I saw there with black or mixed black looking guys but rarely any with pakistanis, indians, asians, or other minority groups. I am sure the brits in here can confirm that but I saw how the blacks and whites were mixing a lot but the indians and pakistanis were on their own.

At cafes I overheard conversations between brits who were openly talking about how much they hated those "dirty pakis" and I didn't get a good impression of the UK. Happy that I wasn't there for a long time, had a lot more fun in other European countries.

 

[Desdinova]

Why would I want to get a woman who gives off the "spoiled rotten brat" vibe? Give me a girl who shoveled cow 5hit on a farm all day. At least she'll know how to cook me breakfast.

 

[backbreaker]

Why would I want to get a woman who gives off the "spoiled rotten brat" vibe?

becuase she's hot lol?

 

[Maximus Rex]

Rex Needs You to Explain Something to Him

Rex is a cigar connoisseur and often times when I'm in the cigar shop, I'm the only black guy in the shop, smoking cigars among lawyers, judges, doctors, stock brokers, financiers, and other entrepreneurs. For the purposes of this discussion, I need to add that I'm from Richmond, and since you're in the Bay, I'm pretty much sure that you know what kind of area that Richmond, CA is.

So explain something H.H.D., explain something to dear ole Rex. If can feel absolutely at home in an environment where I'm a minority not only in race, but also in socioeconomic status, why are you letting white chicks intimidate you. I could half-assed understand if you talking about black chicks or maybe even Latinas, but these are white girls that you're obsessing over than they tend to be very friendly for the most part, even then they shoot you down they're nice. And speaking of obessing,

Problem is that I have no ideas how a lot of these elite social circles work and I have seen some clear segregation in them.

Here in the Bay Area, girls like the one I saw tend to run in almost all White social circles and as liberal as people might brag about being, they aren't that open to interacting with other races as much.

What's up with you and this unhealthy obsession with white women? I understand black like what they like, but damn dude, the sh*t you're talking isn't cool. The British really did a job on y'all as it concerns the color of you're skin complexion.

For some reason I see a lot of white men here dating interracial but I don't see that many white women dating interracial.

The pickup artist must be the exception.

Problem is that I have no ideas how a lot of these elite social circles work and I have seen some clear segregation in them.

Do what Tyler and Antonio Centeno do and start going to entrepreneurial networking events.

 

[The_411]

Iron Triangle represent! It's not equal, but you can either gripe about it not being equal or you can accept it and raise your middle finger to the societal cliques.

Why would you want to be around a woman who dislikes you simply because you're not white?

You can't control it so it's not worth wasting time over. Meetup start up meetings are great places to get into social circles. Meeting people in general is good and it doesn't have to be women. Guys are easy to befriend if you can find commonality and they're the ones who can get you to the events to meet the hot socialites.

 

[pete101]

@Pete: I am surprised to hear good things about London because I have always felt that White British women exclusively go for black and white men. When I visited the UK, it puzzled me as to how many white girls I saw there with black or mixed black looking guys but rarely any with pakistanis, indians, asians, or other minority groups. I am sure the brits in here can confirm that but I saw how the blacks and whites were mixing a lot but the indians and pakistanis were on their own.

At cafes I overheard conversations between brits who were openly talking about how much they hated those "dirty pakis" and I didn't get a good impression of the UK. Happy that I wasn't there for a long time, had a lot more fun in other European countries.

tbh, you can't really generalize about white british women, you have to segment it into upper/middle/lower class, and also from london or outside of london i.e. northerners.. in london you see lots of white women with black guys BUT they're not really from affluent backgrounds, normally middle or lower class white british women from london do, having said that i have seen a few with upper class white women who do but it depends on what you define upper class as.. UK is strange because you can have someone who makes more money than someone else yet is lower class and the other is middle, it's not as simple as just money as the determining factor.

but yeah you generally won't see any white women (irrespective of british, because in london everyone is foreign esp in central london) with asian, indian, pakistani etc, however you will see them with arabs, middle easterns etc not quite as much as you do with black guys but in certain circles you'll see more of it.

pakistani's, indians, asians get a raw deal also cos media in the UK is very anti muslim and lot of scaremongering esp with current climate, terrorism etc.. so right now it's particularly worse.. but having said that i have seen some with hot white/caucasian women.. but usually it's when they're rich or rich kids and go to some elite school or something.

ironically you'll find a lot of eastern european blonde women with south asian (indian, pakistani, bangladeshi, sri lankan) guys.. they're like the new migrants so get a raw deal too for some reason as in people see them as 'lower class' as they're new but yeah it's not uncommon to see a dark brown guy with a tall blonde lithuanian blonde, i've seen it more than once on a few occasions.

but anyway with your deal where you are, literally, you just have to dress better more specfically like a successful stylish man, think suave italian banker, that's the look to go for if you want to be taken seriously by a socialite type.

 

[backbreaker]

i've put alot (not really lol) of thought into this and OP, I have your solution

you need to get, or acquire about 1000 dollars or so, and go get you a high end, all american, blond hair blue eyed, 5'10 C cup college aged escort.


Obsession happens when you have an overwhelmingly one sided view point of a person, or people or whatever. Like I got over my oneitis, as soon as we actually started seriously hanging out. I saw that she had some issues, some real flaws, that while she was still attractive, it made her more human. Just like me. I thought she was hot, but I no longer thought she was worth the effort. Before that, I thought she was worth the effort beucase I thought she was perfect, and I thought she was perfect beucase she only allowed me to see of her what she wanted em to see of her and she's all i thought about.


You need to spend the night with the girl that you fantasize about and post about, you need to talk to them, you need to be around them, you need to have sex with them and realize they are human too. not worth as much effort as you put in them.


Your issue is not even "leagues" it's penalization of young attractive, college aged sorority type white women. To you, any woman that fits this mode, is out of your league. You literally look up to this type of woman.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

It might just be an environment thing but black guys do amazing with white girls in Northern California are pretty much the only minority group a lot of the attractive white girls will date. Let me put it this way, despite the high mexican and asian population in the bay area, you will still see more white girls with black guys. When I have visited San Diego, I was almost shocked as to how many white girls that looked good were dating asian and latino men but as soon as I came to the bay area it pretty much stopped.

I believe that black guys have a completely different experience with white women than other minority groups and I have seen it and experienced it for myself. All these "liberal" white girls will be supernice to a black guy and a lot will even sleep with one to prove how they aren't racist but to other minorities they are not nearly as kind. This is mostly a bay area thing though, when I lived on the east coast and in more conservative areas, I found that white women were a lot nicer to me and even friendlier.

Me and backbreaker have argued this in the past when he talked about the south, I found white girls in the south to be kind and receptive to me but backbreaker has said he had a tough time there.

But who gives a **** about all that, the truth is you guys are right. For some reason I have this rich blonde who is likely spoiled but has amazing looks practically stay on my mind. That right there is the bigger picture to me, I just had so many things running through my head because I saw arguably one of the best looking girls ever and couldn't get myself to approach. Guess boundaries are meant to be broken then.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

@Pete:

Ya I have noticed that too, it seems like slavic women and white women that aren't anglo have less of a hangup about going for guys that fall in the category of not being white or black. I have met a few russian women who have dated latinos, indians, and even asians. What it seems like is that anglo women have these standards to where if you aren't a black or white male, they see you as undesirable or not worthy of a f*ck, relationship, or ONS.

 

[asa_don]

Lmao.

Youre concerned about "race baiting" when the posts being made in this thread are on topic? Several posters in this thread have addressed race with regard to dating, so I dont see how its off-topic making an observation on a particular subset of guys.

Funny how you get all bent out of shape about that post, yet you basically nod your head in agreement with the obvious racist trolls that constantly post in the Anything Else forum. What a clown. So its prejudice when a man of color speaks about dating issues regarding other men of color? Yet you dont call out the dudes in the AE forum that go as far as to make excuses for police when an innocent person is gunned down? Where's the consistency in you calling out "race baiting"?

you are one of the biggest race master baiters in this forum jaylan.

race has been brought into this thread because of the trolls, danger pointed that out.

i've been an impartial poster here, a straight shooter, calling it as i see it.

i called out noobology in the past for his race post just as well as yours and backbreaker, race shouldn't be made an issue to complain, i've always said that.

once again you make sh!t up against me, lie, attack me to push your racist agenda in the forum.

i spoke out against a racist post towards blacks, just as i did when you posted a race baiting thread, you laughed when a white man was shot by a black cop, i showed remorse when an innocent black guy was shot, quit your lying, i already called you out for your b.s., anybody can read my posts in my history to see what's up, they can see all your b.s. in yours.

 

[Jaylan]

^Lol @ you making up facts. I never laughed at anyone dying. I laughed at the racist trolls who created a sh!t thread. And you were very quick to run into threads defending the race trolls who made excuses for innocent people being killed. Anyone can go look in those threads and see the facts.

Gimme a break fool.

 

[skinnyguy]

It might just be an environment thing but black guys do amazing with white girls in Northern California are pretty much the only minority group a lot of the attractive white girls will date. Let me put it this way, despite the high mexican and asian population in the bay area, you will still see more white girls with black guys. When I have visited San Diego, I was almost shocked as to how many white girls that looked good were dating asian and latino men but as soon as I came to the bay area it pretty much stopped.

I believe that black guys have a completely different experience with white women than other minority groups and I have seen it and experienced it for myself. All these "liberal" white girls will be supernice to a black guy and a lot will even sleep with one to prove how they aren't racist but to other minorities they are not nearly as kind. This is mostly a bay area thing though, when I lived on the east coast and in more conservative areas, I found that white women were a lot nicer to me and even friendlier.

Me and backbreaker have argued this in the past when he talked about the south, I found white girls in the south to be kind and receptive to me but backbreaker has said he had a tough time there.

But who gives a **** about all that, the truth is you guys are right. For some reason I have this rich blonde who is likely spoiled but has amazing looks practically stay on my mind. That right there is the bigger picture to me, I just had so many things running through my head because I saw arguably one of the best looking girls ever and couldn't get myself to approach. Guess boundaries are meant to be broken then.

Lol I couldn't have said it better. Yes, black guys clean up with white girls out here in the Bay. San Diego white girls are much hotter, but I don't think they dip in the chocolate as much.

Girls in the south are incredibly receptive to me and I've given multiple examples. That girl from Dallas who I met in Mexico. That HB 8 white girl who I hooked up with in Austin the first night I went out. Guess how many white girls I have hooked up with in Cali? Yup, big fat zero. Indian guys have a horrible rap out here due to the tech industry and H1-B visas, which is why I'm out of here once I get a good job in TX.

I agree with Jaylan that a certain accent can kill your chances with women.

Many guys on SS will never understand women's racial preferences based on their geographic location. But the truth is, it exists. I have seen it with my own eyes and your game with women is affected by it. I pulled some hotties in the South with very little game. Even in San Diego I was like a completely different person.

 

[backbreaker]

I think my fustrtion and most people's frustration with the OP and yoyu to some extent skinnyguy is that we've..YOU'VE ESTABLISHED already, 100 times, that it exists.


I think even the most trolllist of trolls can comprehend that certain people have certain built in advantages. But after you established that in hte first 5 threads, now what?


Another thing that pisses, at least me off, is referring to people as "black's clean up" or "hispanics do this" or whatever. I'm a business owner, I'm a piano player. I'm a gym rat. I'm a horse racing lover. I'm a lot of things other than a black guy, and I assure you that women, think the same way too. that hot broad that you saw at starbucks is a daughter,, she probably likes a certain type of music, she has a fav tv show, she likes to eat certain things, she's a real live person, she's more than a "white girl" who the **** wants to date someone who is that narrow minded? Women don't want to be reffered to or thought of as in the same status as deer lol "welp got me a 12 point white girl yesterday" lol


but more than even that, is that you are trivializing white people, like they don't' have problems. They don't have YOUR problems per say but they have problems. My best friend, a white female.. right now her BF asks her to pick out an engagement ring and to start planning their wedding, that he can't afford because he doesn't have a real job lol so she knows she's going to get suck paying most of it which means she can't move out of the house and get her own place, but she loves him so she doesn't know what to do... her dad is in the hospital, she hates her 9-5 job, and she owns her own business which is ready to grow but she can't put money into the business, because now she has to pay for a wedding lol meaning she's probably stuck at the 9-5 job that she hates.

i mena, you act like, being white is the cure all be all end of all problems and you act like you being a minority is the cause of all your problems I'm a minority as well and while I will agree that it can present problems,, and i don't really want to compare problems, **** everyone has problems. white people are not problem free. just because you're white doesn't mean you're going to be good looking lol or born into a good family or born in a good place, or be stuck taking care of your parents when you are 30 or that you're not going to be social awkward, etc.


so you're a minority and you like white women, yet you do not have the same success with white women, as white men have. I just summed up 199 posts in 1 sentence lol.


****, even if i made you white today, if i took out my magic wand and granted you the ability to make white women have a thing for Asians... what makes you thinks he's going to like YOU lol?


my point being, that you can mind**** yourself all night long. If you want to date white women, and you are at a disadvantage there are only 2 things you can do.

1. become better

2. keep trying



I mean, I'm not one to talk and blast me to hell I know i have issues lol. But this, here, is not one of them. i don't ***** about **** I can't change. You say the strruggle is real. Well **** keep grinding. That's all you can do.

 

[Jaylan]

^lmfao you are so obsessed with that thread. Thanks for continually posting this nonsense for everyone to see what a liar you are. No where did I ever say whites deserved anything. You cannot directly quote me on what youre accusing because I never said that. Stop making your own interpretations from what I said. You cannot even directly quote where I said whites deserved anything like Ive asked you several times to do. What do you have to inject your own meaning into what I said? Wheres the direct quote of my saying anyone deserved displacement?

What I said is that whites have displaced natives, hence the past influenced the present. I never uttered the words deserve or implied such. So keep trying to prove something that was never said, and youll continue to look foolish and like an obsessed butthurt troll. Again, I will repeat since you have a hard time understanding, I said that whites displaced natives and that it would be stupid to swing an conversation into the direction you tried to take it, without acknowledging the past and its affects on the present. My dismissive tone towards your post was because you tried to swing an unrelated Ukraine invasion thread into a discussion about white people and immigration.

Anyone can go read through that thread and see how hard you try to put words in someone elses mouth. You always do that when you dont like what someone posts. Instead of taking the post for what its words actually say, you try to assign your own meaning to it in order to start an argument.

Get the fvk over it and move on. Youre behaving like a damn woman now. Holding onto some sh!t from the past and then twisting the facts. Grow up bro and quit misrepresenting the posts of others and having selective memory of facts.

PS - lmao @ you keeping score. That just says it all about how seriously you take forum disagreements and how much ego you have invested here. I hope youre little scoreboard makes you feel good