Do men even care anymore?

Borknagar

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Noticing less traffic from newcomers and male dating advice content in general. It seems to have fell after Andrew Tate was taken down. In addition, I notice higher female ratios out in public now as opposed to sausage fests.
I think a lot have. I've mostly given up myself. Bars are completely pointless these days. They are dead and most are sitting down with their group and not mingling. I'm not really seeing many woman in my day to day to approach. Online dating is completely useless. There aren't any options out there really, especially for a guy my age. At 45 my dating life is pretty much over.
 

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Whether you have a girlfriend/LTR or an escort you always pay.

With an escort the price is more explicit and upfront.

With a girlfriend/LTR you pay with your time, attention, activities, dates, doing all the non-sexual things you don’t want to really do for the sake of the relationship, paying rent/mortgage etc.

You may get companionship/ emotional closeness etc. with a girlfriend/LTR that you don’t get with an escort but it still comes at a price.

Nothing wrong with escorts (I’ve never used one but wouldn’t rule it out in the future as a much older guy when my looks really deteriorate, I’m 57 now) as long as you understand it’s purely transactional and you don’t expect anything more from them such as companionship/emotional intimacy.
No offense, but if you never tried it it's hard to say anything about the experience?

An escort and let's say just something superficial like a one night stand are two completely different galaxies. The fact that you're using escorts means you degrade yourself, you arr honry amd you need to nut. And she also degrade herself so it's a coming together of two troubled people. Evenif she's smoking hot like hb9 hot..the quest to concur a woman from scratch is waaaaaay better than a stale encounter restricted by time, knowing younF a woman who gets between5 or 10 or even 20 d1cks per day..

I've been to a handful as it's legal here and..
It's ALWAYS lacklustre at best. Very awkward and makes you wanna leave ASAP. You come ,take your clothes, dress yourself and you think to yourself " might as well jerkrd off for free.."

I can imagine thy a man in a stale ltr does it and then again it's something you won't talk about at the diner table during Christmas...

Nah, having to use prostitution isn't where a man wants to be. Even the prostitute will have a boyfriend, and most likely the sex she has at home is 180 different from "professional sex".

If you are fly as F, ripped and charming you might have a chance that she'll like it too, but IF you are on that level you might as well try EVERY other method as there's plenty of women who want d1ck..

Lastly, more and more women seem to back doen on crazy dating demands..I get offered walks in th bark, coffee dates or straight at her place...cost me nothing and the sex is REA L sex.
 

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I think a lot have. I've mostly given up myself. Bars are completely pointless these days. They are dead and most are sitting down with their group and not mingling. I'm not really seeing many woman in my day to day to approach. Online dating is completely useless. There aren't any options out there really, especially for a guy my age. At 45 my dating life is pretty much over.
Cope pure uncut cope
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You gonna regret this in few years bro....there are plenty hot women between 30 and 50( your target group).

You are unaware of the fact that a grown woman =a grown woman? Whether she is 19 or 49 won't matter that much.

The bar might not be how it used to be. STILL it's the absolute best place to meet women. Just assume that evey woman at the bar wants something. Be stupid about it. She has a bf? Okay! Next. They know they open themselves up to being approached.

Online dating ...all the cliche should be repeated: have some GOOD photos. Say some.bs in your bio that shows you know who you want, no joking or sacrassme. Be dumb and straight forward . In conversation however I recommend very light humor if a conversation flows.

Lastly you ALWAYS wanna have your antennas on sharp!. There ar now 100 women that would love to fick you ,been watching you sometimes secretly, some avoid eye contact with you...some will straight up approach you to ask something stupid ( but ofcourse you don't regonize it as such..)

The more you work on whatever needs work ,the more thse encounters wil take place. And more frequently...
 

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You gonna regret this in few years bro....there are plenty hot women between 30 and 50( your target group).

You are unaware of the fact that a grown woman =a grown woman? Whether she is 19 or 49 won't matter that much.

The bar might not be how it used to be. STILL it's the absolute best place to meet women. Just assume that evey woman at the bar wants something. Be stupid about it. She has a bf? Okay! Next. They know they open themselves up to being approached.

Online dating ...all the cliche should be repeated: have some GOOD photos. Say some.bs in your bio that shows you know who you want, no joking or sacrassme. Be dumb and straight forward . In conversation however I recommend very light humor if a conversation flows.

Lastly you ALWAYS wanna have your antennas on sharp!. There ar now 100 women that would love to fick you ,been watching you sometimes secretly, some avoid eye contact with you...some will straight up approach you to ask something stupid ( but ofcourse you don't regonize it as such..)

The more you work on whatever needs work ,the more thse encounters wil take place. And more frequently...
Nah, I'll be fine. Woman aren't really interested in me. If they were they can do it themselves. I just don't see the point in the effort. I'll be fine though. Barely got a libido anyway.
 

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Nah, I'll be fine. Woman aren't really interested in me. If they were they can do it themselves. I just don't see the point in the effort. I'll be fine though. Barely got a libido anyway.
Sad to hear a 45 y.o.man say this one A seduction forum...

Tons to unpack here..
 

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Sad to hear a 45 y.o.man say this one A seduction forum...

Tons to unpack here..
Yeah, but barely feeling motivated for sex is actually great. You can focus on other things. Just ****s can get stressful with work would be nice to have a woman to talk to but not necessary. I think it's a combination of age and meds that put me in that place.
 
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