Boilermaker said:
I think Roissy is being misunderstood, misquoted, and misinterpreted here.
a) Who says you have to have kids from 5-different women? This isn't BC 600, so if you don't want to have kids, you won't have kids. Period.
b) Who says you have to spin 5-plates at the same time and with the same rate?
You might as well adjust your time; rearrange it, and customize it to your liking. Some like Zarky, like more women at a given time, and some others like to be in LTRs. It's completely based on taste.
Roissy doesn't mean any of that. What he means is:
1) You are meant to be a free man and be able to choose from a harem of women. If you want to juggle more than one at a time, that's fine. Or if you want to concentrate your time and efforts in a non-eternal LTR, that is fine as well.
2) You are free from dogmas, buffers and moral clichés and you truly go after what you want. Rather, you discover what you want. One can only afford that after reaching his prime, without getting married, and having enough experience. "Enough" is subjective here, and will vary from person to person, obviously. If you still want to be monogamous, that's fine. But first you have to prove to yourself that you called the shots yourself, through your own judgement and not through "learned helplessness" and/or mandatory rationalizations.
Simple as that.
this is one of those posts that you are just arguing because you can. I doubt you believe anything you actually just typed.
Who says you have to have kids from 5-different women? This isn't BC 600, so if you don't want to have kids, you won't have kids. Period.
Because in this hierarchy of harems, kids are currency. If there is no kids, there is no point from the woman's standpoint. In other words, the only reason that a woman would settle down and marry a guy who has 4 other wife's, is if the man was "man" enough to be the father of a large family and provide a more than adequate life style for her and her off spring. In short, she's giving up some.. personal pride if you will by not having a man to herself, for the 'greater good" which being the welfare of her and her off spring.
if there is no off spring, there is no point. There is no other reason
1. he can't **** her enough to satisfy her sexual needs on a daily basis
2. he can't spend enough time with her to satisfy her emotional needs
the only need that the guy can fulfill is that of the provider/father and if he isn't doing that, WTF is she there for?
lol you aren't the only guy on the forum that took AP lit my friend. I can read and comprehend as well. The motif of the thread is clearly that in today's marketplace , women are cleaning up attention and that avg females get just as much if not more attention then well above avg males.
Because men are not as desirable on the open market, they make the best of a **** sammich and turn scarcity into a virtue by devoting themselves to the one woman who will pay them attention.
And hell, he's not even particularly wrong on the above. That part he nails to a large extent. That's not what I have a problem with above. It's the next Quantum leap jump in logic he attempts to half ass throw together that I have a problem with.
his point by stating this
It’s different, of course, once women enter a sexual relationship. Then, they find it hard, and soul-crushing, to give themselves over to more than one man at a time. Men, in contrast, will happily screw many babes concurrently if they could get away with it. Most men can’t, so they pretend they have morals to explain their heavenly monogamy.
here, he makes a (****ty) assumption logical fallacy.. assuming that because I can't achieve something I want it. there is a lot of **** in life I can't do right now that I don't want to do. I can't buy an NBA team right now. **** i can't buy a ABA team right now lol. And you know what, could care less. I can't buy a fancy yacht. could care less I hate/am petrified of open water. I can't climb Mt. Everest right now, and even if i could you couldn't pay me to do it. Fvck that **** lol.
He's assuming beucase most men will never be able to date / fvck 4-5 women at a time that every man secrety wants this, and while this is true for some men that they wish to have this ability, it's not a fact like he is trying to present it
The vast majority of men, really just want a good looking woman to love and care for them, be a good mother, give them sex without being a **** about it. this really is the extent of most mens, including myselfs, sexual desires. At the end of the day this is all i really want.
But he knows his view base is full of sexually repressed guys and **** like that reads well to people like that. Of course to a guy who hasn't fvcked a HB5 in his entire life wants to hear how every guy secretly wants to fvck 5-6 women at once beucase that's what he wants to do beucase he has never had tha bilty, but that's not the vast majority of people whatsoever. There is a phase you go through when you just figure out what you are doing but once that is done that's way too much hassle.
and the reason I'm making such a stink about this post he made is beucase **** like this does more harm than it does good. It doesn't matter how much game /DJ material you read if you come out of the mansphere with a distorted sense of morality and reality. Women don't find militantism attractive, women like normal guys, and reading and believing **** like that, is not normal, thus you get more sucked into the web of woman hate becuase you still aren't getting any so the more distorted your point of view comes. it's a never ending cycle with that ****
here's where the logic falls flat on it's face
1. there are plenty of men in the world, in america particular who have the means to live this lifestyle if they so choose. men with status, looks, fame, money, yet the vast majority of men like this chose to live a quite traditional life with a single wife that they are devoted to. So you can't sit here and say the only reason that we don';t do this is beucase we can't when the people who can for the most part don't.
to even take it a step further.,.. some of these men, will get with a wife, have a kid or two, something happens and they get a divorce, they raped by the legal system. Most men would have a very good and justifiable reason to thump their nose at "tradition" but again the vast majority of men, can't wait to put a ring on another woman's finger.
Obviously there is more to this than meets the eye.
2. The entire plate spinning theory contradts his post. If i had 3 plates when I met my wife, how can you explain me dropping all three plates to be with her when by his logic the only reason I have one plate is beucase I can't have 3
it's a ****ty post (not yours his). I mean I respect you trying to dig deeper into the post and all but there isn o thing to dig to. it's a very shallow not well thought out post. He's the freaking Rush Limbaugh of the manosphere. he says **** that he knows will rile his fanbase up
