Lexington said:
Then you should know enough about logic not to commit so many logical fallacies. And you should know that Wikipedia is not an acceptable academic source!
Being stuck out there in the middle of all those cornfields, it's small wonder you are so naive.
Oh my, the last thing I would ever want is to sound homosexual! OK, in the future, I will keep it more redneck for you!
Your puerile insult aside, I will
By the way, you never answered my question. Do you drink?
But ultimately, my points still stand:
-There is no evidence of chemical dependency on cannabis (you provided no evidence to the contrary)
-It is extremely difficult to fatally OD on cannabis
-Cannabis has less potential for addiction than nicotine and alcohol
-Withdrawal from cannabis is even milder than withdrawal from caffeine
-Alcohol use is as strongly or even more strongly correlated with abuse of "hard drugs" than cannabis
I mean i really didn't want to jump in this "debate" but this is pretty.. this is a pretty stupid debate. anyone who honestly thinks weed is just as / more dangerous than other hard drugs, or alcohol has exactly 0% experience with either weed or hard drugs. This is just silly on so many levels.
1. Weed is not addictive. I've been in AA/NA, I have seen.. probably over 500 addicts come threw the rooms of AA/NA, and outside of the ones that the court makes the people go to NA/AA I honestly don't know one person, not one, who was there because of Weed. That's no exaggeration. NOt saying that the people there didn't smoke weed, but that's not what drove them to recovery.
In fact it's quite the opposite. As a sponsor myself at one point, which is someone who walked a new recovering person through the 12 steps, someone who talks to their sponsees everyday to make sure they are doing okay and doing what they are supposed to do, more than once i've told a sponsee to go smoke a joint to make it through the night if they were having cravings really bad.. it eases the cravings and has prevented many serious relapses... i.e the marijuana maintenance program
(you don't have to tell me the hicprocy of someone in AA to go smoke a joint lol that's why I left, AA is too impractical.. to me, the way i see it if smoking a joint or 2 is going to keep you from going on a 500 dollar crack cocaine binge that will send you right back on the streets, then by all means light one up. But AA doesn't see it that way and a lot of people in AA relaspe for the stupid reason that AA makes them see alld rugs as equal)
2. There are only 2 drugs that have physical withdrawal symptoms.. As bad as crack/meth is, stimulants really don't have any physical withdraw symptoms.. outside of diarrhea and just wanting it really bad, you'll be okay for the most part.
the first is opiates. Not just heroin but pills like hydro's have very very bad withdrawal symptoms and you usually have to taper off the drug in combination with taking some type of medicine like methadone to get off the drug, because the physical withdraws can be very very bad.
the other is alcohol. If you are a serious alcoholic, like we are talking Bill Wilson level alcoholic not a guy that just has 2-3 six packs a week, like if you are in AA you will meet girls that have to have a 6 pack just to get out of bed and function. like once you get to that level, there is no cold turkey, you have to go to a hospital and get get detoxed. they have to put you on medication and keep you there for 3-4 days. and even with the medicine and being in a hospital ti's a *****, and this is before you can walk into any rehab
if you don't do this, you have a pretty damn good chance of dying.
i was in AA with a guy who was on federal probation and was a bad alcoholic, like the Bill Wilson level alcoholic, and his parole officer did not know he was drinking again, and he tired to get off, and the pain was so bad he called his parole officer and told them take me back to jail i dont' give a siht at this point but i have to go to detox. and he went back to jail.
and this coming from someone who wouldn not lose an ounce of sleep if weed was taken off the earth tomorrow. i could care less it's not bad but it's not something i have to have. I enjoy a good bourbon more than i weed, much more actually however I am not so ignorant as to the effects of alcohol where i can say it's more safe than weed is. it's not. it's not even close.
If the best weed was made in america and not by brown people in south and central america it would have been legalized it has nothing to do with the effects of the drug on you
And then to bring the conversation back to the OP's point, you can't be a hypocrite with women. so, you are hell bent on any girl who touches weed at all, but you are perfectly fine with a chick letting you ram it in her ass in the back of her car after a first date lol. you can't have it both ways. you want your girl to be naughy enough to come over your house with whip cream and ice and a fan and tell you to get naked in the bed room i'm going to show you how i can use all this at once lol, but when the girl is doing something that is.. nauhgy or bad that benefits just HER like smoking a bowl with some friends, she's a bad girl with low morals. if you aren't going to let a girl live a little.. agt all.. you are going to unqualify just about every girl you know. Oh, i see, it's only good when it benefits YOU lol.
