Do we as Men expect too much?

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

why so serious man?

women are human beings, too.

haven't you had a warm glass of wine with a woman in your whole life?

Now you're putting words in my mouth.

I enjoy women for the sexual pleasure they give me. Many of the women I go out with, see me as a potential provider. An object to be used to provide her a lifestyle of comfort. I have no intention of being a pack mule for a woman, so I use them before they use me.

They want to play me, I play them before they get the chance.


Now I know what you're going to say, what if a guy did that to your sister.

I love my sister very much, she was the only one to send me care packages when I was locked up. If a man was to ever harm her, I would take care of him. My brother, a chicago police officer would also take care of him.

As for the game, my sister is a player. If she got played, then that's the way the game is. She knows the rules of the game.

 

[Boilermaker]

Now you're putting words in my mouth.

I enjoy women for the sexual pleasure they give me. Many of the women I go out with, see me as a potential provider. An object to be used to provide her a lifestyle of comfort. I have no intention of being a pack mule for a woman, so I use them before they use me.

They want to play me, I play them before they get the chance.


Now I know what you're going to say, what if a guy did that to your sister.

I love my sister very much, she was the only one to send me care packages when I was locked up. If a man was to ever harm her, I would take care of him. My brother, a chicago police officer would also take care of him.

As for the game, my sister is a player. If she got played, then that's the way the game is. She knows the rules of the game.

no I am not going to take a stance. I was curious about your story. I am here to learn and improve. A lot of people get this nickname of theirs they see on the screen pretty seriously; then become too cool to show their weaknesses... Every beginner is already a "character". Well, what's the point of writing here if everybody is already fvcking alpha?

I am just beginning; so wish me luck!

 

[jafyk]

why so serious man?

women are human beings, too.

haven't you had a warm glass of wine with a woman in your whole life?

Lol, the only time I tried that. I ended up spraying her daughter across the from me, lol. Glad that embarrassing moment didn't end up awkward. The daughter who was 12 found it hilarious. Why I had that reaction still don't know why. I've always had my wine cold though.

I think this guy's hb should be a 9. My my my must make the girl's I've thought were 7's look like 4s, lol.

 

[Fuglydude]

Props to you bro for pulling such a nice looking girl. Us Asians and East Indian have it very hard in the game.

Yes, I do have a cynical attitude towards women. It comes from experience. After going out with 123 women, I have a pretty good idea of what they are like and I don't like what I've discovered.

http://theasianlover.com/my-women/

If you want to have a 1 on 1 relationship, that's your decision. For me that just doesn't make sense, like having all my money in 1 stock. If the stock goes up, great you're making a lot of money, if the stock goes to 0, well... you're bankrupt.

Haha, that's awesome you kept track of all the girls you've dated!! I can see your point of not wanting to settle down until you're older. I think we're fundamentally hardwired to seek out sexual variety, and yes being monogamous, I definitely miss that variety. Sex w/ my fiance is great though, as she's a total sick phuck...

Do you think you're perhaps pursuing the wrong kind of woman, as in my experience most women aren't as parasitic as you describe. When/if you're ready to settle down, you'll probably have to change your mindset towards women to attract LTR-worthy ones.

I'm not sure if race is more of an issue the US vs. up here in Canada. As I said, I'm east indian but I've pretty much mostly done white girls with a few mixes and an asian thrown in there. In my experience white girls are the easiest, Asian girls don't really go for me (unless they're older), and East Indian girls are too much damn work. We have very few black women here. Haha, the closest I've ever gotten with East indian girls was doing a stagette for a group of em a few years back.

Most people never guess that I'm east indian. I get everything from Mulatto to hispanic to all sorts of phucked up mixes, but very few people guess what I really am.

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

@Boiler: I'm glad you're on a path of self improvement. It's a male trait to never show weakness. Truth be told, the game has never been easy for me, many of the women that go out with me see me only as a potential provider. It's only been a small percentage, about a quarter, that were genuinely attracted to me, they liked Asian guys.

@Fugly: Yeah, I've heard from quite a few people that it's very different in Canada. Here in the states, being a racial minority is like wearing a scarlet letter. You can definitely pass for Hispanic, a lot of white women go for that look. As for the women I go for, they can be broken into two categories.

1. They think I have money. So they try to size up my business and my assets. This is about 75%.

2. They like the way I look. They are attracted to tough, muscular, Asian men. This is about 25%.

 

[The Inside Man]

Also keep in mind, I'm a player.

Trying so hard man. The website, always posting a link to it.. you just don't want people to see through that huh ? If you were a true player you wouldn't care and wouldn't spend so much time trying to get VALIDATION.

Have you ever had an actual relationship?

 

[Duffdog]

Its always better to listen to guys who are actually doing what you want to do than guys who...ain't. So, if you were going to listen to the opinion of a dude about girls, which opinion would you listen to? It serves you to heed the advise of guys who regularly pull and KEEP hot girls and ignore the guys who suck at it.

Thats how I learned, and it paid off extremely well for me. Hopefully other guys reading this thread will be able to figure out who actually gets the hot b1tches and who does not.

peace.

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

Trying so hard man. The website, always posting a link to it.. you just don't want people to see through that huh ? If you were a true player you wouldn't care and wouldn't spend so much time trying to get VALIDATION.

Have you ever had an actual relationship?

Yes. I don't much care for them.

I prefer sexual variety. It seems like we're from two different worlds. You want a girl you can fall in love with. How sweet...

Like talking to a martian.

 

[The Inside Man]

Yes. I don't much care for them.

I prefer sexual variety. It seems like we're from two different worlds. You want a girl you can fall in love with. How sweet...

Like talking to a martian.

Two different worlds, exactly. Since I went through my "player" phase a few years after losing my virginity, just like you now, I started to realize that it's not all black and white. That was about 8 years ago. I haven't been in a relationship for a year, preferring to hook up with hot girls that I have chemistry with instead, mainly STRs. But I am open to the possibility. The world doesn't have to be as cold hearted as you think it is right now, girls trying to get providers and guys pumping and dumping. But you will never know if you close yourself off to the infinite possibilites of life.

I'll let you in on a secret.. the best sex comes with a really hot girl that is really into you. Not necessarily in a relationship either. I'll take the one hot girl I had sex with in October over any of the 6s and 7s you had during the last month.

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

Two different worlds, exactly. Since I went through my "player" phase a few years after losing my virginity, just like you now, I started to realize that it's not all black and white. That was about 8 years ago. I haven't been in a relationship for a year, preferring to hook up with hot girls that I have chemistry with instead, mainly STRs. But I am open to the possibility. The world doesn't have to be as cold hearted as you think it is right now, girls trying to get providers and guys pumping and dumping. But you will never know if you close yourself off to the infinite possibilites of life.

I'll let you in on a secret.. the best sex comes with a really hot girl that is really into you. Not necessarily in a relationship either. I'll take the one hot girl I had sex with in October over any of the 6s and 7s you had during the last month.

I have my own life experiences, thank you very much and I don't need you to tell me how life is.

You do you, and I'll do me. Thanks for the "advice"

 

[Fuglydude]

@Boiler: I'm glad you're on a path of self improvement. It's a male trait to never show weakness. Truth be told, the game has never been easy for me, many of the women that go out with me see me only as a potential provider. It's only been a small percentage, about a quarter, that were genuinely attracted to me, they liked Asian guys.

@Fugly: Yeah, I've heard from quite a few people that it's very different in Canada. Here in the states, being a racial minority is like wearing a scarlet letter. You can definitely pass for Hispanic, a lot of white women go for that look. As for the women I go for, they can be broken into two categories.

1. They think I have money. So they try to size up my business and my assets. This is about 75%.

2. They like the way I look. They are attracted to tough, muscular, Asian men. This is about 25%.

Even in Canada, I see VERY VERY few white girls w/ asian guys... I can think of three couples I know off the top of my head, but that's it. Typically, the asian guys are jacked as shiite. My fiance was saying she generally finds asian guys too feminine. She's normally attracted to hypermasculine guys. You'll usually see asian guys w/ asian girls here. There's tons of smoking hot asian chics. I love how tiny and submissive many of them are... makes you wanna destroy their snatches.

As far as East Indian guys go... I think they're mostly w/ brown girls. The guys that do get white girls are typically in above average shape, are taller and generally more outgoing. I've met/seen some really hot East Indian girls in my time. Wish I had tried harder to screw more of em...

I wonder why the situation is so different in the US vs. Canada. I'm planning on moving to the US in the next few years, so it'll be interesting to see what kinda IOIs I get down there as compared to up here. Any idea on why there's such a big difference between the two neighboring countries? Is the US fundamentally more racially oriented maybe?

 

[lifeislearning]

...because while you're out there trying to chase validation, guys are out there who are secure with themselves enough to know they can show your girl a good time. Guys who may not be as good-looking or rich or have as much "game", but who are damned good at being THEMSELVES and working for what they WANT instead of chasing some imagined status and trying to get people to like them.

I envy the man who is chasing his dreams. I pity the man who is busy trying to convince others that he has already caught them.

Thats my bread and butter pal. It's the only way to be happy. Cool thing is only I can make or break my happiness.

Fuglydude, I really dig your mindset.

Asianlover, you sound so paranoid in this thread. Watch this clip from The Wedding Singer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyJ3HAK71fo
"No one wants to see a 50 year old guy hitting on chicks." Now I'm not saying be more like Adam Sandler's character in this movie, but someday we will all grow old and the prospect of being a player will start to reveal just how sad it really is.

Back to topic, of course we ask too much. We should. Think of every girl you've ever been with, for 5 minutes or 5 years. Think of every thing you liked about them. One person is supposed to measure up to ALL THAT for the rest of your life? Damn. Tough shoes to fill. We should expect more, not less.

That being said my only priorities for dating a woman are:
1. Be interesting
2. Have a good sense of humor
3. Have a desire to explore life

And beyond that I have ceased to set strict guidelines. Some qualifications will never be an issue (if you're a swamp creature I'll never hit on you in the first place) and others I've had in the past I later find are not as important as I once thought. Often, something I had no interest in I later discover is great. For everything else I just let time and shared experiences dictate how far we go.

I am looking for a worthy partner. Not a maid, not a wh*re, not a cook. I have no delusions about how women act or what they are, and I have every intention of being the head of the household, but this in no way means I want a subservient wife. I think the woman who does eventually make the cut will differ from the others in the high level of respect she earns from me. I'm looking for someone I respect at every level, just as I demand for myself. Tough shoes to fill? Absolutely.

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

Even in Canada, I see VERY VERY few white girls w/ asian guys... I can think of three couples I know off the top of my head, but that's it. Typically, the asian guys are jacked as shiite. My fiance was saying she generally finds asian guys too feminine. She's normally attracted to hypermasculine guys. You'll usually see asian guys w/ asian girls here. There's tons of smoking hot asian chics. I love how tiny and submissive many of them are... makes you wanna destroy their snatches.

As far as East Indian guys go... I think they're mostly w/ brown girls. The guys that do get white girls are typically in above average shape, are taller and generally more outgoing. I've met/seen some really hot East Indian girls in my time. Wish I had tried harder to screw more of em...

I wonder why the situation is so different in the US vs. Canada. I'm planning on moving to the US in the next few years, so it'll be interesting to see what kinda IOIs I get down there as compared to up here. Any idea on why there's such a big difference between the two neighboring countries? Is the US fundamentally more racially oriented maybe?

Wow, I thought asian guys in canada had it easier.

I do well in the game because my parents are from korea, a country known for it's brutality. My father and older brother beat out any remaining softness in me.

East coast is the most racist area, I visited Boston and it sucked ass. I live in Chicago and it's not that bad. The south is bad for my black brothers, asian people are an oddity since no asians live in the south.

I never visited the west coast, though I plan on traveling there.

Europe has a class system based on aristocracy. The U.S. and Latin America have a class system based on race. Same with Australia and New Zealand.

I don't know why Canada is different.

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

Thats my bread and butter pal. It's the only way to be happy. Cool thing is only I can make or break my happiness.

Fuglydude, I really dig your mindset.

Asianlover, you sound so paranoid in this thread. Watch this clip from The Wedding Singer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyJ3HAK71fo
"No one wants to see a 50 year old guy hitting on chicks." Now I'm not saying be more like Adam Sandler's character in this movie, but someday we will all grow old and the prospect of being a player will start to reveal just how sad it really is.

Back to topic, of course we ask too much. We should. Think of every girl you've ever been with, for 5 minutes or 5 years. Think of every thing you liked about them. One person is supposed to measure up to ALL THAT for the rest of your life? Damn. Tough shoes to fill. We should expect more, not less.

That being said my only priorities for dating a woman are:
1. Be interesting
2. Have a good sense of humor
3. Have a desire to explore life

And beyond that I have ceased to set strict guidelines. Some qualifications will never be an issue (if you're a swamp creature I'll never hit on you in the first place) and others I've had in the past I later find are not as important as I once thought. Often, something I had no interest in I later discover is great. For everything else I just let time and shared experiences dictate how far we go.

I am looking for a worthy partner. Not a maid, not a wh*re, not a cook. I have no delusions about how women act or what they are, and I have every intention of being the head of the household, but this in no way means I want a subservient wife. I think the woman who does eventually make the cut will differ from the others in the high level of respect she earns from me. I'm looking for someone I respect at every level, just as I demand for myself. Tough shoes to fill? Absolutely.

I don't give a f*ck what you think or what Adam Sandler thinks.

I've chosen my own path in life.

 

[Fuglydude]

Wow, I thought asian guys in canada had it easier.

I do well in the game because my parents are from korea, a country known for it's brutality. My father and older brother beat out any remaining softness in me.

East coast is the most racist area, I visited Boston and it sucked ass. I live in Chicago and it's not that bad. The south is bad for my black brothers, asian people are an oddity since no asians live in the south.

I never visited the west coast, though I plan on traveling there.

Europe has a class system based on aristocracy. The U.S. and Latin America have a class system based on race. Same with Australia and New Zealand.

I don't know why Canada is different.

I've heard from many people that Canada is less racist than the US. Probably has something to do with the history of slavery and what not...

Whatever man, there's plenty of HOT asian girls here for them to choose from. Pound-for-pound asian guys are some of the physically strongest guys I've ever seen. Smart as shiite too... Asian and East indians make up more MDs, pharmacists, engineers, PhDs, and other higher-end professions than any other racial group I can think of. Plus what's up w/ Asian people and not aging?? I'll have had 70-year-old asian patients who are critically ill, but still look like they're only 50 or so.

All-in-all I think you guys have a pretty good deal.

 

[Colossus]

Not really sure what the original subject here was but since we're on the race thing i gotta chime in---

In the US social class is very much based on race, albeit decreasingly so. It depends on the region. Here's my own anecdotal breakdown:

White girls: comprise the majority of my relationships and hook-ups. Really variable, but all in all I would say they have the best skin and pvssy, comparable only to latin women. The thing is white women tend not to age well, and there is really too much variety to characterize them much beyond that. They range from common ore to head-turning gems.

Black girls: I've had my fair share of black girls. For a while I was into them, but overall I find them to be crass, rude, and demanding. Not my cup of tea for a gf. Plus---and this is a fact---they have much higher HIV rates than white women, at least here in the mid-atlantic. 1 in 83 black women in Delaware are estimated to have active HIV. Reason enough for me to steer clear. Physically they tend to have rougher, more taut skin, not-so-nice hair, and ok pvssy. Just my experience, dont jump down my throat.

Latin girls: Looooooovvvve me some latin women!!! South American is best. I dated a Brazilian for some time and have been with Argentinians and Mexicans. Aggressive, passionate lovers...but they can be highly jealous, proud, and hot-headed. Physically they tend to have good skin, great bodies, and great pvssy. Very feminine without the entitlement, best overall package IMO.

Asians: Dont like 'em. The women, that is...just not attracted to them. I find their attitudes often suck. I've never been with one so I cant comment on physicality.

Indian: There is quite a bit of variety with Indian women and I think they can go from exotic and alluring to just downright not-my-thing. However, I find them to be the MOST cold and disinterested toward white men so I have never broken into this demographic. Would certainly like to at some point. Indian men are some smart mofo's, and often hilarious.

 

[lifeislearning]

Straight from the feminazi playbook.

There is nothing sad about pursuing what you want in life.

No sir, this comes from a real man. If all you pursue in life is p*ssy then yes, that is sad. Try setting some higher life goals, or all you boil down to is a walking p*nis. The extreme majority of self professed payers live only for p*ssy, and they don't care is it comes from snaggle-toothed whales either. What does that say about YOUR value if you have no selection process for who you bang? Too many on these forums get caught up in the sex and just stop their development there. What a waste.

 

[Boilermaker]

Too many on these forums get caught up in the sex and just stop their development there. What a waste.

Well, you may be watching too much Mystery and Eben Pagan video clips, but NO, not a lot of people are getting caught up in the sex in these forums. In fact, these forums are the only place on the entire web where you can get genuine and rock solid advice from people who are NOT selling anything, and doing what they do only for fun.

What do you even know about personal goals and achievements of the majority of people who come here anyway, especially the older folks?... Judging by your post count, you are either too recent to make an observation of that sort, or you are a hateful sockpuppet of an older member.

If you expect the main topic to be "How to Make a Million Dollars" in Sosuave, you are in the wrong department, although personal improvement and higher goals are MORE THAN frequently mentioned in this forum ...

Pointless rant.