Do older chicks like AFCs?

[DJinArizona]

The more I learn from this site and put into practice, the easier it is for me to naturally be a DJ with the women I date. In fact, even when I like someone a lot, I can't bring myself to see her more than once a week or call more than once or twice a week for the first month or so. It feels very unnatural to me and I'm just not comfortable with it.

That's the good news.

Here's the bad news (maybe):

I'm 30 and a lot of the women I go out with are right around my age, give or take 2 years. While being a major Challenge works wonders with the early/mid 20s chicks, it seems that it can backfire with the late 20s/early 30s chicks. Now I know that being a challenge works and that a guy MUST be a challenge to succeed with ANY woman, but is too much challenge a bad thing with these older chicks? I'm noticing a pattern that if I go out with a chick who's 20 or 25, they go wild over it and want me so badly it's not even funny. But if I go out with a chick who's 28 or 30, it seems to throw them off-balance to the point where they become uncomfortable and we all know that's not a good thing.

It's a known fact that women at this age want to settle down and get married and therefore want a guy who's LTR material... so does anyone out there have any input on how much challenge is too much and what, if anything, to do differently with these women?

 

[kossalex]

what is it that you want from these older chicks?

 

[( . )( . )]

Originally posted by kossalex
what is it that you want from these older chicks?

long moonlit walks on the beach ?, a friend ?, someone who appreciates him for who he is ? , someone for them to cry all there problems on his shoulder ? (buzzer sound)

the correct answer folks is? yes thats right PUSS

but in all seriousness I too am hoping for an intelligent answer on what the older chicks want, all my (il never use the term "girlfriend") chick friends have been under 25

 

[DJinArizona]

Pretty simple... the same thing I want from all chicks I date... see them once or twice a week, have fun, and get laid. Once we get to about 60 days, if she's still around then I'll start thinking about LTR material. But until then I want casual and fun. The problem is that a lot of women around 30 want to rush into a serious relationship within a month.

 

[icehot]

I think that women are used to setting the pace of the relationship. Then along comes a DJ like us, not following the "game plan" and they get thrown for a loop.

-iceH

 

[DJinArizona]

Originally posted by icehot
I think that women are used to setting the pace of the relationship. Then along comes a DJ like us, not following the "game plan" and they get thrown for a loop.

-iceH

I agree 100% but usually that works to our advantage... it causes them to respect us more and therefore become more attracted to us. But the 30-ish chicks throw off this desperate vibe, even the hot ones, and many seem turned off by challenge. I wouldn't even call it challenge - the fact that I'm not a total wussy AFC calling them everyday is enough to weird them out.

 

[( . )( . )]

Originally posted by DJinArizona
the fact that I'm not a total wussy AFC calling them everyday is enough to weird them out.

LOL, and who says its a MANS world ?

 

[DJinArizona]

Originally posted by ( . )( . )
LOL, and who says its a MANS world ?

Hmm ... okay, enough said... lol

 

[Bud Wiser]

As the resident "I only date chicks over 30" guy here, I can say that challenge works with these women, but parse it out appropriately.

For instance, calling intervals of five to seven days are way out of bounds. Four days works fine for me.

Being a bit mysterious? That's been successful for me, too.

****y/funny? Works like crazy. Mind you, I'm not a master at this yet, but what I've tried so far has been great! Especially so with the HBs. No matter what the age, "girls just wanna have fun."

Another thing -- women in this category (30-55) have a lot more choices nowadays: personals websites, singles clubs, etc., so the despreation level is lower than you'd think for many. What's more, many are staying in better shape and looking pretty damn hot for any age. Example: one lady I date is 50+ and still turns younger men's heads. And she's practically wearing me out in the sack! The other is mid thirties and never fails to grab attention.

That said, there's no getting around the fact that most women in this age group are highly experienced at dating. Their "agenda detectors" are fine tuned. So it's important to bring your "A" game and keep it all smooth and natural. And, yes, they can smell desperation ten miles away; another reason why it's important to be a true DJ around the 30+ women.

 

[Technocrap]

My 2 cents is

older women want Men who are nice and tough
young women want Men who are tough and nice

see the precedence? There is a mix its not all or
nothing but if you cant be a basic man i.e. tough then you
going to find it hard to get women.

The older they are the less of jerk she want to see
but you still got to be a man. But without the BS attitude
show your manlyness in other ways not with the BS
attitude. A real man is assertive and is in control. Not out
of control like a jerk.

Young girl just want jerks that and are fun guy. They dont
need to settle down so i guess the aittude aint a problem.

Older women know they dont want an a$$hole.

That my thinking anyway. Any comments on my theory?

 

[GQ Prettyboy]

Young women are for challenge. Older women are looking for persistence.

 

[Bud Wiser]

Originally posted by Technocrap
My 2 cents is

older women want Men who are nice and tough
young women want Men who are tough and nice

see the precedence? There is a mix its not all or
nothing but if you cant be a basic man i.e. tough then you
going to find it hard to get women.

The older they are the less of jerk she want to see
but you still got to be a man. But without the BS attitude
show your manlyness in other ways not with the BS
attitude. A real man is assertive and is in control. Not out
of control like a jerk.

Young girl just want jerks that and are fun guy. They dont
need to settle down so i guess the aittude aint a problem.

Older women know they dont want an a$$hole.

That my thinking anyway. Any comments on my theory?

Great observation, Mr. Technocrap. After age 26 or so, women are much less attracted to all-out jerks.

After that, from what I've experienced, the 30+ woman on the surface may be all, "I'm looking for a nice guy," when she really means, "strap me onto a snortin' hunk o' man meat and let 'er rip!"

And, yes, a man who exhibits control probably becomes even more of a hot button for the over-30 woman. I know of at least one woman who dumped a recent BF because he was "indecisive and let me plan everything."

By the way, these women still want to be around a fun guy; but now their definition of "fun guy" changes from Jerky Boy to Jokey Boy.

 

[Unbridled_1]

I agree, especially chicks that have been through a divorce.

 

[tamales]

Bud Wiser! You couldn't be more right. I am thirty something, I have my career, a home and all in all happy. I would love to meet the man of my dreams.. but I am sick to death of men in their 30s or older who haven't a clue as to what they want. The type of men that even making the simplest decision, like where to eat.. is hard.

In short, we want a man with a plan who isn't afraid to go after what he wants. The tryp of man that exudes condidence, humor, strength and intelligence. And if he likes to shop at nice stores with me and for him then all the better JK...

I loved your posts. I think it's the fact that women only get better with age. I mean at 20 something I was a complete flake.. I had no clue what I wanted and honestly, I couldn't imagine having settled down then.. Or even a couple of years ago. I was out having fun, doing the career thing, traveling. ALl depends. ANd these days there are so many options.

Love is harder to find than I thought but the road there is fun.

Bud- I would like to get your input on a situation if I may involving an ex bf that I dated briefly, who has come back into my life? Can I post here or pm you? DOn't want to thread jack.

 

[oskiano]

Tamales, get your a$$ back in bed and keep that yap shut...

 

[ShortTimer]

Originally posted by tamales
I think it's the fact that women only get better with age.

That's the funniest thing I read all day, thanks for cheering me up.

 

[STR8UP]

Originally posted by tamales
I think it's the fact that women only get better with age.

Better in that they have slightly more control over their emotions. Too bad the years don't tend to be kind to them physically.

 

[STR8UP]

And yes, older chicks do tend to be better able to spot good qualities in a man without relying on caveman cues like the younger ones do.

 

[vdk]

I still think older women still need a 'challenge' as doc love always points out. If you are not a challenge you'll be bored of the person which means the marriage will end in devorce. as we all know AFC's rarely challenge women.

 

[STR8UP]

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